raul Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 http://www.espn.com/wwe/ now, they said they would cover non-wwe also, but so far it's just wwe. also annoying that it's named 'wwe' but whatever. wrestling is real again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Log Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 Or is it just that other sports are more fake now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 Or is it just that other sports are more fake now? Bingo. Well, it has always been fake, but, yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyin' Brian Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 I wonder if ESPN would be interested in getting back in the wrestling game and having a program again like the AWA/GWF shows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidebottom Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 I wonder if ESPN would be interested in getting back in the wrestling game and having a program again like the AWA/GWF shows? Did ESPN Classics carry Herb's UWF at one point or am imagining that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 I wonder if ESPN would be interested in getting back in the wrestling game and having a program again like the AWA/GWF shows? Did ESPN Classics carry Herb's UWF at one point or am imagining that? Yes, I want to say they also briefly ran that weird AWF group that had rounds like World of Sport. Also the worst part of this will be endless Dave Meltzer rants on how ESPN isn't treating wrestling like a sport and how that's such a black eye to their journalistic cred (when in reality that ship sailed when they became official PR departments for the sports they cover). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRH Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 AWF was never on ESPN. AFAIK, the only wrestling they carried were AWA, WCCW, USWA Dallas,Abrams UWF, and GWF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 Huh. My brain was convinced they were on ESPN but a quick check shows they were in fact syndicated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Childs Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 I wonder if ESPN would be interested in getting back in the wrestling game and having a program again like the AWA/GWF shows? Did ESPN Classics carry Herb's UWF at one point or am imagining that? Yes, I want to say they also briefly ran that weird AWF group that had rounds like World of Sport. Also the worst part of this will be endless Dave Meltzer rants on how ESPN isn't treating wrestling like a sport and how that's such a black eye to their journalistic cred (when in reality that ship sailed when they became official PR departments for the sports they cover). ESPN does plenty of good journalism on the sports they broadcast. On the other hand, they've demonstrated neither the ability nor the inclination to do good journalism on wrestling. I'm not even sure they know what that would look like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 ESPN is widely mocked in most places for being the NFL's power bottom in their relationship, and they act like sports they don't have a contract to carry don't even exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Enthusiast Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 Every network is the NFL's power bottom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 True, but it really exposes how in-the-bubble Dave gets when he gets Aspberger's level hung up on ESPN not treating WWE with journalistic integrity when in reality they're just more open about WWE stuff being a paid ad buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Childs Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 The mistake people make in assessing ESPN is that they view it as one, unified thing. It's actually a sprawling, messy beast of a company. So you have some arms, like Outside The Lines and the Magazine, doing quality, nuanced journalism on the leagues ESPN broadcasts. And you have other arms taking a more compromised approach. But reducing it to "ESPN has no journalistic integrity" is bullshit. Dave is absolutely right to say they have not lived up to their standards with other sports in covering wrestling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 The problem is that things like OTL and the magazine get a fraction of the push from the company that the afternoon Shouty Head Shows get. Plus you have ESPN Radio where they replace real journalists like SVP with meatheads like Danny Kannell who just aren't sold on head trauma being serious issue, and anyone who thinks so is part of the War on Football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZThomas Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 If I were Hunter,I try to get NXT on ESPN since its looked at as a way more serious Program than the other WWE brands and they are based out of Orlando. If he kepts it separate from Raw and Smackdown and kept a more sports like feel he can kinda get away from the WWE stigma and build a broader fan base that are sports fans exclusively that wouldnt mind giving wrestling a chance again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 The mistake people make in assessing ESPN is that they view it as one, unified thing. It's actually a sprawling, messy beast of a company. So you have some arms, like Outside The Lines and the Magazine, doing quality, nuanced journalism on the leagues ESPN broadcasts. And you have other arms taking a more compromised approach. But reducing it to "ESPN has no journalistic integrity" is bullshit. Dave is absolutely right to say they have not lived up to their standards with other sports in covering wrestling. ESPN has the same problem that Fox News, CNN, etc. have. They present news and they present opinion shows and the line is often blurred between which is which. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjh Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 The mistake people make in assessing ESPN is that they view it as one, unified thing. It's actually a sprawling, messy beast of a company. So you have some arms, like Outside The Lines and the Magazine, doing quality, nuanced journalism on the leagues ESPN broadcasts. And you have other arms taking a more compromised approach. But reducing it to "ESPN has no journalistic integrity" is bullshit. Dave is absolutely right to say they have not lived up to their standards with other sports in covering wrestling. It was inevitable that ESPN would take a compromised approach with WWE because none of their real journalists would take it seriously, plus they employ a couple of personalities who used WWE as a springboard to success outside the company. The media as a whole has overall always done a very poor job of wrestling coverage whenever they've deemed it worth their effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeg Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 Let's be honest it's ESPN. ESPN is one step up from tmz when it comes to journalistic integrity. They've spent the past 2 days doing nothing but fantasy football coverage. It's basically been a 48 hour informercal for their fantasy football app. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cross Face Chicken Wing Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 The last thing ESPN cares about in its wrestling coverage is journalistic integrity because 99 percent of its viewers could care less about wrestling being covered journalistically. Wrestling headlines generate clicks. Lots of them. That's why ESPN "covers" wrestling now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raul Posted August 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 new developments. espn is handing out star ratings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 "This is awesome". Pro-wrestling as artistic skating. Mike Oles was right !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 I will give them credit for have details in these star ratings. The actual rating of the matches leave a little to be desired (Cena vs Styles 5 stars ) but oh well. Love to poll the people running this section asking if they ever heard of TNA, Ring of Honor, or even New Japan Pro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 The CMLL/ROH/NJPW working arrangement announced last week seems like something that could have potentially been mentioned. I guess this week you wonder how they report on this stuff without focusing heavily on the wellness policy stuff or maybe on Orton being opened up so severely, which did make Deadspin and other places, I imagine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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