Stiva Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 Pretty big night of Raw last night with the Bailey title win and Owens turning on Jericho. Does Charlotte do the usual thing of dropping the belt on TV and then gaining it back on PPV? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedEagle Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 I was afraid it would be a long night after the opening handicap match and related antics. But it ended up a strong night both creatively and in the ring, with Owens/Jericho a great climax to their angle and and the women's title match. I didn't expect the split until Fastlane or the next night, so this had the surprise factor going for it as well the execution and violence while also drawing it out over the course of the angle. Curious to see how they integrate it into the next PPV but I'm much more invested in their match at Mania than I was 24 hours ago. Charlotte's offense working the back & neck is awesome. Just plays a terrific heel who makes great use of her size advantage over the rest of the division both visually as well as in the style she works. Head & shoulders above any other heel on the roster. Thought they did a nice job teasing and building Bayley's comebacks while giving Charlotte probably 80% or more of the match. Sasha's save after Dana Brooke's interference was incredible predictable. And great. That was one of those moments when telegraphing a spot is absolutely for the best. Great moment to cap a good show. Easy **** match for me. They have worked themselves into a bit of a corner with Charlotte's PPV streak though. Unlike Undertaker, you can't exactly forget about this one most of the year. They need to find a way out sooner rather than later, but have built it up enough that you don't want to simply end it just to move on. But for whom and how do they set that up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 Charlotte could win by DQ and Bayley would retain. The PPV streak would not be broken, and they could set that at Wrestlemania. Also, Mark Henry vs Braun Strowman was one of my highlights yesterday. Can't wait for Strowman vs Big Show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 Charlotte is winning at the PPV. Sasha is turning on her. MAYBE they break the PPV streak at Mania but I doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 The Owens/Jericho angle was incredible. I think their match may have the most heat out of any at mania. I know a lot of people have been down on Jericho during this run but the guy just knows how to get stuff over. Just an awesome, awesome segment. People will be talking about it for a long time And there is always the possibility Stephanie reverses the decision in the main event next week because of Sasha's interference. If they are going the Bryan route with Bayley I could def. see that happening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clintthecrippler Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 I saw a couple other people thinking the same thing, but the way the main event played out last night, my mind immediately jumped to a scenario where Bayley wins at the next PPV, celebrates that she broke the PPV streak the next night on RAW, Sasha gets resentful that Bayley did what she couldn't do, and turns on Bayley, leading into a triple threat at Wrestlemania. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricR Posted February 15, 2017 Report Share Posted February 15, 2017 Henry/Braun was so awesome. And the main event really hooked me by the end. Even Zayn/Rusev was quite good, though I thought Zayn's comeback was a little convenient. This was probably the overall strongest Raw in months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...TG Posted February 15, 2017 Report Share Posted February 15, 2017 The Smackdown main event was pretty damn great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted February 15, 2017 Report Share Posted February 15, 2017 RAW fucking ruled. It's so fucking weird that I'm reading shit in other corners of the internet where dummies are trying so hard to find things to argue about or things to shit on with this show. One deal has turned into a big smark circle jerk shitting on Enzo. 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMKK Posted February 15, 2017 Report Share Posted February 15, 2017 RAW fucking ruled. It's so fucking weird that I'm reading shit in other corners of the internet where dummies are trying so hard to find things to argue about or things to shit on with this show. One deal has turned into a big smark circle jerk shitting on Enzo. I mean, he is fucking terrible but his match was like 2 minutes so it hardly detracted from an overall good show Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badlittlekitten Posted February 15, 2017 Report Share Posted February 15, 2017 Yeah, Raw was fantastic this week, best in show ages and that's saying a lot cos there's been some gudduns lately. The Festival of Friendship was BEAUTIFUL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted February 15, 2017 Report Share Posted February 15, 2017 Poor Enzo is really the worst victim of the "Vince hates managers" edict. His best use would be as a guido Jimmy Hart and be the annoying pipsqueak manager who the babyface can get a big pop from beating up, but instead we're subjected to him trying to be a full time wrestler instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted February 15, 2017 Report Share Posted February 15, 2017 Enzo being an awful, awful wrestler isn't exactly the worst part. What I find way worse it how people cheer for him when in every single storyline he's involved, he's the least likeable guy. He's just an asshole of a character, I cannot comprehend how he's a face. But of course, this episode was really, REALLY good. So was SD's, but that's almost a given. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveJRogers Posted February 15, 2017 Report Share Posted February 15, 2017 Enzo being an awful, awful wrestler isn't exactly the worst part. What I find way worse it how people cheer for him when in every single storyline he's involved, he's the least likeable guy. He's just an asshole of a character, I cannot comprehend how he's a face. But of course, this episode was really, REALLY good. So was SD's, but that's almost a given. Same reason Road Dogg worked once he and Billy Gunn started the New Age Outlaws. Fans love good sing-a-longs during openings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...TG Posted February 15, 2017 Report Share Posted February 15, 2017 Enzo being an awful, awful wrestler isn't exactly the worst part. What I find way worse it how people cheer for him when in every single storyline he's involved, he's the least likeable guy. He's just an asshole of a character, I cannot comprehend how he's a face. Well hell, so was the Rock. And it's not like Stone Cold was a saint of a TV character all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted February 15, 2017 Report Share Posted February 15, 2017 Charisma goes a long way, and the Rock (character) was a heel first before the fans basically turned him since it's near impossible to hate the guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveJRogers Posted February 15, 2017 Report Share Posted February 15, 2017 Charisma goes a long way, and the Rock (character) was a heel first before the fans basically turned him since it's near impossible to hate the guy. Ditto Stone Cold. Another factor is that neither character changed when it came time to turn babyface. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDuke Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 I actually like Enzo. He is a different character than I am used to seeing lately, and it is interesting how they book him and Big Cass as babyfaces when it seems like they should obviously be heels. I find their whole persona thing a lot of fun and I enjoy the crowd reactions they get. Maybe they should be moved to Smackdown to try to make the tag scene more interesting there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyPulis'Cap Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 Going in, I wasn't sure what the Festival of Friendship was going to entail but it ended up being an awesome segment. They managed to get some good comedy in at the beginning before the serious part and the Owens beatdown and I really enjoyed it. Jericho was fantastic at conveying that Simpsons 'and this is the exact moment when his heart breaks' moment when he realises whats about to happen. The Charlotte/Bayley match was also terrific. I'm praying they don't do the switch the belt straight back to Charlotte moment at Fastlane as it feels like we've been there done that. I know some were upset that Bayley's moment came on RAW rather than at Wrestlemania, but if they have her win again there then that means they can still play that up as a big celebration even though she would already have the title going in. In the network era where people aren't paying for individual shows would be more than happy with a kop out finish at Fastlane to get us there, where neither Bayley loses the title straight back or Charlotte loses her record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chief Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 I like Enzo but the best use of him would be as a brawler. When he goes out there and tries to do the same head-scissors and dives matches everyone else does, just.....no. This is a company problem in general, WWE has a distinct lack of brawlers. It would be refreshing if they had a few punch and kick guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stro Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 Lol at the idea of Enzo beating someone up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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