sek69 Posted December 25, 2018 Report Share Posted December 25, 2018 Interesting that they would decide a pre taped Christmas Eve show was the best time to announce they are creating Women's tag titles, but at least it's a thing that happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fakeplastictrees Posted December 25, 2018 Report Share Posted December 25, 2018 WWE Christmas shows, for the most part, are lame duck shows. I can understand them using this time to add some buzz to the product going into the new year. Despite all the talk from last week about 'listening to the fans', its weird WWE rewarded the fans ,who sat in the arena for five hours, with a Baron Corbin vs. Seth Rollins main event. Lio getting egg nog'd was awesome and Lashley still, more than ever, needs to have Lex Luger's WCW 2000 theme and entrance stat (minus the butt stuff). I avoided the Natalya vs. Rousey match for various reasons. Is it worth checking out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted December 25, 2018 Report Share Posted December 25, 2018 I actually heard online that it was worth checking out. Plus, we had Santa Vince. Can't be a bad thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirEdger Posted December 25, 2018 Report Share Posted December 25, 2018 13 hours ago, fakeplastictrees said: WWE Christmas shows, for the most part, are lame duck shows. I can understand them using this time to add some buzz to the product going into the new year. Despite all the talk from last week about 'listening to the fans', its weird WWE rewarded the fans ,who sat in the arena for five hours, with a Baron Corbin vs. Seth Rollins main event. Lio getting egg nog'd was awesome and Lashley still, more than ever, needs to have Lex Luger's WCW 2000 theme and entrance stat (minus the butt stuff). I avoided the Natalya vs. Rousey match for various reasons. Is it worth checking out? I haven't seen it but from what I read, as opposed to the usual meticulously planned Ronda match, this one was 100% called in the ring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alucard Posted December 25, 2018 Report Share Posted December 25, 2018 I really liked Ronda/Natalya, went about 15 mins with a fun story of Ronda being hesitant to beat on her friend while Natalya would capitalize on any opportunity of Ronda not pulling the trigger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted December 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2018 1 hour ago, SirEdger said: I haven't seen it but from what I read, as opposed to the usual meticulously planned Ronda match, this one was 100% called in the ring. Yeah, Dave mentioned that all the planning went to the women's gauntlet match that took place (last week but the same taping) and they had faith Nattie could go out there and wing it with her and have a good match since she's been the one doing most of Ronda's training. I always wondered, for all the stories of people being stretched and tortured in the Dungeon, Stu must have done a good job teaching match layout since everyone he had a hand in training ended up really good at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteF3 Posted December 25, 2018 Report Share Posted December 25, 2018 Stu was also credited with helping to lay out Bret and Owen's WM10 match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted December 26, 2018 Report Share Posted December 26, 2018 Oh man D-Bry versus the entire 205 live roster is going to be freakin' great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted December 26, 2018 Report Share Posted December 26, 2018 Holy shit AJ lays out Vince! Are they writing Vince out already or is this building to something?! Interested here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...TG Posted December 26, 2018 Report Share Posted December 26, 2018 That entire segment, climaxing with Vince getting off on AJ's punch, was one of the best things they've done all year. His faults are legion but the man is an all-time great television performer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted December 26, 2018 Report Share Posted December 26, 2018 First reaction is this might be building to AJ v Hunter at Mania Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted December 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2018 Will Hunter even be ready for Mania? Not sure of the healing time for a torn pec on a 40 something year old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMJ Posted December 26, 2018 Report Share Posted December 26, 2018 Not sure what to make of that segment. Seems like swimming against the tide to turn AJ, especially when Bryan's killing it in the role and it also hasn't been too long since Nakamura turned (and you still got Joe quietly doing well). Seriously, I'm not against dual brand PPVs, but aside from whatever Rousey's doing, I don't think there's a single feud on RAW that I'd like to see represented on a PPV more than the least interesting feud on SD. Like, I'd more interested in a Naomi/Asuka rematch than whatever cockamamie gimmick match they'd do with Rollins/Ambrose or Balor/whoever if there was PPV on Sunday. So, then, if its not meant to turn AJ, it seems like its meant to "darken" him - but for what? HHH? Hard pass. Taker? Having the McMahons involved sounds like the most convoluted route to get there possible. Maybe Vince will exact revenge by making AJ #1 in the Rumble? And he'll win it and then, to prove to Vince he's got the "animal" instinct, he'll challenge Brock? That scenario works for me but it just seems ludicrously far-fetched. Then again, realistically, when they lost Reigns and looked at the numbers, was AJ the #2 merch seller? Or was it Rollins? Or someone else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alucard Posted December 26, 2018 Report Share Posted December 26, 2018 I was thinking AJ was heading towards the Viper at Mania as that's still a relatively fresh match Triple H (if not injured) I thought was going for Batista if available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadaveri Posted December 26, 2018 Report Share Posted December 26, 2018 On merchandise sales, this is what Dave Meltzer reported in April this year: Quote Regarding merchandise sales, Cena is still far and away No. 1. Styles and Reigns right now duel for the No. 2 spot, so Styles is probably making a ton of money right now. The New Day are also very strong performers in that regard, and guys like Balor, Rollins and Strowman also do very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted December 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2018 Holy crap Rusev vs Nak was great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artDDP Posted December 26, 2018 Report Share Posted December 26, 2018 The Ronda-Natty match was a lot of fun live and the crowd--those that stuck around--were into it despite being worn out by an hour-long women's gauntlet earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artDDP Posted December 30, 2018 Report Share Posted December 30, 2018 On 12/25/2018 at 8:39 PM, sek69 said: Holy crap Rusev vs Nak was great. While I loved the match, it was here where I finally got really angry with the overdone "1-2-kick out--exasperated face" sequence everyone must do after every single near fall now. It's as overdone as every NXT wrestler having to position themselves directly in front of the hard camera before hitting their finisher and getting the win. If you don't know what I mean, it's the "I can't believe s/he kicked out!" face everyone makes while the camera zooms in tight after every "dramatic" moment in a big match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alucard Posted January 1, 2019 Report Share Posted January 1, 2019 On 12/30/2018 at 12:42 AM, artDDP said: While I loved the match, it was here where I finally got really angry with the overdone "1-2-kick out--exasperated face" sequence everyone must do after every single near fall now. It's as overdone as every NXT wrestler having to position themselves directly in front of the hard camera before hitting their finisher and getting the win. If you don't know what I mean, it's the "I can't believe s/he kicked out!" face everyone makes while the camera zooms in tight after every "dramatic" moment in a big match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted January 1, 2019 Report Share Posted January 1, 2019 Sadly, you kinda see that everywhere. Just saw it on MLW and iMPACT too. Yet another awful WWEism that has spread out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted January 1, 2019 Report Share Posted January 1, 2019 I'm pretty sure it became a thing after the HBK/Undertaker match at WM25. It worked in that match because Shawn kicking out of the tombstone was a genuinely shocking moment that warranted a reaction of stunned disbelief. But of course WWE couldn't leave well enough alone and had to turn it into yet another cliched big match spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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