The Thread Killer Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 4 hours ago, El-P said: I really don't give a flying fuck about MMA, but I did watch the Dark Side of the Cage episodes about PRIDE and Ronda Rousey. The PRIDE ones are fascinating. Remember the old "debate" about "Is PRIDE pro-wrestling ?". Well, of course not. But never has a legit MMA promotion was as much linked to pro-wrestling as PRIDE was. Including in term of being a shady-as-fuck company. The fixed Takada matches are evoked, although it's just a blip on the radar. The biggest focus is on the ridiculously dirty yakuza involvements. Also, watching old decrepit Helio Gracie at ringside, it's always a good time to remind people that this guy was actually linked to a fascist Brazilian movement in the 30's. There goes the "great" Gracie family. I actually watched the episodes about Kimbo Slice and Evan Tanner, and skipped the other ones. I was a huge PRIDE FC fan in real time when it was a thing, and had read a couple of books about all the behind the scenes shenanigans, so I didn't bother checking out that episode. It's kind of fascinating to consider that both the UFC and PRIDE were launched as a showcase to demonstrate how Gracie Jiu-Jitsu is supposedly the superior martial art, and in the case of PRIDE, the whole thing got exposed thanks to Sakuraba of all people. 4 hours ago, El-P said: I have no idea how anyone even tolerates the sigh of Dana White these days, unless you're, ya know... An MMA fan? I have no love for Dana White, believe me...but if you're a fight fan and want to watch elite level MMA, you pretty much have to put up with Dana White. For example, this very weekend is Pereira vs. Ankalaev. I'm not missing that fight, just because Dana White is a jerk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 Well, that's why a monopoly is always bad. The one thing I got from the Pride episodes, is that it was a fucking circus. So, the pro-wrestling show comes back in three weeks with this, well, not too exciting line-up on paper. Wonder what episode is gonna kick-start it as they usually want to start with a bang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Thread Killer Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 8 minutes ago, El-P said: Well, that's why a monopoly is always bad. The one thing I got from the Pride episodes, is that it was a fucking circus. So, the pro-wrestling show comes back in three weeks with this, well, not too exciting line-up on paper. Wonder what episode is gonna kick-start it as they usually want to start with a bang. I agree with you. MMA was so much better for the fans and especially for the fighters, when competition was still possible. There is a league called the PFL right now that is trying to compete with the UFC but they don’t have international TV, and they seem to be run by people who don’t know what they are doing. Sadly, I think the first Dark Side of the Ring episode will be the Foley/HITC one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 3 hours ago, The Thread Killer said: I agree with you. MMA was so much better for the fans and especially for the fighters, when competition was still possible. It was quite interesting to me that Ronda actually became a champion first in StrikeForce, since the UFC would not have women fighters. Then UFC just bought the competition, which really must have sucked like WWF buying WCW, and Dana just handed Ronda a UFC Women Champion belt. You can't get more pro-wrestling than this (and crappy pro-wrestling to boot) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyonthewall2983 Posted 14 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 14 hours ago Aprops of the MMA talk, I highly recommend this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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