Loss Posted August 2, 2009 Author Report Posted August 2, 2009 Even if they did say that, I don't know that that would hold up in court. And how was Chuck Austin overpaid?
sek69 Posted August 2, 2009 Report Posted August 2, 2009 Didn't the injury happen because he took the bump wrong in an attempt to do a dramatic oversell? I was honestly surprised that they ended up paying him anything since it wasn't anyone's fault but his really. I guess they would have covered his medical expense just as a PR move, but I was shocked he got $2 million or whatever it was.
Bix Posted August 2, 2009 Report Posted August 2, 2009 For what it's worth, the award was reduced by a lot, but I forget how much. He was more at fault that he was generally given credit for, though. He was pretty much untrained (and was cocky enough to have trainees of his own) and shouldn't have been there, plus there was no reason for him to try to take Rocker Dropper any way other than face first. The Austin fallout led to the WWF making sure the job guys were at least associated with reputable schools in some form (though some still through the cracks like the Hardys who just hooked up w/ Italian Stallion).
Guest Kenta Batista Posted August 2, 2009 Report Posted August 2, 2009 Even if they did say that, I don't know that that would hold up in court. And how was Chuck Austin overpaid? I read the numbers surpassed 20 million, perhaps I misread. If that's not true then I recant my statement. Also wasn't there a story about him never have taking the move before and had no real concept of the mechanics involved until showtime.
kjh Posted August 2, 2009 Report Posted August 2, 2009 Did anyone other than Marty Jannetty regularly use the move during that period?
Bix Posted August 2, 2009 Report Posted August 2, 2009 No, but he used it in just about every TV match.
Isaacduke Posted August 2, 2009 Report Posted August 2, 2009 It's WON HOF time again, and I was wondering if anyone knows when the ballots go out, and when the inductees are announced?
kjh Posted August 3, 2009 Report Posted August 3, 2009 The ballots are already out, as Steve Yohe posted the ballot sent him on tOA and WrestlingClassics. I'll start a new thread elsewhere. Most interesting is that due to the Big Daddy backlash Dave has put all of the major UK stars on the ballot for the first time (Big Daddy, Kendo Nagasaki, Mick McManus, Jackie Pallo and Mark "Rollerball" Rocco). I don't like their chances, given that Finlay got no support last year.
khawk20 Posted August 3, 2009 Report Posted August 3, 2009 The ballots are already out, as Steve Yohe posted the ballot sent him on tOA and WrestlingClassics. I'll start a new thread elsewhere. Most interesting is that due to the Big Daddy backlash Dave has put all of the major UK stars on the ballot for the first time (Big Daddy, Kendo Nagasaki, Mick McManus, Jackie Pallo and Mark "Rollerball" Rocco). I don't like their chances, given that Finlay got no support last year. The ballot for nagasaki might be interesting...I wonder how many voters will even know he's a seperate performer from the Nagasaki that graced the U.S. as a Ninja-type for so many years? Will he be given even less consideration on first glance from the voters because of it? Will any UK stars get enough votes that anyone would even notice that?
Strummer Posted August 3, 2009 Report Posted August 3, 2009 For what it's worth, the award was reduced by a lot, but I forget how much. He was more at fault that he was generally given credit for, though. He was pretty much untrained (and was cocky enough to have trainees of his own) and shouldn't have been there, plus there was no reason for him to try to take Rocker Dropper any way other than face first. The Austin fallout led to the WWF making sure the job guys were at least associated with reputable schools in some form (though some still through the cracks like the Hardys who just hooked up w/ Italian Stallion). Don't know if I mentioned this here before but I went to elementary school with a kid whose father did jobs at the Poughkeepsie TV tapings in the early/mid 80s and he was barely trained to work (if at all). So yes the WWF was very lenient (cheap/careless) in who they hired as jobbers
Cox Posted August 3, 2009 Report Posted August 3, 2009 Are the UK wrestlers on the ballot considered in their own "region," or is Dave lumping them into the US/Canada region? If they are considered their own region, some of these guys might have a chance, but if they are considered US/Canada (which would be insane) they have no hope.
jdw Posted August 3, 2009 Report Posted August 3, 2009 Are the UK wrestlers on the ballot considered in their own "region," or is Dave lumping them into the US/Canada region? If they are considered their own region, some of these guys might have a chance, but if they are considered US/Canada (which would be insane) they have no hope. "Anyone who receives mention on 60% of the ballots from their geographic region (broken down as United States & Canada; Mexico; Japan; or Europe) will be added to the Hall of Fame this year." -Dave's note They appear to be Europe. John
Cox Posted August 3, 2009 Report Posted August 3, 2009 Does this mean he's going to put Finlay back on the ballot? It really doesn't seem fair for him to be considered a US wrestler because of his midcard WCW and WWE runs, although I guess it doesn't make anymore sense for Konnan to be considered a US wrestler when literally all of his credentials are for what he did in Mexico.
jdw Posted August 3, 2009 Report Posted August 3, 2009 Does this mean he's going to put Finlay back on the ballot? It really doesn't seem fair for him to be considered a US wrestler because of his midcard WCW and WWE runs, although I guess it doesn't make anymore sense for Konnan to be considered a US wrestler when literally all of his credentials are for what he did in Mexico. My recollection is that Dave has a certain number of years that he waits before putting someone back on. I forget how many. But it's a period, and there needs to a bit of a groundswell/request to put the person back on. John
Cox Posted August 3, 2009 Report Posted August 3, 2009 Thanks John - that's kind of a lousy way to handle it for Finlay, though. He probably shouldn't have even bothered being listed on the ballot in the US/Canada region, because he doesn't have anything close to credentials to deserve induction, even if he's always been an awesome worker.
jdw Posted August 3, 2009 Report Posted August 3, 2009 Finlay may be screwed because he's worked so long in the US. Someone would have to ask Dave if he'll be US region or Euro region if he gets back on the ballot. Tweeners are always a pain in the rear. Dragon was always hard to slot. John
CodySave Posted August 4, 2009 Report Posted August 4, 2009 Regarding John Cena and The Miz on RAW tonight: Jesus christ...they announce a lumberjack match tonight to prevent The Miz from "running and hiding" from John Cena any longer. I'm sorry, but in the three months that The Miz has been feuding with Cena, where in the hell has there been one instance where he's ran and hid from Cena? Well, aside from last week's "Beat the Clock" match, where Miz let it be known he just had to last 6:49 with Cena to prevent him from getting a title shot. Hell, he's done the total opposite of running due to his calling Cena out week in and week out a couple months back. How in the hell can the Smackdown writing be SOOOO much better than the RAW writing right now? It's shockingly ridiculous how much better one program is right now than the other program presented by the same company. I watched both last week's Superstars and Smackdown today and I was floored by how great those three hours of WWE programming were. So much fun to watch! EDIT: Given the events at the end of the show, Piven setting up a Lumberjack match makes more sense, but a Jeremy Piven heel turn to round out the show? Really?
Indikator Posted August 4, 2009 Report Posted August 4, 2009 Pantera - Walk is in my playlist right now. So I'm wondering how many fans today know that this was RVDs theme at one point and a mighty fine entrance theme, too.
kjh Posted August 4, 2009 Report Posted August 4, 2009 It really doesn't seem fair for him to be considered a US wrestler because of his midcard WCW and WWE runs, although I guess it doesn't make anymore sense for Konnan to be considered a US wrestler when literally all of his credentials are for what he did in Mexico. Konnan's considered as a Mexican wrestler for the Observer Hall of Fame. The problem with Finlay is he may pick up some votes mainly for his US accomplishments, which is unfair to the European wrestlers who had no mainstream American exposure.
Marty Posted August 4, 2009 Report Posted August 4, 2009 Fuck, I feel bad for Miz. Being banned from this would suck: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summerfest
Guest culotron Posted August 7, 2009 Report Posted August 7, 2009 How is being banned from a Bon Jovi concert a bad thing?
Resident Evil Posted August 7, 2009 Report Posted August 7, 2009 How is being banned from a Bon Jovi concert a bad thing? Why wouldn't someone want to go to a Bon Jovi concert? The guy has hit after hit after hit. Easily one of my favourite singers ever. Now about Finlay, it is his WWE run that has turned so many heads on to the fact that this guy can work. His WWE run destroyed his WCW run in terms of match quality and it was this that made more people believers in Finlay.
NitroFan Posted August 8, 2009 Report Posted August 8, 2009 As far as buisness goes, how does the Bundy programme compare to Hogan's other big fueds?
Strummer Posted August 10, 2009 Report Posted August 10, 2009 I'm not one to point out homoeroticism in wrestling but Hogan ripping off Sid's referee shirt at Summerslam 91 and staring in amazment at his chest post match just cannot go unnoticed
sek69 Posted August 11, 2009 Report Posted August 11, 2009 So I don't get why would you have Sgt. Slaughter guest host RAW when it's in Canada? None of the current fanbase has any recognition of him as a heel unless they watch the Mid Atlantic stuff on WWE On Demand.
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