Boondocks Kernoodle Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 The point was that there's no proof he's ever done that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingus Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 Since when is vague rumor and hearsay not good enough to condemn a wrestler for being a bad person? You could also say there's an equal lack of proof of Triple H ever using bodybuilding hormones of any kind. Anyway, it's not like there haven't been stories about the King floating around out there. Lawler's ephebophilia (not the exact same thing as pedophilia, look it up) has become so widely acknowledged within the industry that they've repeatedly made jokes about it on national television. He's hardly the only person within the industry to have unusual sexual preferences of some kind or another, but the combination of the rape charges and his parade of much younger wives and girlfriends have certainly helped cement that reputation both backstage and online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boondocks Kernoodle Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 Since when is vague rumor and hearsay not good enough to condemn a wrestler for being a bad person? You could also say there's an equal lack of proof of Triple H ever using bodybuilding hormones of any kind. No, the "proof" Re: HHH comes from looking at him and knowing the natural limitations of steroid-free bodybuilding. Anyway, it's not like there haven't been stories about the King floating around out there. Lawler's ephebophilia (not the exact same thing as pedophilia, look it up) has become so widely acknowledged within the industry that they've repeatedly made jokes about it on national television. He's hardly the only person within the industry to have unusual sexual preferences of some kind or another, but the combination of the rape charges and his parade of much younger wives and girlfriends have certainly helped cement that reputation both backstage and online.Dating women in their twenties doesn't make one an ephebophile. It is kind of lame and midlife-crisis-ey, but there's nothing wrong with it. Only times I ever remember a joke about it on national TV was a Paul Heyman comment during the ECW invasion of '97. (The Doug Gilbert thing wasn't national.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Evil Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 The point was that there's no proof he's ever done that. And my point is that common sense tells one to be cautious around Lawler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Schneider Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 I would rather have Lawler baby sit my little cousins, then have you babysit them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boondocks Kernoodle Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 I would rather have Lawler baby sit my little cousins, then have you babysit themSo you're saying you want Lawler and WP to babysit them in successive order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Evil Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 I would rather have Lawler baby sit my little cousins, then have you babysit them This is pure trolling. If you want to start something because of whatever than take it to pm or something because I'm not trolling with you or anyone today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Evans Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 The point was that there's no proof he's ever done that. And my point is that common sense tells one to be cautious around Lawler. What wrestler wouldn't you be cautious around? Especially in this post Benoit world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingus Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 Dating women in their twenties doesn't make one an ephebophile. It is kind of lame and midlife-crisis-ey, but there's nothing wrong with it. Only times I ever remember a joke about it on national TV was a Paul Heyman comment during the ECW invasion of '97. (The Doug Gilbert thing wasn't national.)They've done it countless times on commentary. JR has made some comments about various young divas being "too old" for the King on multiple occasions. One specific example I remember is from that WWE/ECW crossover show they did on a Wednesday night before ONS2, when Tazz made a crack or two about Lawler scouting out new girlfriends at the local high school. The only other person I can recall getting this kind of consistent mocking of their sexuality in snide asides is Pat Patterson, and, well, all those gay-bashing jokes Ross kept hitting on him did have that kernel of truth of course. I'm aware that just random throwaway mutterings on commentary don't represent any kind of evidence, but there's been more than enough hearsay on other fronts to at least make one suspicious. IIRC, Miss Kitty might've been underage when they first hooked up. And for what it's worth, I've heard a couple vague stories from a few old Memphis guys who talked about Lawler's preference for young meat. Nothing I'd care to repeat here since the sources weren't always credible and the tales ventured into libel territory, but the rumors of that sort of thing involving Jerry have been around for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 I'd imagine that all the jokes are told BECAUSE he was not guilty of that charge added to the fact he likes to bang young hot chicks. If the worst thing you can say about an old guy is that he bangs girls in their early twenties... And the weird "I'm a fan of Calgary and hate Memphis" thing that's going on here is really far more creepy than Lawler banging chicks half his age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomk Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 The only other person I can recall getting this kind of consistent mocking of their sexuality in snide asides is Pat Patterson, and, well, all those gay-bashing jokes Ross kept hitting on him did have that kernel of truth of course. Lots of regular sexualy snide asides were also aimed at Ross. Heyman, and Cornette as being homosexuals on commentary as well. I'm trying to remember which face Flair always talked about as having hard time swallowing his nut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Morris Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 I wsa going to toss this into the WO columnists thread, but it's Alvarez with stuff in the update. Raw was down to a 3.16 this week from last week's 3.33 so hopefully someone doesn't freak out and decide good, long wrestling matches are a bad idea. Yes, because having good, long wrestling matches is more important than having quality storylines that people enjoy, even if the latter is what really lends itself to better ratings for wrestling shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted December 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 In Bryan's defense, I think what he is saying is that he hopes WWE doesn't interpret the ratings as fans being actively turned away by good wrestling. But Bryan is weird and almost always reads too much into everything, so who knows. He actually thought originally that WWE released him for being the weak link in a tag with Jericho against HHH and Michaels if I recall. That said, I think Dave and Bryan pay far more attention and do far more analysis of the ratings than WWE does, and I don't see them freaking out over a 0.17 drop. ETA: By "him", I meant Lance Cade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Evil Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 Speaking of very good matches, I caught the end of Jericho vs Punk which was well very good. I'm glad that the WWE brought in Punk. The first WWE match I've watched in about six months so it brought a smile to my face to see that the Ontario crowd still rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 Not to rehash the Lawler thing, but I thought it was common knowledge that Uncle Jerry liked the not-quite-legal girls but gets away with it because he's basically Jesus Christ in Memphis. Like, the one who sued him, I seem to recall at the time that the story was she recanted because Lawler (or his representatives) pretty much told her there's no way anyone in Memphis would convict the "King". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted December 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 That's probably true to a certain extent, although he couldn't win the mayorship when he tried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerpride Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 I remember in the WON, Meltzer has said that King is known for being teflon, since he gets out of everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boondocks Kernoodle Posted December 25, 2008 Report Share Posted December 25, 2008 Here's something I've always wondered: What did 2 Cold Scorpio do before coming to WCW? Apparently he was wrestling for seven years before that, but I've been unable to find out where. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Evans Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 Wrestled in Mexico as Black Scorpio and I think Japan too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 Can someone post that pic of the Genius looking at Perfect's Package with glee? I can't find it and I want to show it to someone who doesn't remember that it happened. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eduardo Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohtani's jacket Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 I'm not sure that the sightline matches, but nevertheless he's a happy fella. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 Ha, thanks, dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted December 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 I'm pretty bored with all the "Will he or won't he?" talk with Christian and WWE. Just show up on TV or don't, but enough with the speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Evans Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 Just wait till Danielson's contract is up with ROH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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