Is the empire crumbling before our eyes?

[ragemaster]

34 minutes ago, Embrodak said:

Dude, please just shut the fuck up and let it go. The topic of the thread is whether the WWE has intrinsic problems that will undermine its seeming dominance, as well as a free form discussion of the various backstage happenings and dramas that may or may not be indicative of such, not whether your rants are being read charitably enough by the woke mob of PWO. Everybody understands your weird positions, you’re not converting anybody to them, and nobody gives a shit that the mods are censoring you. Go join the Jim Cornette Facebook group if you want to have weird Boomer arguments about whether the Auschwitz Museum is acting proportionally and in good faith. (No hate to Corny, for the record, but I cannot imagine a less attractive corner of the IWC than an official Facebook group for him started in 2023.)

Well its not a free form discussion, as you just told me to shut the fuck up.  This post by you is a rant, I've just tried to engage in conversation.   

Sigh, funny how we talking about the Auschwitz Museum and you tell me to shut up because you don't agree with my point of view. Which is fine, i don't care if you agree or not with me, nor have i said anything offensive or hateful in my posts.  

But not once has anyone tried to counter my points and have a proper conversation about them. 

You said something negative about the  Auschwitz Museum, um no i didn't i just pointed out their statement was overkill.

You defended Vicki  Guerrero and blamed her daughter, this never happened, i just said hold off on the pitch forks until the police or evidence is all out there to see.

The Mod sent me this 

And now someone reported you for the Drunk Sex comment.  " Do you want to delete it yourself or should I do it?"

All i was doing was making sure the context of what Vickie actually said was reported correctly. 

People rip on Dave Meltzer all the time on here for inaccurate news reporting.

My post on drunk sex was misread or understood or I could have Witten it better, but no-one asked me to clarify it. 

When I call some people snowflakes or far left, its because any view you don't like, you attack me, or put in complaints to get me removed. You very rarely want to talk about it, ether because you haven't got the skill set to do so. Or you so caught up in whats black and white, you forget they not the only two colours you can pick from. 

 

[NintendoLogic]

We're being sealioned, folks.

[ragemaster]

lol I'm sure everyone thinks they the sealion  

[Embrodak]

I said it was a free form discussion *of a specific thing*, dude. Telling you to shut up because you’ve turned the whole thread into a litigation of your badly-argued and mostly incoherent points, points that aren’t even relevant to this thread’s (admittedly sometimes loose) main focus, is *more* on topic than anything you’ve been talking about for pages now. You know we’re all far left because we told you your opinions are bad and aren’t particularly interested in a granular discussion of why; we know you’re conservative because you developed a persecution complex over something asinine in the course of like a day. Suck it up and move on. Go read Norman Finkelstein’s “The Holocaust Industry” if you want actually intelligent engagement with the political motivations and economic incentives that organizations like the Auschwitz Museum consciously and unconsciously operate from; this ain’t an example of it.

[ragemaster]

 

2 hours ago, Embrodak said:

I said it was a free form discussion *of a specific thing*, dude.

Dude, a specific thing, i was keeping on talking point on something which bought into this forum to discuss. So your talking out of your ass, everyone was talking about the Topic, you just didn't like my view on it. Which is more the insecurity of you than me. 

You basically saying you can talk about it, but only if you agree with the rest of us here.

2 hours ago, Embrodak said:

 You know we’re all far left because we told you your opinions are bad and aren’t particularly interested in a granular discussion of why; we know you’re conservative because you developed a persecution complex over something asinine in the course of like a day.

 No because you use far left tendencies, plus your posts to me are very bullying and not on any relevant topic .

2 hours ago, Embrodak said:

Go read Norman Finkelstein’s “The Holocaust Industry” if you want actually intelligent engagement with the political motivations and economic incentives that organizations like the Auschwitz Museum consciously and unconsciously operate from; this ain’t an example of it.

sigh once again, you only gaslighted yourself by reading my posts and not understanding what i actually said. 

Oh and in case you not noticed i'm only responding to posted aimed at me to try and clear up some points raised against me. This has been the case since Saturday, but you feel its ok to keep attacking me and my posts, but then tell me to shut up when i respond. 

I delete my last line, as probably too far 

[akira maeda]

He doesn't quit this guy.

[The Thread Killer]

This entire situation is making my brain cry. If I never hear the name of Vicki Guerrero again, I could die a happy man. And congratulations, you people have totally ruined the word “Auschwitz” for me. Please make it stop.

[ragemaster]

Guys you keep bring me up in posts and being rude and aggressive to me. When i reply, i'm the one who's not dropping it, or am the one being rude or unreasonable or not understanding why i should shut the fuck up.

I'm happy to stop talking about this subject, but please do me the curtsey of stop quoting me or bringing me back into dissuasion in this thread.

If you want to ask me anything, PM me about this issue and i talk to you there about it. 

I don't want to waste any more time on this thread than you do,

Thank you 

  

[Perfectly Straightedge]

I didn't see we had a ANOTHER PAGE of replies.

Give it a rest at this point my guy. Take a few days off the site and go enjoy the outdoors or whatever it is you enjoy at this point. 

In my advice "Take the L" and move on with your life.

[ragemaster]

1 minute ago, Perfectly Straightedge said:

Sigh...you really are living up to your username....

"Naw, let's not never mind. Ragemaster's new MAGA gimmick fucking sucks & if he keeps it up, just ban his dumb ass."

So the above is the message aimed at me, which i responded to, but you think i'm the one out of line.

[ragemaster]

Like i said PM me if you have an issue, 

1 minute ago, Perfectly Straightedge said:

I didn't see we had a ANOTHER PAGE of replies.

Give it a rest at this point my guy. Take a few days off the site and go enjoy the outdoors or whatever it is you enjoy at this point. 

In my advice "Take the L" and move on with your life.

You must have read my post about moving things to PM and leaving it out of this thread, but your first thought is to carry on the conversation. 

Because what you have to say is so important and must be shared with the group,

maybe you should take your own advice and not try to poke the bear with a stick for kicks and giggles.

But i hope your having a good day and enjoy the rest of it

 

[Perfectly Straightedge]

2 minutes ago, ragemaster said:

"Naw, let's not never mind. Ragemaster's new MAGA gimmick fucking sucks & if he keeps it up, just ban his dumb ass."

So the above is the message aimed at me, which i responded to, but you think i'm the one out of line.

So?

We are adults not school children. What's the point of name calling back? Like all it does is make you look bad. Like I said take the L and just move along with your life.

[ragemaster]

True, i didn't see your post telling him to pull it in too, must of missed it. Maybe aim your point at all the people involved and not just one of them. 

But thanks for the feedback

[BigBadMick]

Remember this sort of thing used to happen here all the time?

 

Those weren't the days.

[El-P]

Honestly, this kinda crap makes me miss shodate. I mean, almost. Him and his odd tastes...

[The Thread Killer]

21 minutes ago, El-P said:

Honestly, this kinda crap makes me miss shodate. I mean, almost. Him and his odd tastes...

Dude…come on. Don’t even say that name. I am afraid if you say it three times, he will suddenly appear.

[brockobama]

Personally I welcome messageboard drama like this. Healthier (in a sense) and more fun than the open cesspool that is the public forum of social media.

8 hours ago, Embrodak said:

On the topic of this thread, I have a weird feeling that wrestling is still operating on borrowed time, despite this Wrestlemania’s success and the sale.

Yeah I can't imagine this bubble existing too much longer without it popping. Either the TV revenue craters in another contract cycle or two or WWE burns their remaining fans bad enough (something that I think is fairly unlikely due to how diehard the people left these days are, but who knows what new/returning management does) that this whole thing just falls apart. The foundation has been crumbling for years, as detailed repeatedly throughout this thread. WWE's in a weird spot where they're not large and diverse enough a company to weather the storm of fundamental changes in how people consume media nor are they small enough to get by with a dedicated core fanbase like I imagine AEW will. I doubt the company will truly die off in our lifetime but I can't see it existing at this size for much longer.

But enough boring wrestling speculation, let's talk about whether tipsy hookups will get your house raided by the ATF by the end of the decade.

[C.S.]

5 hours ago, El-P said:

Honestly, this kinda crap makes me miss shodate. I mean, almost. Him and his odd tastes...

I'll admit his off-the-wall posts were a guilty pleasure of mine.

I don't remember him wading into political waters though - someone correct me if I'm wrong - so at least he kept it pro wrestling only.

[El-P]

10 hours ago, The Thread Killer said:

Dude…come on. Don’t even say that name. I am afraid if you say it three times, he will suddenly appear.

Vickie Guerrero. Vickie Guerrero. Vickie Guerrero.

(did I get something wrong here ?)

5 hours ago, C.S. said:

I don't remember him wading into political waters though - someone correct me if I'm wrong - so at least he kept it pro wrestling only.

He was a self professed anarchist. And he loved shoot-style. What's not to love ? You don't make them like this anymore. Buuuuuuuut he was unbearable. 

[The Thread Killer]

3 hours ago, El-P said:

Vickie Guerrero. Vickie Guerrero. Vickie Guerrero.

(did I get something wrong here ?)

He was a self professed anarchist. And he loved shoot-style. What's not to love ? You don't make them like this anymore. Buuuuuuuut he was unbearable. 

There is a horror movie called Candyman where if you look in the mirror and say his name three times, he shows up and starts killing everybody. (Which leads to the question of why anyone would ever do that, but that’s neither here nor there.) 

I was afraid if you said shodate three times, he’d suddenly appear and start posting his gibberish again. He was also one of those special people who managed to see political arguments where none were needed.

EDIT: Upon further examination it turns out you had to say his name 5 times, not 3.

[MoS]

I only knew of the Bloody Mary legend where she appears if you say her name in front of the mirror 3 times, so the last few posts have been like modern pop-culture classes for me. Thanks, brothers. 

[El-P]

I knew the Bettlejuice version.

The current pro-wrestling version would be Joe Hendry in IMPACT. "Say his name and he appears !"

[NintendoLogic]

4 hours ago, El-P said:

He was a self professed anarchist. And he loved shoot-style. What's not to love ? You don't make them like this anymore. Buuuuuuuut he was unbearable. 

He was also a supporter of Ulster loyalism. He opposed the IRA because he thought nationalism had no place in left-wing politics. Being so anarchist that you become a monarchist is certainly a choice.

[paul sosnowski]

Alright everyone.   This is over and done with.   No more personal attacks.   Don't bring up anyone's name unless they are currently still commenting

[El-P]

Is it a failed tentative at humour or he is being serious ?

I for one am glad he signed with WWE again. Not that there was any fear he would end up in AEW or something, but this gives me another reason not to care about this company.