strobogo Posted December 24, 2021 Report Share Posted December 24, 2021 NWA Chicago > New York > Southwest >>> LA. The stuff from LA sucks, imo. Just do not enjoy their group of guys that don't seem to make it out of that area as much, like Mr. Moto or Freddie Blassie or Baron Michele Leone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohtani's jacket Posted December 25, 2021 Report Share Posted December 25, 2021 I find LA much more entertaining than the other territories. Chicago is the best, objectively speaking, but LA is the most entertaining. Can't stand Buffalo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strobogo Posted December 25, 2021 Report Share Posted December 25, 2021 I'm baffled that a dude like Barone Leone was apparently a huge star. Dude is the shits. Would have been a comedy jobber in the 60s-80s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohtani's jacket Posted December 25, 2021 Report Share Posted December 25, 2021 I have a soft spot for the Baron. He does look a bit like Ron Jeremy though. I like the LA presentation a lot more than Chicago. I can't stand Russ Davis. I'll take Strongbow over him any day of the week. Plus LA has plenty of good workers like Lord James Blears, young Nick Bockwinkel, Enrique Torres, Leo Garibaldi, luchadores like Rita Romero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strobogo Posted December 25, 2021 Report Share Posted December 25, 2021 Oh man, I love Russ Davis. Quickly becoming one of my favorites of all time. Might even put him in my top three with Schiavone and Lance Russell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strobogo Posted December 25, 2021 Report Share Posted December 25, 2021 Lmao Ricki Starr out here doing ballet, Goldust spots, and Big E tier horny hips stuff in the 50s against a Nazi. At different points he appears to perform an oil check, at others he basically tea bags the dude before doing a backflip. Some of this would be pretty wild even today, let alone for sometime in the 50s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reel Posted February 3, 2022 Report Share Posted February 3, 2022 I've been putting some WWECW on in the background lately. I know a big part of Christian and Matt Hardy's cases for GWE are their title reigns here, and maybe it's just me, but these 'very good' tv matches they're both supposed to have on this show, I just don't see it. Like they both have plenty of good matches, but they're just good, not great, and especially not all-time great stuff. Especially Hardy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted February 3, 2022 Report Share Posted February 3, 2022 16 minutes ago, Reel said: I know a big part of Christian and Matt Hardy's cases for GWE are their title reigns here, and maybe it's just me, but these 'very good' tv matches they're both supposed to have on this show, I just don't see it. Like they both have plenty of good matches, but they're just good, not great, and especially not all-time great stuff. Same thing for Christian in TNA, which basically sparked the fact he was pushed in WWECW when he came back. He had a lot of very good stuff, but even against AJ Styles he never had those great defining matches (and TONS of people have had great matches with AJ in TNA, including Abyss). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadaveri Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 You're probably not far off in your assessment of the matches, it's more what you value. Volume/consistency vs. Peak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reel Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 I think it comes down to, for me anyway, the difference between a good TV match and a very good TV match, however you want to quantify that, just isn't that significant. So like, I'm in 2009, and Christian is having the best matches on the show for sure, but are they that much better than any other match on the show? No. So, for sure it comes down to what you value, and I don't think it's so much peak, in the way Rick Rude in WCW is a short peak, but in that these TV matches have a ceiling that isn't all that high. In fairness though, I'm not watching the PPVs, which are certainly part of the equation, but when I've heard people talk about those guys, a lot of it was on the basis of these TV matches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadaveri Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 Sure I didn't mean 'peak' as in a period of time, I meant is as in 'how great is their very best work'. Maybe ceiling is the better word for that. In which case I'd agree that Christian's ceiling/peak stuff isn't Top 100 material, his case is that he has for many years very consistently put out lots of good-very good matches with virtually anybody he's been put up against. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted April 27, 2022 Report Share Posted April 27, 2022 I finally updated the last year and a half of the New Footage Friday/Found Footage Friday Master List so now all 200+ entries are there. This isn't a comprehensive list of all new potential footage for non-active GWE candidates since the last poll but it does give you a pretty good sense of what's shown up, a SC review, and quite often a youtube link if it's still up. It doesn't have the French reviews which is a different list I'd have to update. http://segundacaida.blogspot.com/2019/09/new-footage-friday-master-list.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clayton Jones Posted April 28, 2022 Report Share Posted April 28, 2022 How is everyone feeling now that we're a little over 20% done our journey? I had a rare quiet moment to sit down with a cup of coffee today and update my log for most of what I can remember watching for the past few months. This is the hardest part for me, finding the time to document everything, and I'm not using any formulas or equations or anything fancy here. But I know it's necessary for me to reevaluate everything when we start to approach the finish line. Watching the footage continues to be a blast and I'm pretty happy with the 200 or so matches I watched for GWE in year 1. If I break 1K for the project I'll feel like I've made a valiant effort for most of my names under consideration. I know there are folks out there watching at a more rapid pace and I tip my cap to you because this is definitely the best I can manage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reel Posted April 28, 2022 Report Share Posted April 28, 2022 I feel like if I had to make a list tomorrow, I could and it would be fine, but I wouldn't feel great about it. I'll probably feel the same way in 2026, but at least I'd have watched 4 more years of wrestling to inform my list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reel Posted April 7, 2023 Report Share Posted April 7, 2023 I was thinking about the best female wrestlers ever the other day, and started drafting a list. I was struck by how US/Japan-centric my list would be, which has lead me here with two questions: 1) Where are the luchadoras? I'm willing to admit that all wrestling isn't created equally, but when you look at GWE nominees, ballots and discussions, I'd say there are probably two dozen guys, minimum, from the lucha scene who get heavy consideration, but outside of Lola Gonzalez and La Galactica, is there anybody who has any buzz? Should we be deep diving Dalys and the Apache sisters? Are there women who people really like that I've missed? 2) If it isn't the luchadoras, then who is the most underrepresented group in the GWE circle? Obviously there are scenes where we don't have the footage to really discuss in-depth, but outside of that, who are we missing? Are we not talking about them because they're just kinda bad, or for some other reason? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadaveri Posted April 7, 2023 Report Share Posted April 7, 2023 21 hours ago, Reel said: 1) Where are the luchadoras? I'm willing to admit that all wrestling isn't created equally, but when you look at GWE nominees, ballots and discussions, I'd say there are probably two dozen guys, minimum, from the lucha scene who get heavy consideration, but outside of Lola Gonzalez and La Galactica, is there anybody who has any buzz? Should we be deep diving Dalys and the Apache sisters? Are there women who people really like that I've missed? I'd guess it's mainly because women's wrestling was banned in Mexico City until 1986, which massively depleted its development and the amount of footage we have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr JMML Posted May 1, 2023 Report Share Posted May 1, 2023 On 4/8/2023 at 1:16 AM, Kadaveri said: I'd guess it's mainly because women's wrestling was banned in Mexico City until 1986, which massively depleted its development and the amount of footage we have. It's a shame considering how good Lola Gonzalez vs Pantera Sureña is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strobogo Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 Cyclone/Hurricane Smith might be one of the worst pro wrestlers I've ever seen. Just comically bad and phony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strobogo Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 Like this is the best looking thing I've seen him do in 4 or 5 matches. Thigh slapping in the 60s. Side note, were the Tolos bros the Young Bucks of their day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted June 21 Author Report Share Posted June 21 We are going to try to use the #GWE when discussing this project on social media, if you call could do that as well. Please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strobogo Posted August 13 Report Share Posted August 13 How much of Jumbo's Amarillo excursion made it to tape? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Jackson Posted August 13 Report Share Posted August 13 38 minutes ago, strobogo said: How much of Jumbo's Amarillo excursion made it to tape? None that I'm aware of. Would be cool to see if some of it is out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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