KawadaSmile Posted September 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2022 What the fuck that was possibly Edge's best spear ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted September 27, 2022 Report Share Posted September 27, 2022 10 hours ago, KawadaSmile said: ROMAN is big ratings, baybeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee That was all the Bray Wyatt tease, bubba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted September 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2022 Roman has to fight against all odds, even against the fanbase! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted September 27, 2022 Report Share Posted September 27, 2022 The fanbase LOVES him right now. But yeah, that Bray teasing is working like a house of fire. If they don't miss the peak and play their card right, the guy can be HUGE. I was thinking about how Cody Rhodes winning the Rumble and going to Mania to beat Roman (if the Rock match doesn't happen) seems like the obvious way. But then again, is Triple H, the guy who politicked his way in so many bullshit booking over the years, really gonna book the guy who came back from "that pissant company" (not to mention the throne breaking) as the one to dethrone Roman ? If Bray gets that megastar treatment and gets over to that degree, what if he was the one to do it in the end ? Yeah, I bet no one had thought about that eventuality yet ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted September 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2022 Bray fucking sucks ass, bubba. No amount of fun easter egg hunting justifies the best ratings in four years, even moreso when the teaser on last Monday was 15 seconds long. We are in 2022 and we know how it goes with him - some cool visuals, the bell sadly has to ring, and we remind ourselves why he gets mocked. Does Triple H have it in him to push Cody? Sure! Both are very similar. Plus, we have to consider Roman actively avoided having to feud with both Fiend Wyatt and Braun Strowman when he came back to win the title. He sent them shipping to RAW while he turned SD into the most watched wrestling show going around. I am sure he wouldn't mind doing the job for Cody, given that a nine-month wait with sympathetic storytelling beats two weeks of cool novelty visuals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted September 27, 2022 Report Share Posted September 27, 2022 7 minutes ago, KawadaSmile said: No amount of fun easter egg hunting justifies the best ratings in four years, even moreso when the teaser on last Monday was 15 seconds long. And yet, it's exactly what happened. Of course it's always a case of people getting hot for someone coming back. Then, how it turns out is a very different thing. Funny how we haven't heard one CM Punk chants in the last three weeks... There's obviously no way to know how things will turn out for Bray. I hope there's more black goo (wait, that was Bliss, well put her with him anyway, she apparently lived her best life during that period), giant hammer and goofy lightning incoming ! The White Rabbit was Karrion Kross' gimmick in Lucha Underground btw. Interesting twist there. Also, we know who the real Bunny is. 10 minutes ago, KawadaSmile said: Does Triple H have it in him to push Cody? Sure! Both are very similar. Plus, we have to consider Roman actively avoided having to feud with both Fiend Wyatt and Braun Strowman when he came back to win the title. He sent them shipping to RAW while he turned SD into the most watched wrestling show going around. I am sure he wouldn't mind doing the job for Cody, given that a nine-month wait with sympathetic storytelling beats two weeks of cool novelty visuals. On paper, again if the Rock things doesn't happen, it sounds like the most obvious thing to do, unless there's that "yes but he is from AEW" sting in the back of their mind (let's be real, Cody Rhodes came back as a big star *strictly* because of AEW). There's also the possibility of Roman beating Cody in the main event, as they go "well, we'll get the Rock next year"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted September 27, 2022 Report Share Posted September 27, 2022 I thin it's less the Bray and more the teasing. There hasn't been any intrigue in WWE TV for years. No mysteries, no "Who did it" since Bischoff tried to have someone run over Roman Reigns and it got killed in a couple of weeks, right? Wrestling fans love surprises. The entire Monday Night Wars era was built on who would jump next and who would join the NWO next. So there are almost weekly returns right now and the interactive mystery thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted September 27, 2022 Report Share Posted September 27, 2022 You are all in denial about Bray Wyatt (understandably so, you have suffered through the Fiend quite a bit). He was selling a shitload of merchandising. So did Alexa Bliss when she was the female version with the doll (which is why she kept the doll even after dropping the Brayism). He's not "just another surprise". The whole "who jumps shit" has been going on for a while now in AEW, with somewhat diminishing returns. People come back seemingly every week now in WWE too (Lumis, Kross, Gargano, Braun, LeRae). This one is obviously different, as showed by the incredible hype online and the big-ass rating by a younger audience hooked up by social media communication work. Whether people like it or not, Bray Wyatt is seen as a big star, only rendered bigger in perception because of his absence. This hype is unlike anything since probably the teases of CM Punk in AEW. Not to say it won't cool off once he'll have a bunch of matches killing every of his opponents like he did before, but there's something definitely unique going on now. The question is, will they past the peak or not in term of delivering. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted September 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2022 But Bray wasn't necessarily a draw, to put it lightly, when he was active and on top. In fact it was quite the opposite, he didn't leave much of a mark there. Not sure why we should attribute that surge to him when the White Rabbit thing, while engaging, wasn't heavily promoted on WWE's social media, working more as a scavenger hunt deal. They teased Aleister Black, Karrion Kross, Baron Corbin (that would be a great one tbh)... plus Trips is saying "oh there is a name you haven't mentioned yet!!" Like @Matt Dmentioned, it's more about the thrill of the ride. If they were to push Wyatt to the top *again*, he would need to work his ass off in the ring in ways he never quite did before. Outside of Roman and Bryan matches his body of work is pretty damn weak (and honestly, he was never quite that over once the novelty wore off). Amusing aesthetics, some funny props and segments, but that never really translated to anything that could justify him being a top guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted September 27, 2022 Report Share Posted September 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, KawadaSmile said: Not sure why we should attribute that surge to him when the White Rabbit thing, while engaging, wasn't heavily promoted on WWE's social media, working more as a scavenger hunt deal. That's exactly the reason why and why they got a better ratings with a younger audience. 6 minutes ago, KawadaSmile said: They teased Aleister Black, Karrion Kross, Baron Corbin (that would be a great one tbh)... plus Trips is saying "oh there is a name you haven't mentioned yet!!" It was never gonna be Black. Corbin, holy shit seriously, a guy who has been in the company forever now. Kross is already on the shows. Like I just said, complete denial. EVERYBODY knows it's Bray Wyatt. Well, they don't know. But they do. Like with CM Punk. (and really, if it ends up being Baron Corbin or something, expect a HUGE negative feedback, that would be a big time misstep on their part, because there's no one out there who can match up to this kinda hype right now) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted September 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, El-P said: That's exactly the reason why and why they got a better ratings with a younger audience. It was never gonna be Black. Corbin, holy shit seriously, a guy who has been in the company forever now. Kross is already on the shows. Like I just said, complete denial. EVERYBODY knows it's Bray Wyatt. Well, they don't know. But they do. Like with CM Punk. (and really, if it ends up being Baron Corbin or something, expect a HUGE negative feedback, that would be a big time misstep on their part, because there's no one out there who can match up to this kinda hype right now) The point is that SPECULATING is way more fun. Like, yeah, it's Bray Wyatt, but finding out they inserted Black's lyrics into the code, or that coordinates point to Corbin, Kentucky, or any other wacky stuff is way more interesting. Scavenger hunting is dope as fuck regardless of the end product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted September 27, 2022 Report Share Posted September 27, 2022 I don't see much speculation. I see a lot of "OMG it's Bray Wyatt coming back !". Bray Wyatt vs Karrion Kross to claim the title of true White Rabbit. All in Black and White. At Mania next year ! With Bliss vomiting white goo and Scarlett randomly throwing paper fireballs ! BOOK IT PAUL ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted September 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, El-P said: I don't see much speculation. I see a lot of "OMG it's Bray Wyatt coming back !". People were losing their shit over the source code yesterday - even when the red herring was obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted September 27, 2022 Report Share Posted September 27, 2022 It's great marketing, that's for sure. Bray does have some terrific ideas. Not sure he would be worth a shit as a horror movie director as some said though, as his character was always completely empty behind the super cool presentation, which was one of the issue with him (the other being, nothing special inside the ring). Maybe that'll come bite them in the ass again, but in the meantime if they can pop a few big ratings and sell some merch, whatever it is, he's probably a really good investment while the company is hot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDuke Posted September 27, 2022 Report Share Posted September 27, 2022 I liked Wyatt at the start when he was just managing Harper and Rowan. I think maybe he would be better as a manager than a wrestler but I don't know who he would manage right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted September 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2022 Oh, he's not Wes Craven or John Carpenter or anything like that - his entire damn career as Bray Wyatt was all flash and no substance, so think of him like a guy who would direct late 80s or current-day Friday the 13th movies. Schlock, actually fucking sucks, but brings more money than it's spending. They'd be out of their minds to give that man another run at the top, specially when you have more capable guys both as heels and faces. He could get a short title win occasionally if the story demanded, but other than that he'd need to be used sparringly. No fucking Firely Funhouse, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted September 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2022 Just now, TheDuke said: I liked Wyatt at the start when he was just managing Harper and Rowan. I think maybe he would be better as a manager than a wrestler but I don't know who he would manage right now. Authors of Pain are actually built like monsters, so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted September 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2022 They should just call up Joe Gacy and have him play Wyatt's role. At least he can go in the ring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted September 27, 2022 Report Share Posted September 27, 2022 2 hours ago, El-P said: Bray Wyatt vs Karrion Kross to claim the title of true White Rabbit. Imagine if Karrion "The Drizzling Shits" Kross ended up being the White Rabbit. I'm no Bray fan, but I'll take him over Kross any day. Bray's mystique evaporates the minute he climbs into a ring and wrestles the same shitty matches we've seen a million times. Nonetheless, as others have said, the dude is a super-creative genius and missed his calling not being in Hollywood.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted September 27, 2022 Report Share Posted September 27, 2022 People love to figure out a puzzle if you drop clues, so it's no wonder the White Rabbit stuff is working. I'm willing to give everything a chance post-Vince since there's enough history to indicate he was the reason a lot of things didn't work, but Bray probably has a shorter rope than most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted September 27, 2022 Report Share Posted September 27, 2022 I fully support the White Rabbit stuff leading to the creation of a self-contained universe of suck where Bray Wyatt and Karrion Kross can LORE to their hearts' content without contaminating the rest of the roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strobogo Posted September 27, 2022 Report Share Posted September 27, 2022 God that sounds like the worst thing I've ever heard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted September 28, 2022 Report Share Posted September 28, 2022 lol Bron breaking out the STEINER MATH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alucard Posted September 28, 2022 Report Share Posted September 28, 2022 can't wait til this white rabbit shit turns out to be the trailer for wwe 2k23Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted September 28, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2022 Great fucking pop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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