William Bologna Posted April 26, 2023 Report Share Posted April 26, 2023 9 hours ago, Champagne said: Roman Reigns is the best ever at kicking out of pin attempts at the last possible instant before the ref's hand hits 3. I really like this as a category. I always thought Super Delfin was good at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliott Posted April 26, 2023 Report Share Posted April 26, 2023 11 hours ago, SAMS said: @elliott's continued pimping of Dump has led to her body of work being what I'm most excited in exploring as I get into the mid-80s! At her peak in the mid 80s, she's the best I've ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohtani's jacket Posted April 26, 2023 Report Share Posted April 26, 2023 Selling - Mayumi Ozaki Comebacks - Atlantis Basing - Fuerza Guerrera Control Segments -- Satanico, Pirata Morgan & MS-1 Charisma - Dusty Rhodes Being a face - Steve Grey Being a heel - Rene Lasartesse Face in Peril - 80s Chigusa Hot tags - Rock 'n Roll Express On the mic -- Dusty Rhodes Adding intensity to feuds -- Randy Savage Brawling --Stan Hansen Athleticism - Le Petit Prince Ring IQ - Nick Bockwinkel Highest floor - Steve Grey Highest ceiling -- Akira Hokuto TV matches -- Steve Grey Big matches - Kenta Kobashi Best looking/most impactful offense -- Stan Hansen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohtani's jacket Posted April 26, 2023 Report Share Posted April 26, 2023 10 hours ago, ChrisDrakkar said: What about comedy? Les Kellett. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohtani's jacket Posted April 26, 2023 Report Share Posted April 26, 2023 20 hours ago, sek69 said: Okada's dropkick is so smooth it became a big spot in his matches. He's a pretty tall guy too which makes it even more impressive. I've mentioned it before, but Miz is the greatest Sports Entertainer I've ever seen. He does all the things WWE wants their folks to do better than anyone else. Arena Mexico, and no other place comes close imo. History, legendary matches, great atmosphere. It's called the cathedral of lucha for a reason. Plus it's been doing it every week since 1933. MSG could have been a strong contender but other than that NJPW/ROH show there hasn't been any show of note there in like 20 years. Can't say I'm a huge fan of what Arena Mexico has become over the last 25 years, but that's progress I guess. The best venue in Japan is probably Korakuen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted April 27, 2023 Report Share Posted April 27, 2023 His DDT is great, but to me Arn's best move was the spinebuster. The snap he got on it was sick as fuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliott Posted April 27, 2023 Report Share Posted April 27, 2023 Great call on Arn's spinebuster. Andre is my pick for best at comedy. Some more ultra specific ones (- Best Collar & Elbow Tie Up - 70s Superstar Graham Ab Stretch - This is a tough one. My gut says Nick Bockwinkel or maybe Mil Mascaras? But I'm not committed to either of those. Best chin lock - Pass on chinlocks , I'll give you a bear hug & full nelson instead Bear Hug - 70s Superstar Graham Full Nelson - Ken Patera Arm lock - Not sure Headlock - Lawler Taking a Back body Drop - Superstar Graham in the 70s He'd just wildly throw himself over the top. Jumping Knee - Jumbo Back Suplex - Jumbo Giving Low Blows - Satanico Armdrag - I agree that Steamboat is the obvious best at armdrags choice. I'd also like to bring up Masato Yakushiji Best bumper in the ring - Heenan Best bumper incorporating the corner - Slaughter Best Body Slam - Hogan Best Knee Drop - Hansen Best Standing Elbow Drop - Hansen Best Stomp - Choshu Best Chop - I revise my Flair pick to go with Baba. HIs hands are enormous. Used knife edge chops & overhand chops so he's got real chop variety. And his hands probably weigh like 15lbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blehschmidt Posted April 27, 2023 Report Share Posted April 27, 2023 No denying that Arn has the best Spinebuster hands down. I just don't feel that his DDT gets the love that it should. Can I also go ahead and nominate "Hollywood" John Tatum for Best Facial Expressions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisDrakkar Posted April 27, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2023 How about best body language? Comunicating with a mask? Playing to the cheap seats? If only (Liger) there was (Liger) an entirely obvious (Liger) answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dav'oh Posted April 27, 2023 Report Share Posted April 27, 2023 22 hours ago, Dav'oh said: Liger is the best at conveying emotion through a mask. I know I'm just a jobber here but you could at least "register" for me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoS Posted April 27, 2023 Report Share Posted April 27, 2023 2 hours ago, ChrisDrakkar said: How about best body language? Comunicating with a mask? Playing to the cheap seats? El Generico deserves a shout-out for excellent body language and great communication while wearing a mask Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliott Posted April 27, 2023 Report Share Posted April 27, 2023 Facial Expressions - Devil Masami easily Best Body Language - Austin Idol Playing to the Cheap Seats - Austin Idol Communicating with a Mask - Destroyer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisDrakkar Posted April 27, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2023 7 hours ago, Dav'oh said: I know I'm just a jobber here but you could at least "register" for me... Sorry about that. I'll make up for this next time. You're an ace in my heart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted April 27, 2023 Report Share Posted April 27, 2023 Jumbo had the best abdominal stretch and the best stomps. Manami Toyota had the best moonsault. Billy Robinson had the best neckbreaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisDrakkar Posted April 28, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2023 3 hours ago, NintendoLogic said: Jumbo had the best abdominal stretch and the best stomps. I also love his axe handle and blows to the back. All of his blows at the end of his career carried a real pettiness to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAMS Posted April 28, 2023 Report Share Posted April 28, 2023 I love Jumbo's powerslam by the time the 90s rolled around. I would nominate Backlund as having one of the best piledrivers without a doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 Not going to act like he was the best, but early Kane was really good at emoting with a mask while having a non speaking gimmick. Being able to ramp up the emotion in a promo without it sounding too Pro Wrestler Promo Voice-y is kind of a lost art these days. Mick Foley was the best at it I can remember seeing, and the only one who seems to do it on a consistent basis now is KO. Which considering the structure WWE has in place for promos is even more impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocco Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 I always thought Eddie Guerrero had the best powerbomb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirEdger Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 I actually think that Eddie has always had the best Frog Splash. Just the velocity & impact he hit it with, it looked devastating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyonthewall2983 Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 Best arena (on television), MSG or Boston Garden for WWF and the Scope in Norfolk, Virginia for WCW comes to mind. For both companies, what’s now the Allstate Arena (formerly the Rosemont Horizon) in Chicago is an amazing building for wrestling. My brother was there when Punk won the WWE title and said it was the best in-arena experience he’s ever had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAMS Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 I've always been impressed by the atmosphere at Maple Leaf Gardens, both when running JCP or WWF crews. It had that funky layout, with the ramp leading directly to the ring, but the crowd always seemed rabid and from what I've seen, the match quality was always pretty high (could be selection bias of course) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Jackson Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 Definitely a lot of classic WWF matches from 85-87 MLG, particularly involving the combination of Steamboat, Savage or Santana. Great unique look and atmosphere. Toronto fans were pretty rowdy. In fact, the famous ramp was first installed in (I believe) the late 40s because heels were getting abused so badly on their way to the ring, including stabbings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliott Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 The Philly Spectrum has proven to be my favorite arena when watching late 70s-mid 80s WWF. It's like the wilder, slightly more unhinged cousin of MSG. The baseball stadiums in Puerto Rico & the arena with the weird multi colored floor in Puerto Rico deserve a mention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clayton Jones Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 The Spectrum was such an amazing venue to see events at. It simultaneously felt so big yet so intimate. A certain electricity always in the air like a living, breathing entity. Man do I miss it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr JMML Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 Kenta Kobashi's chop is unreal Manami Toyota's dropkick is awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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