WWE TV Megathread

[El-P]

And Jordynne Grace is coming in at the start of the year. With Roxanne Perez, Giulia and Stephanie Vaquer, this is ridiculous stacked.

[Blehschmidt]

I also think Kelani Jordan, Wren Sinclair, and Fallon Henley have pretty good potential from the current crop of NXT girls.

Jordan has especially been impressing me as she seems to improve with every match, and she is one of the girls that had no previous wrestling experience, instead coming from a gymnastics background. Sinclair and Henley have previous wrestling experience, having both appeared in AEW and the indies.

[El-P]

I'm not watching the product (although I might watch a bit of these women matches starting with this multi-women iron whatever it is, I basically only watched Roxanne Perez vs Jordynne Grace earlier this year), but I remember Wren Sinclair working a bunch of matches during the AEW Dark (ironically enough, the "good ol" days" of AEW) as Madi Wrenkoswki. She's the kind of talent AEW should have signed and develop instead of throwing money to toe Ruby Soho's and Saraya's of the world. The few I've seen in Sol Ruca in TNA was pretty cool too. 

[Blehschmidt]

Totally agree. Henley was there as Tesha Price and it's the same deal.

If you are going to check out the Iron Survivor, you should go back a couple weeks and check out the qualifying matches for it as well. Give you a bit more insight into what the ladies can do in a non-gimmick match environment.

[strobogo]

Iron Survivor seems like a mix of King of the Moutain without a ladder and the Championship Scramble match. Is that accurate? 

[sek69]

its basically a scramble match where everyone tries to get pinfalls, and when someone gets pinned they go in the penalty box for 2 minutes.

It sounds TNA as hell but it works.

[NotJayTabb]

You can add Cora Jade and Thea Hail to the AEW Dark alum crew as well. Cora even put over Brandi in her time there. 

[sek69]

No matter what else happens, them bringing back "Obsession" for SNME makes this show a success in my book.

[sek69]

ITS PAT

[WingedEagle]

I just noticed the refs rocking the old school bowties and am loving it. So many great callbacks. This is how you utilize history.

[sek69]

took me a little longer than it probably should have to notice the refs were in the old school powder blue shirts with bow ties

[C.S.]

Red, white, and blue ropes too.

[sek69]

JFC it looked like Iyo knee'd Liv's nose off her face.

[WingedEagle]

This show absolutely rocks. Imagine if they regularly ran TV like this without all of the fat in between matches.

[sek69]

Cody finally willed the Winged Eagle into existence, good for him!

[flyonthewall2983]

I feel privileged to say I heard Jesse Ventura call a WWE title match as it happened. For so many of us he is the voice of this industry, and hearing him do what he did best and behind such a superb heel as Kevin Owens is, was more than nostalgia but something truer to why this stuff is worth giving a damn about. Even now, maybe more than ever now we do need this spectacle as part of American life to distract or reflect what it is we hide from, even ourselves.

[El-P]

4 hours ago, flyonthewall2983 said:

Even now, maybe more than ever now we do need this spectacle as part of American life to distract or reflect what it is we hide from, even ourselves.

Doing a nostalgia show about the glory days of Vince McMahon's WWF during Hulkamania (there's nothing *more* Vince & Hogan era than Saturday Night's Main Event, hell it basically was the flagship show that defined the entire era), without mentioning either of them of course, with Cody Rhodes draped in the American flag colors weeks removed from the US people electing basically a fascist candidate to the White House, a fascist candidate whose secretary of commerce is gonna be the mother-in-law of creative director of this very show, is certainly a vibe. There's SO MUCH that could be written about all of this, indeed, from a sociological/political/historical aspect. A fascinating dive into the american psyche, for sure.

[flyonthewall2983]

This is the place to do it

[JRH]

Cole discussing the history of the Winged Eagle belt made the wrestling nerd in me smile.

[El-P]

4 hours ago, flyonthewall2983 said:

This is the place to do it

It would take me a LOT of time, thinking, writing and probably research to articulate everything that I'm still vaguely thinking about, and probably discover stuff along the way. Not sure I'm up for the challenge. Maybe eventually.

In the meantime, in classic pro-wrestling board shitposter mode, I do feel like more than ever, WWE stands for White Washing Entertainment. 

[Blehschmidt]

The throwbacks were nice, but of course they couldn't get out of their own way and do it 100% correctly, because WWE must WWE at all times.

The opening of the show should have been simple. Hyped Up promos, Obsession, crowd shot and announcers.... Easy and Simple.

But instead we of course had to have the self fellating video package about how WWE invented everything in wrestling. Because if we don't hit people over the head with that at every opportunity they might forget. At least they didn't say smoke filled arenas and bingo halls I guess.

[RocknWrestling]

I liked Jesse the Body announcing on SNME for Cody/KO, but I'm not so sure that I want him calling every match. Kinda obvious that he's of a much different mindset regarding how wrestling works than what is prevalent today. He was clearly exasperated at KO's top-rope fisherman's buster only getting a two-count when it would've been a near-crippling finisher in his day.

Still thought that it was great how he took KO's side and justified all of his actions in his own Jesse the Body logic that made sense. That's the Jesse that we all know and love on commentary.

[Alucard]

 

Classic SNME style opening promos from all involved.  Really good - but they did not air these on TV.

[Coffey]

I think my favorite thing about the show was that matches... just ended. It wasn't a lot of false finishes, or 2-count kickouts. It was... hit my move & go home. We you don't get that for so long, you forget what it's like!

Drew hit the Claymore & the match was just over. Clean in the middle. I was like "what!?" It was great!

[JRH]

Was also surprised to find that Jesse Ventura never wrestled Dusty Rhodes (then again, I dont think there was ever a time they could have crossed paths).