jdw Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 Being aware and being self aware are two different things. You can be aware that others are critical of you. In turn, you can dismiss it because, what the fuck, you're more successful writing about pro wrestling (and MMA for that matter) than any of the people being critical so... fuck them. It's a world different to be self aware that while your "content", "facts", "reporting" and "information" may be really good / strong / great that your actual "writing quality" is poor / bad / embarrassing at times. While he's aware of criticism, I doubt Dave thinks his writing is ever bad or poor, nor is embarrassed by it, except in times like this... when it's being factually wrong in what he published that embarrassed him, not the quality of his writing. Does that make sense? I think we're talking about two sides of the same coin, Will. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 I think we are John. However, some of the posts in this thread seem in denial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJH Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 This weeks Observer was over 43,000 words. For the average journalist, I would guess 10,000 is considered a very busy week. Even if we knock that down by 25% as being provided by someone else/results C&P-age, etc, that's a whole lot of writing. If you asked the best writer in the world to knock out a novella each week it's not going to come out pretty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ditch Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 ...which is why he needs to drop things like show recaps and break up the content between pro wrestling and MMA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 --This has nothing to do with wrestling, but Dallas on TNT has a two-hour season premiere tonight at 9 p.m. and repeating at 11 p.m. that I'm going to miss. I don't think this has the slightest effect on the Raw rating. I only bring this up because people have speculated it's going to hurt Raw. People eh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovert Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 http://mmapayout.com/2013/02/certification...llator-lawsuit/ The Meltzer Buyrate Formula perhaps finally revealed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 I thought he was usually getting a lot of that information from people in the cable (and I guess satellite too maybe) industry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 Exactly. He has sources probably in the cable business (or who cover the cable business), within the companies (WWE, UFC), no doubt some fighters (fight bonus based on PPV number), and also eventually sees what the WWE publishes as their domestic numbers. He likely triangulates based on which has a track record of being correct, or who is slightly better on others. I'm a little surprised that Dave would agree to be on either side of this case, or pretty much any other case similar to this. One would hope that Alvarez's attorneys let him know it opened him up to discovery, including potentially a depo. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 Yeah, if Dave volunteered (I don't know if he did), I'm surprised, especially since he felt sending in a ballot for the new official UFC rankings might be a conflict of interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 "Certification" appears to be the USDC for NJ equiv of "Declaration" elsewhere. It reads exactly like a declaration, with Dave swearing under penalty of perjury and signing it, which is what you'd do in a declaration. You do these voluntarily in support of the party filing it. I get Eddie's team looking around for someone to counter Longbord's declaration, and if I was working on the case and knew something about MMA coverage, I likely would toss out "Dave Meltzer" to the attorney I was working for. Of course on the other side, if asked by Dave, I'd wonder why he would want to volunteer rather than just sitting it out. Perhaps he knows Eddie, is friendly with him and you tend to help out friends. On the other hand, I'm not sure Dave would want to go through a depo or discovery on this. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 I love Dave saying in this weeks Observer that Del Rio v. Henry at Mania wouldn't be a big match. I'm not even going to argue that it would be, but given the options and history the implied argument that Orton as a heel would be a better choice is comical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 Honestly, I think they could probably market Swagger vs Del Rio at this point higher than either Orton or Henry. It has the sort of exploitative story that'll get coverage while the other matches wouldn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedEagle Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 Swagger with Zeb may generate "more" coverage. But it will be negative coverage that doesn't add a dime to the show's bottom line. Henry is the hottest, freshest heel on the roster and a better fit vs. ADR than even Punk would be at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 I think they should do Henry/ADR have Henry basically destroy ADR either before losing or after losing the match to set up Ziggler cashing in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 I love Dave saying in this weeks Observer that Del Rio v. Henry at Mania wouldn't be a big match. I'm not even going to argue that it would be, but given the options and history the implied argument that Orton as a heel would be a better choice is comical. Randy Orton is a star to the WWE audience. Mark Henry isn't. I guess it comes down to that in their mind, no matter how bad Orton would be in that spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 I love Dave saying in this weeks Observer that Del Rio v. Henry at Mania wouldn't be a big match. I'm not even going to argue that it would be, but given the options and history the implied argument that Orton as a heel would be a better choice is comical. Randy Orton is a star to the WWE audience. Mark Henry isn't. I guess it comes down to that in their mind, no matter how bad Orton would be in that spot. Tell this to 2011 viewers of Smackdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 5535408[/url]'] 5535401[/url]' date='Feb 14 2013, 01:37 PM'] 5535324[/url]' date='Feb 14 2013, 06:27 AM']I love Dave saying in this weeks Observer that Del Rio v. Henry at Mania wouldn't be a big match. I'm not even going to argue that it would be, but given the options and history the implied argument that Orton as a heel would be a better choice is comical. Randy Orton is a star to the WWE audience. Mark Henry isn't. I guess it comes down to that in their mind, no matter how bad Orton would be in that spot. Tell this to 2011 viewers of Smackdown Or to last weeks viewers when SD ! Did its best number in a long time with Mark Henry returning in the main event against Randy Orton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 I'm not arguing, just saying what I think is in Dave & Alvarez' minds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chess Knight Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 I kinda hope Henry wins the WHC at Mania, and then Ziggler cashes the briefcase in and Henry mutilates him in 20 seconds. Oh who am I kidding? I *REALLY* want that to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 Yeah, that would be awesome. In fact, I know Dolphin Ziggler is a net favorite but I think a Makrk Henry injury angle is exactly what're needs together off the TV screen for a few months and get repackaged. First, he needs to change his horrible name. Then he needs to come up with a better gimmick than show off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedEagle Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 If they were serious about it you could have Ziggler about to win, then Henry does something so awful and over the line it turns Ziggler face for his come back. Now that'd be fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slasher Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 Dunno. I don't think it is in WWE's design for Dolph to hold the briefcase for a damned long time only to get destroyed when he finally cashes it in. I think they did the Cena DQ thing to get the whole "MITB winner loses" scenario out of the way. I think the future is rosier for Dolph and the next couple of MITB holders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 I am not syaing it is in their plans. I am saying it SHOULD be in their plans. We talk about stale characters all the time and Ziggler is really stale right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slasher Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 I do like the idea, only because it is Mark Henry. I do just think that Dolph is probably permanently damaged. His real name isn't marketable and it would be insincere to repackage him as any other name. He has also been in or near the main event level for long enough, people know who he is. If he suddenly showed up after a hiatus as Nick Fury or something, it won't work. He can change his character though but even with time off, he needs heavy dosage of character rehab. It isn't like Henry where he returns with this kind of steam, because he is coming back off the Hall of Pain/title run. Dolph either has to have some success before getting written off, a sort of a cliffhanger push, or they need to expect a good 6 months to year rehab when he does return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJH Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 Either way, he's done really fucking well for an in-joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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