Marty Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 It was three weeks later. http://www.thehistoryofwwe.com/03.htm WWE @ Cleveland, OH - Gund Arena - March 10, 2003 Sunday Night Heat: Rodney Mack (w/ Teddy Long) pinned Tommy Dreamer with a swinging neckbreaker Spike Dudley pinned Mike Stryker with the Dudley Dogg Molly Holly pinned Jackie with a roll up Steven Richards (w/ Victoria) pinned Al Snow with the DDT Raw: Chris Jericho & Christian defeated Rob Van Dam & Kane when Jericho pinned RVD with the Lionsault; after the bout, Shawn Michaels superkicked Jericho on the rampway Jeff Hardy pinned Rico (w/ Rosey & Jamal) with a roll up Trish Stratus fought Jazz to a no contest when WWE Women's Champion Victoria hit both participants with the title belt in the first 10 seconds of the match; the bout was to have determined the #1 contender for the women's championship WWE Raw World Champion Triple H (w/ Ric Flair) pinned Maven with the Pedigree; after the bout, Al Snow came out to check on Maven but was also hit with the Pedigree from the champion Chief Morley & WWE Raw Tag Team Champion Lance Storm defeated D-Von Dudley in a handicapmatch when Morley pinned D-Von with the Money Shot The Hurricane pinned the Rock with a roll up at about 9:30 in a No DQ match as Rock was distracted by Steve Austin at ringside; after the bout, Austin gave Rock two middle fingers; the Rock's opponent was scheduled to have been Booker T but a substitution was made with no explanation given WWE @ Seattle, WA - Key Arena - March 31, 2003 Sunday Night Heat: Rodney Mack (w/ Teddy Long) pinned Spike Dudley by reversing an attempt at the Dudley Dog into a powerslam Christian pinned Tommy Dreamer with the Unprettier WWE Women's Champion Trish Stratus pinned Ivory with the bulldog; after the bout, Trish and Ivory double teamed an interfering Victoria, who came ringside to steal the title belt Raw - included a closing segment in which Bill Goldberg made his surprise debut by interruping the Rock's in-ring promo, grabbing a microphone and telling the Rock he's next, and then spearing him to the mat: WWE Raw World Champion Triple H (w/ Ric Flair) pinned the Hurricane with the Pedigree in a non-title match Scott Steiner defeated Christopher Nowinski via submission with the Steiner Recliner Maven pinned Rosey (w/ Rico) with a sunset flip Booker T defeated Chris Jericho via disqualification when Ric Flair and Triple H interfered; Shawn Michaels attempted to make the save but was eventually beaten down as well Jeff Hardy pinned Steven Richards (w/ Victoria) with the Swanton after Trish Stratus prevented Victoria from interfering Rob Van Dam & Kane defeated the Dudley Boyz and WWE Raw Tag Team Champions Lance Storm & Chief Morley (sub. for William Regal) in an elimination match to win the titles; RVD pinned D-Von with the Van Daminator; RVD pinned Morley with the Five Star Frog Splash after Kane hit the chokeslam on both opponents; due to prematch stipulations, had RVD and Kane not won the match they would be forced to work for Chief Morley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted February 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 I remember the heat being way more than you'd think for that match considering how it was laid out, which I'd attribute to the Rock job. That's what I meant by Helms benefitting from the banana peel job. He also did a run-in the following week to attempt to save Michaels and Booker from a heel beatdown, which was pretty high profile angle involvement for him, even if it was the booking equivalent of lip service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 And you wonder why Rock got tired of dealing with all that bullshit. He did his business with Austin, then did his business with Goldberg (putting him over in Goldberg's first WWE match). After that he got booked into his own special storylines, staying the hell away from stuff that Trip could fuck up. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 Any update on the Yahoo gig? No articles by Dave since January 29, so it appears he's done even if they haven't wiped his old stuff off the archives. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 I think Dave said the alternative option was a freelance role so I suppose he could be sticking around and not have gotten any assignments yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 This must be one of those "read between the lines" deals. I don’t know why, but Mendes is facially morphing into looking like Chyna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 Very strong short bio on Doug Furnas in today's WON and Dave is promising a bigger one when he is less limited on space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 Very strong short bio on Doug Furnas in today's WON and Dave is promising a bigger one when he is less limited on space.Agreed, maybe the best "bigger bio when we have more space" obit Dave's ever done, both in terms of cool stories and giving a good picture of the career & person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 The Bob Polk/Kevin Sullivan restaurant story was awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovert Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 On Okada vs Naito on the forum: I'd go ****3/4. I've done a 180 on Okada already and Naito was unbelievable in this match. He's going to be the best worker in the business soon (and he's very close to it now) and will be for years to come. In the middle of the match, I was thinking this is the first in what is going to be one of the great feuds of all-time, like a Funk-Brisco match from 1970 or the first Flair-Steamboat or Misawa-Kobashi. It was that good. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0GGGysnZ5o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 Oh dear god... someone isn't going to force me to watch that, right? John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLIK Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 I'm afraid we must insist now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cox Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 I think Dave's match recommendations have gotten so loony that they have a reverse effect on me. I actively stay away from every match he praises. Not that I have to try very hard not to watch current New Japan, mind you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Evans Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 Okada is the Japanese Crimson. Naito carried him to an OK match but it's nowhere near as good as Dave says. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovert Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 Some times I cant figure you guys out. : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paul Kersey Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 If im not up on current puro at all, is there anything I need to know before watching that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLIK Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 Don't watch a ton of current New Japan myself but i'm gonna try and get to this later today. If im not up on current puro at all, is there anything I need to know before watching that? Naito's a guy they've been grooming for a top spot for a while in the middle of getting his first big break. Okada's a guy they haven't been grooming for a top spot but saw something in so they hot shoted the belt on him before he was ready to try and create a new star and now he's having to try really hard to step up and not blow his chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 Some times I cant figure you guys out. : In what way? John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 I don't know, man. I'm not a real big Dave Meltzer fan, but I just watched that match and it was pretty incredible. I marked out five or six times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Liska Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 It's a fun match. Comparing it to Misawa/Kobashi is crazy, so immediately strike that thought from your head, but it's really good. There's a lot about the modern puro style that's driven me away from watching it in recent years, but I'm really enjoying the current NJPW product They have a roster of fun characters and a lot of the matches are well put together. It's not just strike exchanges and no-selling and guys killing themselves to get a pop. The crowds are even noisy now. I actually preferred the Akiyama/Omori match this year, I would recommend that one too. And I know how crazy it sounds to be pimping Omori matches in 2012 as worth going out of your way to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 Some times I cant figure you guys out. : In what way? John I was going to ask him the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovert Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 Some times I cant figure you guys out. : In what way? John I was going to ask him the same thing. Just some people's reactions to a strong recommendation is so deficit based at times. Don't want to get into an involved discussion but when did watching wrestling that MIGHT be extremely good become a chore? Personally I think the match is at least ****1/2 for the record. #westerneuropean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLIK Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 It's a fun match. Comparing it to Misawa/Kobashi is crazy, Don't think he meant it as a literal direct comparison, I just read it as "hey this could be the start of great feud for years to come" and then he named a bunch of other great long term feuds to illustrate his point trying to say "like imagine watching the first _ vs _" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovert Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 It's a fun match. Comparing it to Misawa/Kobashi is crazy, Don't think he meant it as a literal direct comparison, I just read it as "hey this could be the start of great feud for years to come" and then he named a bunch of other great long term feuds to illustrate his point trying to say "like imagine watching the first _ vs _" It is hard not to come away from that match and think Okada doesnt have potential. Ive sent a link of the match to modern day Puro fans and even to those who dont what Puro at all. Both have said it was a high end match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 when did watching wrestling that MIGHT be extremely good become a chore? No later than the 10/98 Misawa-Kobashi, though quite possibly as early as the 10/97 Misawa-Kobashi. So perhaps the Misawa-Kobashi comp is applicable... John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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