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The Boogeyman. I love everything about him. The stuff with him and Lil Boogey vs. Finlay & Hornswoggle is some of my favorite wrestling BS of all time.

Watch a bunch of Continental before 2026 so you can rank Bob Armstrong, Jimmy Golden, Robert Fuller, Adrian Street, Dirty White Boy and The Nightmares.

Yea Don West got really good when they turned him heel but that didn't last long because they had the "bright" idea of replacing him with Tazz. And yea the story about Don West at house shows was that he would help them sell a ton of merchandise.

I understand your sadness but you've been around long enough to know you should always be saving rare stuff off youtube. I've also been around long enough to have lost a 3TB HDD which was almost full of wrestling ... That makes 2 of us. But I will still be saving stuff off youtube when I start living in a house again and am not surfing the internet solely off my phone and library computers.

I'll take Lawler & Dundee punching each other over that any day. same, though I wonder how much of that is chops becoming ubiquitous while good punches can be rare That's because there is a lot more skill involved in throwing a good worked punch. It's creating the simulation of violence while not actually hurting your opponent. Pretty much everything wrestling is supposed to be. A good chop is pretty much just hitting a guy really hard in his chest. Personally chops are kind of stupid to me because you're getting your chest all blistered and cut up for a move that no one in the audience really has any respect for as anything more than a noise to Whoo along with.

I'll take Lawler & Dundee punching each other over that any day.

I'd like to see that "I'm not sure if there is another move in wrestling as multilayered as Flair's chop" quote fleshed out because I don't see it. I mean Lawler had lots of different punches from jabs, to uppercuts, to wild swinging haymakers and all of them looked really good (with the exception of maybe when he'd have a guy on the mat and do his flurry of punches)

I have no idea because I wasn't watching Japanese wrestling in 2007 and would not go back to watch it now. He was definitely one of the best guys in WWE in 2007. I'm not making a case for Undertaker though. Just pointing out how you get very upset when people bring up Flair's bad stuff like it somehow should not count while trying to handwave away anything good Taker did only to focus on the negative.

I'd put Taker's peak between 2007-2008. But his career is a weird case because I'm not sure anyone else has so many peaks and valleys. He's really good in 96/97 and then not so good until 2002 when has the awesome matches with Lesnar. American Bad Ass Taker was good as a heel, not so much as a babyface and the return to the Deadman didn't really lead to anything good until 2007 when he suddenly had an awesome feud with Batista that no one saw coming.

I love Parv pointing out Undertaker's lows while he steadfastly argued this whole time that Flair's didn't count. And yea, this feud was awesome. The matches not so much but one the best feuds Taker had.

I wish he was still around. He seems like a good opponent for JVK.

Yea you could take that idea to extremes and say no one should do moves off the top rope because it has to be set up by having his opponent laying down in the ring.

A lot of the TNA "surprise" debuts were just one off appearances. Like I'm pretty sure that Mabel/Viscera "debut" was the only time he was ever there. I think it was an idea to get people to buy the PPVs because you never knew who might show up but when the "surprises" are guys like Bart Gunn, Viscera and a random ass Nikita Koloff appearance 10 years after he's relevant, it's not much of a selling point. I've never heard anything about Don West being "recruited" by Russo, I think that was a hire by one of the Jarretts. He was a host of some shows on Home Shopping Channel that did a lot better than their average. Bascially he was a guy who had experience getting people to buy stuff.

No. It is a show on El Reye network.. using US and AAA talent. Probably the best wrestling show on television. They do record their shows in bulk, so they have taped things that won't air till next year it seems. Thanks. Is it, as the name suggests, a lucha venture, or just basically a US indie? Has it got much traction - is it on the level of, say, ROH? Do they focus mainly on good matches or are there also storylines? I'm fearful of derailing the thread too much, but could someone also give me a summary of the Jeff Jarrett venture? Do they run shows? It's only a tv show. Gets more viewers than TNA or ROH.That's not true. ROH does at least double the viewers. And the last numbers I saw for LU ratings was around 150,000-170,000. TNA fluctuates between the 270,000-320,000 range.

I also don't think the falconarrow guy on twitter is the same one from reddit but I am amused how people are in love with the guy giving away WWE spoilers but Meltzer has been getting a bunch of angry tweets about talking about the big season 3 spoiler from Lucha Underground.

Dino Bravo had a very good career before he went to WWF.

I always intended to bring this back but that seems unlikely now. The external hard drive I had all my SE/Continental footage on got destroyed, along with most of my things, last week when a tree fell on my house. Maybe someday I will be able to replace it all and bring this thread back.

This is a great post because it is totally accurate.

I dunno, I just remember it as a bunch of chops and grimaces.

Endless chops are brilliant and lots of punches means laziness, got it.

Crowds went mental for Lawler dropping his strap and Hogan doing his Hulk Up but that doesn't stop some people from bashing it. And if trading 100 plus chops for like 5 minutes isn't dumb it's at least uncreative and lazy.

If you hate the no sell comeback, which is pretty much the standard of all big time US babyfaces, do you also hate the stupid 'lets willingly stand here and exchange chops/forearms' fighting spirit wankfests? I saw some Kobashi match in NOAH where he did like a 5 minute chop exchange with someone and its maybe the dumbest thing I have ever seen.

Luckily we're past the workrate mentality that included wisdom like "chops=great tehnical wrestling" and pretended amount of moves used is a valid criteria to judge wrestlers on. Personally I still like that some people talk about 'limited movesets' because I take those 2 words as a code that means 'ignore everything I say about wrestling'

What is wrong with Rock's punches??

Glad putting the Hansen/Colon feud on youtube helped him get so high. If you didn't watch it yet wtf are you doing with your life?