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  1. I've heard a lot of buzz about ACH which I really don't get based on this match, but I will give him credit for being a good passenger and following Scorpio's lead. Is it possible Scorpio is the best working veteran on the indy circuit these days? ACH had some great highspots in this one, but is still pretty green. Scorpio gave this match some personality and I like how he's adjusted his offense as he's gotten older. This match was okay but if anything, Scorpio was way too giving to a guy who just clearly wasn't at his level.
  2. Loss

    Ongoing 2013 MOTY List

    Yes.
  3. Talk about it here.
  4. Loss

    Ongoing 2013 MOTY List

    You'll notice I explained that in the post.
  5. I will edit this as I make my way through all of the matches. I am only ranking matches that I like instead of ranking every single match I watch. #1 - John Cena vs CM Punk (WWE Monday Night RAW 02/25/13) ****1/2 #2 - Rush vs El Terrible (CMLL 01/22/13) ****1/2 #3 - Bobby Zavala & Disturbio vs Leono & Tiger Blanco (CMLL 01/01/13) ****1/4 #4 - The Shield vs John Cena, Sheamus & Ryback (WWE Elimination Chamber 02/17/13) **** #5 - Hiroshi Tanahashi vs Kazuchika Okada (NJPW Wrestle Kingdom 7 01/04/13) ***3/4 #6 - Hiroshi Tanahashi vs Karl Anderson (NJPW 02/10/13) ***1/2 #7 - Titan vs Polvora (CMLL 01/01/13) ***1/2
  6. There was some amazing high flying in this match, but it was pretty empty outside of that. Highspot, pin attempt, highspot, pin attempt. I enjoyed the hell out of it because the athleticism was pretty amazing to watch, but I don’t think it was really much of a match beyond the big moves.
  7. I complained about the globalization of pro wrestling styles in the modern scene after the first few matches on the set. This match isn’t immune from that, but it benefits from that more than it feels like a match somehow compromised. The stiff shots like Terrible’s kicks mixed in with typical lucha matwork, brawling and flying is a nice pairing. I think maybe the reason that rings true is that the non-house style stuff is sprinkled in instead of swallowing the match whole. El Terrible throwing those awesome left hooks felt like a tribute to Sangre Chicana. This was a super match - my favorite of the year so far and the first real classic I’ve seen from 2013. It’s fun to watch this match build from an aggressive but sportsmanlike encounter to a real war. This starts with some really nice matwork that’s basic but effective. Tempers quickly flare and these guys proceed to fight with reckless abandon. I really dug the huge pride each guy had in proving superiority over the other, and how that led to both triumphs and setbacks for each guy at various points. The momentum shifts weren’t “my turn, your turn”, they were a huge display of willpower that was just too strong for the other guy to overcome. This doesn’t have the technical mastery of something like Dandy vs Satanico, but it definitely has the same spirit and nastiness, and that’s even without blood. Check out the fatigued selling and desperation powering that late match slugfest. Those are the moments you live for as a wrestling fan.
  8. Has that been stated explicitly and repeatedly?
  9. Yeah, Ross is awful in this format. Even the inflection of his voice doesn't really match what he's talking about much of the time, which is strange considering how he always brags about his vast experience doing radio.
  10. I've noticed that now, people try to cover themselves when they're being punched repeatedly. I've heard stories many times of that being a Vince pet peeve and something he even used to chastise Bret Hart for not doing.
  11. Talk about it here.
  12. It's not so much the big finishing stretches. The increased outside interference, stables, more traditional heel/face alignment and camera work for Okada's playing to the crowd feel very WWE to me. I can see how the first few things also feel very AJW though.
  13. I haven't seen very much NOAH in the last few years, but I'll be curious when I see some from 2013 if it follows the same pattern. Setting aside the issue of quality, it felt like a continuation of the All Japan style and I'm wondering if that has changed since Misawa died. I hope it hasn't. How did New Japan's style change so much? When I look at the names on the Best of 2000s project that keep popping up in that promotion, it's guys like Yuji Nagata, who worked a style fairly in line with the traditional New Japan style. So when did the change happen where they started doing more American babyface/heel stuff and more patterned playing to the crowd?
  14. I guess Shield vs Wyatts was second from the top at Elimination Chamber, but still, I liked that they were treating the non-main event match as such a big deal.
  15. I suspect it may have been more of a Stephanie thing. I remember the story in the bonus chapter of the paperback of Have A Nice Day where she thought Mick Foley hated her because he kept veering away from the point during their dueling promos. Foley claims it wasn't that at all - he just didn't remember everything he was supposed to say sometimes so he ad-libbed. It's possible Stephanie feels stronger about scripting than Vince and Vince just never cared enough to overrule her.
  16. At least the Tokyo Dome three-way wasn't so mercilessly long. These guys worked hard and I think they tried to do fresh spots and put together a good match, but that's what makes the three-way such a flawed concept - every attempt to do something different with it ends up looking silly. And I see Bobby Roode raided Stunning Steve Austin's closet.
  17. I love El Generico and thought he was a great FIP in this, but there were way too many false finishes at the end, which just killed the match for me. I could have forgiven some of that if the Young Bucks had any clue how to be decent heels. Generico gets the hero's sendoff.
  18. I hated this match. Instead of the focus being on hatred and intensity, it was on doing the Death Valley Driver off of high things or on to chairs. Way too stunty for my tastes. I also thought it was ridiculous that they did those huge spots, yet a series of punches to the face was the finish. It was like the worst of ECW.
  19. Nash formed his own rogue collective bargaining group to ensure that he and his friends got paid what they thought they deserved. It doesn't surprise me that he's a pretty staunch Democrat.
  20. I'm six matches in on the 2013 MOTYCs. My CMLL is more American and Japanese influenced than I remember it being. My New Japan has a lot of American style gimmicks and WWE style match tropes. I don't want to overreact to a small sampling, but is it fair to say the wrestling styles around the world aren't as distinct as they used to be? It sure seems like the contrast between the styles isn't as sharp as it once was, which is a shame.
  21. The idea that these two are comparable to Flair and Steamboat or Misawa and Kobashi is ridiculous, but I still think this was a good match. I don't think it's that much of a stretch to compare them to their 90s counterparts like Muto and Chono though. I sort of get why Tanahashi fans have a tough time describing what they like about him. Most of the stuff he does is pretty perfunctory, but he has a knack for crafting a match that feels like a real back-and-forth battle with momentum shifts at just the right moments. It stood out to me how early 00s WWE main event style this seemed, specifically when Okada did his hand gesture thing and the camera panned back, and also when Okada is trying to reach the ropes when Tanahashi has the crab submission thing on and Tanahashi walks him back to the middle of the ring. I don't know enough about their finishers to know if they tried stealing them from each other just to put the icing on the cake, but that would make sense. This has nothing to do with the quality of the match, but I noticed it in the CMLL and I'm noticing it here. The styles globally aren't as diverse and distinct as they used to be. The wrestling style isn't 100% the same everywhere, but it has moved noticeably in that direction. And that lack of distinction makes this stuff a little less fun to watch.
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