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I just PMed you about that.

Very few whole matches in this style are around. If you do a YouTube search of 8mm wrestling footage you’ll probably find examples independent of these films that are all filmed the same way, with the stops in filming apparent. It was a thing. I’m sure everyone would have filmed whole matches if they could have but it’s a rarity.

Have you never seen these, Matt? They were one of the first things I found when I came online.

The 8mm cameras of the time seemed to only be able to film for a certain amount of time for some reason, unless the cameras themselves were so heavy one needed to stop filming to rest. I dunno exactly, but even the 8mm film my dad shot of me and my sis as kids is the same, you can always see the stops and starts through it. ...And nothing against rocky Raymond and many thanks to him for filming all this stuff, but if these versions are without his commentary I’ll enjoy them more.

The video quality in the clips are very impressive.

I think I remember seeing Steamboat vs. Haku at MSG around then. Could be mistaken.

Baba should be mentioned if he hasn't been already. He was unselfish in the sense he had the smarts to book himself lower on the card as his skills diminished, something lost on a lot of North American bookers through a similar time frame.

You must have been a Power and Glory fan too. First team I thought of when you brought up the Power guy/smaller wrestler (although Roma was getting bigger by the year as I recall) That tag team should have had a better run than they did, and I think they would have had they been created a couple of years earlier.

If the Flair stuff was sent to the Savoldi's on tape to be shown on their TV, then they can use it. At least that's how it used to be. I checked out the Greg Valentine one on there a few weeks back, kinda cool, a bunch of smaller scale matches that aren't common. I'll be checking the other titles out as time permits.

This thought made me hope someone high up at Peacock tells the WWE "GET ME MORE CLASSIC CONTENT FROM THE 60's - 80's PROCESSED ASAP!!" and the WWE does it, since they won't care if it boosts subscriber numbers. lol

Understood, of course, I just hate having to fiddle around when if I didn't have to.

Am I right in understanding that the Network offering as a singular channel stays as-is in Canada? I'd kill to get the Peacock network here and tie into that deal. The Canadian version has always blown by comparison from day one.

lol if that's the case I've been stealing it since I learned how to write.

Yeah, pop the house on your first foray into the area and then the number mostly declines until you hit a number that works for you (and hurts the opposition on a regular basis). That's a far different strategy than trying to sell out MSG or Philly on a monthly basis.

I always feel like I'm taking 10,000 words to make a ten word point.

I don't think so, since Hogan was as well known in the AWA as he was anywhere else before he jumped to the WWF. The AWA was losing attendance as rapidly as the WWF was in the Minny market by the time Hogan-Jesse drew that 5500 number noted above. The local flavour that was lost as the WWF expanded into every big market hurt attendance more than anything else. Your monthly gang of wrestlers appearing at the big arena was an invitation to see things happen that would be reflected as major in your own territory. The New York based WWF wouldn't be able to offer much in terms of "would something happen that would reflect on the big WWF meter at OUR show?", and I think that slowly killed attendance no matter who was on a card. I can watch Hogan defend the title on a national TV show like SNME, and the expectation that something major affecting the entire balance of the WWF title scene happening was real. A Hogan title defense once per four or five months at the St. Paul Civic Center, or Reunion Arena in Dallas, or another large venue outside of their power base, offered no such drama. The transition to the WWF Superstars being the draw wasn't all it was cracked up to be after their initial appearance in a lot of those towns. In that sense, they were fun to see once but you weren't married to their return appearance since nothing major was likely to happen, especially if you could just stay home and watch their regular TV or SNME or that newfangled PPV which always had something important happening. So why didn't the local companies continue to draw in light of that? The stripping of talent by the WWF for their own expansion and the loss of TV in many markets by the local companies hurt them a ton. The WWF, a national, easily seen, entity with a repetitive mantra of being "the biggest and best", settled into an attendance number that worked for them, and those fans were the ones that simply preferred the product to their local one for whatever reason, no matter who was on the card. A Hogan appearance might spike it some but they didn't need to have him there monthly as the company had their number that they were good with. Drawing 5500 in Minny wasn't as big as you would think, but if 3000 of those people went to that show INSTEAD of the AWA show the same month, mission accomplished. Meanwhile the local company lost a section of their base, and the talent to keep the base that they still had became more difficult to hold onto, and growing new talent became a challenge...less time to build them, and when they were big, guess who came along with the bucks to take them from you? Sorry for the wordy answer, it's hard to encapsulate the divide and conquer layers that the WWF had in the areas they came into. Bruno, in his monthly circuit, drew great with the WWF formula in those areas. Hogan didn't have nearly the same steady compact circuit to become the same kind of draw, but the WWF was willing to forgo that to make him the National and International star that he was. They had an Apples-to-Bananas kind of run to compare.

Considering he announced tv for so many years and saw how Arnold Skoland was successfully used, if he’d have really wanted one bad enough he should have been able to figure it out.

Wanz over Bockwinkel!

I jumped around that channel when I saw this and saw that match and grabbed it immediately. Glad I did if it got pulled already, must’ve been just after I grabbed it. fun channel!

On youtube, they often break down the segments of the Drive-Thru into specifically titled pieces, so you can pick and choose a lot of what you want to listen to. Much easier to pick out things that might interest you or that you know won't that way.

Lolololol

Along with that, the Cornette/Stacy Stuff is bizarre and it will be interesting to see how many former OVW wrestlers/employees end up corroborating the claims, since it is claimed the behavior was well known amongst OVW employees and alumni.