JerryvonKramer

I do like a bit of brutality mind. Think I will review matches on Alan's playlist later, even the Virus ones.

Battlarts and Futen are very much hybrid shoot style promotions. Shoot style is their base but they incorporate pro style moves in more realistic ways. Ikeda specifically is known for being probably the stiffest worker ever. Battlearts reoccurred a lot on the lists of Childs, Chad and Charles, and clearly with him ranking #100 a lot of people are high on him, so I might watch some of this stuff when I start watching wrestling again. Your description and what I've heard sounds vaguely promising, and I'm wondering if it's more accessible than the dryer-than-paint-1990-UWF type stuff I tried to watch whenever it was or than Volk Han etc.

So if he isn't a shootstyle guy, what style is he? I might check him out.

Even though there are many more talented workers below him in the list, Kerry still doesn't look "wrong" at 98.

Ikeda is not a shootstylist. I thought BattleArts was all shoot style. Sorry if mistaken.

List seems to be mainly shoot-stylists and midgets so far.

I had a dream last night that I was talking to Will on Skype and was telling him how I thought that GWE was a really terrible and distorting prism through which to watch wrestling, and how I'm really relieved that we are almost done with it. Then I woke up and thought "fuck me, I've spent too much time on the board recently". And then I immediately checked the board on my iPad. FML. Back to work tomorrow.

Was just chatting on Twitter with some of the British dudes, and it occurred to me after someone pointed it out that the little parody of academic conventions I was doing with the acronym probably went missing. See, in the British parlance, a toilet or "rest room" for some of you polite Americans, is also known as a lavatory. So BIGLAV was a little joke see. Admittedly not a terribly funny one, but it didn't occur to me until today that some people might not see or get it. I lose track of which words are and are not used in the US. Apologies also if you did get the joke and just thought it was so lame it didn't bear commenting on.

I haven't set limitations, I've just said I'm completely unbothered about how many there are. If saying Lapsed Fan are in competition with Place to Be is "throwing shade" at them, I don't really know what to say. Despite your efforts at shit-stirring here, Bagwell, I've had good relations with Scott and Justin for years now: they came on the show back when we did Starrcade 88, and I like to see that joint show as the spiritual birth of Place to Be Nation. Although in reality, it happened much more because of a ton of vision and work by Justin, Chad and Brad who never really get their due -- even now -- for the hours they put into the site. And it is clear that there are different audiences without casting any aspersions at all. I have detailed analytics that show me that even the audiences for the PWO-PTBN shows aren't all the same. Some people listen to every show, some people listen to only one or two shows. The audience Titans pulls isn't the same audience that AJ Excite pulls. The audience Zellner has is made up of people not only from here but also from further afield -- he posts the show in more places, he has a following in other places, as does Bix. Will often brings a different set of ears to the feed too. I can see that WTBBP is often a gateway show when people first discover the feed. It's 2016 and data analytics are pretty damn detailed. I am interested in them cos I'm nerdy like that, but I maintain -- and anyone who has ever done a show with me will tell you this -- that I don't care if it's 10 listeners or 1,000. Don't your Lapsed Fan dudes -- the ones who spent 30 minutes of one of their Starrcade reviews reading out this post in a silly voice and shitting all over it (top top podcasting there chaps!) -- also say that? Anyway, your attempts to sow seeds of discord in The Nation have failed Bagwell.

I lost many an hour reading stuff from that project, especially when researching Dory stuff. If anyone finds it, might be an idea to try to preserve it somewhere.

I didn't really think about what he did at all when watching matches back and I honestly didn't think a lot of the work stood up that well. I did rank him because he was so mechanically sound and one of the best guys at executing moves, but I said before that I'm convinced his ranking would have fallen a good bit had that never happened; I guess we'll never know.

I was quoting Clint Eastwood.

His late 70s tag team run with Dominic Denucci is underrated.

I think part of this comes down to where you were as a fan in 2007. I was completely out of it, not since late 1995 had my fandom ever been at a lower point. The introduction of the spinner belt, the increasingly generic product and so on, all served to kill my fandom dead around mid-to-late 2005. I remember watching the Rey and Eddie feud, and Eddie dying, I limped on into 2006 although I was no longer watching RAW and SD religiously. I recall catching Flair's rant on Carlito in early 2007. That was one of the last times I sat through a whole RAW. But really I had been done a good bit before that. By the time the Benoit stuff happened I was barely even checking news sites let alone watching. Wrestling felt so far away from anything I cared about. I registered it happened, but I wasn't posting anywhere, I wasn't reading anywhere, and the most effect it would have had at that time was to make me want to shun the product even more. Not only was Eddie gone, but Benoit was whitewashed from history for reasons too horrible to think about. But not being around meant I didn't live through the shared emotion of it all. I felt very distant from it all. When I started getting involved with wrestling again in 2009, it was as an old-school-only sort of fan. And that brought me here eventually. And I think that's why it has no real effect on how I think about him. My timeline as a guy who followed "current wrestling" had kind of ended by the time it happened. I reckon if it had happened just a year or so before, when I was a lot more invested in what was going on, I might feel differently about ranking him.

I've just realised Canadian Strongman Dino Bravo wasn't nominated.

Probably the best ever at sitting up.

"See these things I don't like? I'm just gonna keep shouting about them while totally ignoring anything you say to prove how right I am" If you look back on my posts I've said nothing of the sort.

I'd love reviews of 1. IRS / Kama feud and matches 2. Taker and Big Show tag run 3. Dudley Boys feud And then those ones I picked out from the 00s.

For me the mark of a truly great worker is to count how many Wrestlemania moments they've had.

When was Undertaker's peak?

Where do people go on the Mr. Kennedy match from No Mercy 2006? How about the match with Kane at Bragging Rights 2010? What are your views on the encounter with Muhammad Hassan at Great American Bash 2005? I am keen to hear opinions on the match with Sycho Sid at Wrestlemania 13. I'd like to see evaluations of his bout with The Big Show at Cyber Sunday 2008 Or how about the match with Rob Van Dam at Vengeance 2001? I'd like to hear more about these terrific match ups.

In another incredibly memorable feud, The Greatest Manager of All Time, Paul Heyman, got The Dudley Boyz, of ECW and The Attitude Era fame, to kidnap Paul Bearer. In a remarkable turn of events, custody of Bearer ensured that Heyman now had control of The Master of Pain. At the never-to-be-forgotten Great American Bash 2004, The Deadman had to face The Dudleys two on one in a Handicap Concrete Crypt match to stop Paul Heyman burying Paul Bearer in cement! Yet another classic match for the ages that people will be talking about for many years to come.

The memories are flooding back. Who can forget when the Phenom joined forces with the Giant Big Show! The Unholy Alliance were a force to be reckoned with in the tag-team ranks of WWE competition! After a classic encounter with the Undertaker's brother, Kane, and his partner X-Pac at Summerslam 1999, the fearsome duo captured the tag-team gold. They would lose the titles a week later in another incredible bout against the Rock 'n' Sock Connection, The Rock and Mankind. But in an AMAZING twist would win them back only a week after that in a BURNED ALIVE match that we will never forget. Just another month in the amazing and legendary career of The Undertaker.

Was just reminiscing about the legendary Taker vs. IRS feud from 1995, which saw Irwin digging up Undertaker's coffin for the express purpose of making him pay his taxes! The Deadman showed the Taxman a thing or two about that when the two superstars settled their differences inside the squared circle. But Irwin would have the last laugh as his evil stable-mate, WWE Hall of Famer Kama, stole the Undertaker's precious urn and had it melted down into a chain. The two legends went on to have a string of classic matches.

http://www.wwe.com/inside/top-25-undertaker-moments Man, I wish I could have all of these on one DVD. That would be awesome!