Ricky Jackson

Well, Austin lost the match that made him a babyface superstar, and several matches in the months leading up to it. Face turns in general dont come from winning streaks

I saw Goldust vs Stardust at a house show in early 2015 and it died a serious death before the crowd. I was kinda hyped for it too, but I remember them just going through the motions. Pre-ironic New Day vs the Ascension was greeted with even more derision. Main was Roman vs slacks-wearing Kane and we left before the finish. Weird card in hindsight

It was insane. Also the only WWF/WWE PPV I've ever been to (have been to one Takeover), so it couldn't have worked out any better

Main event of IYH: Canadian Stampede

Oh I agree. I remember I was only half watching at the end, glancing up thinking "Taker's going to kick out of a 3rd F-5? Really?". And then he didnt. But as you said, formulaic WWE booking usually gets in the way of good storytelling

It's interesting to debate the pros and cons of Brock ending Taker's streak now that we have some distance. It was definitely shocking in the moment, something you never thought was going to happen. Was it ended the "right way" by the "right guy"? Hindsight says no based on the well documented twists and turns that made the moment meaningless beyond remembering the initial shock and the mileage they've gotten from "eyes bulging out guy". The idea was supposedly to make Brock as strong as possible in order for Roman's win over him at the next Mania to be a huge star-making moment. Just writing that sentence and not bursting out laughing at the absurdity of it knowing how history played out was difficult. I think, in theory, they could've ended the streak the "right way" but because WWE is WWE it would only have been possible in an alternate universe where Vince didnt run away from booking like a wrestling promoter

I think the 2000 thing was going to be Hogan and Jarrett as competing World champs based on Bash at the Beach fallout, with maybe separate shows for each champ, culminating in a big unification match, but it all blew up before ever really starting? Or something

Probably not the best time

The last Tag Teams Back Again ep was Nov 2016. (I pulled the plug due to podcast burnout at the time. Planned on doing a finale in the summer of 17 but we never got around to it)

Yeah, but I was thinking more like Mantaur or the Berserker

I've been probably too amused in the last few days reading about the most ridiculous clowns from the Capitol storming, including Tazernuts, "Via Getty" and (to keep this PWO) the dude with the animal pelt, tats, and facepaint looking straight out of mid 90s WWF

It's not really an apples to apples comparison, as those promotions were part of an evolutionary process over several decades with different promoters in control of the same basic geographical area, catering to the same basic fanbase. LaBelle family promoting in LA was between 1940s-1980s, for example, with Mike's time in control maybe not longer than TNA/IMPACT'S existence, but it's not like he started a brand new promotion when he took over. Watts/Mid South broke away from McGuirk's many-decades established promotion. Shire started a new promotion, but San Fran was a long established wrestling town when he began running shows there. I dont know if you can draw a link from a specific promotion to TNA's founding in 2002, although in it's original from, based on who was involved and where it was based, it was very Tennessee-centric, and with a lot of dying-days WCW to it as well. All that said, it is very impressive/unbelievable that TNA/IMPACT has made it nearly 20 years. Much longer than ECW, even considering the evolutionary roots of that promotion. The AWA, a mostly fondly-remembered promotion with a lot of history, only lasted 10 years longer (although it evolved from a Minnesota-area wrestling tradition)

Surprised Bret's feud vs Owen seems to have been forgotten. It was his best imo. Austin a close second

From what I've seen, Dice is pretty much always 100% in character, so this isnt really unusual

I'm in basically the same boat. Back during my last major fandom peak 20 years ago I was an 80s maniac. Also went through quite a bit of 60s Marvel at the time as well, plus some DC. I would've gotten heavy into the 70s back then too, but reprints weren't yet plentiful and single issues were either spotty to collect in runs (just relying on local stores) or too expensive

Yeah, sorry dude. YouTube kicked us off and we ran the stream on Facebook. It's almost over. Happy New Year!

Back live!

YouTube shut down the stream 20 mins in boooooo

Hey all. If anyone is interested, myself, Johnny Sorrow and my pal Travis, plus a million guests, are doing a 5 1/2 hour Mystery Titans Theatre live stream/New Year's party watching a bunch of old school footage --70s Florida, 1980 LA, 1982 MSG, plus other random shit, mostly for laughs, but with some hidden gems. It starts around 7pm Pacific time https://youtube.com/c/JarvisWashingmachine Happy New Year!

One of the great wrestling legends, so far as the reverence his peers, old time fans, and historians afforded him, because unfortunately there is next to nothing footage wise out there. There are Florida clips from the early 70s, footage from the "Wrestling Queen" movie from 1973 and what else? His career ended after a car wreck in 1976. As a wrestler at OU he was truly legendary, even appearing on the cover of Sports Illustrated at one point. He was also a Gold Gloves boxer. Also known for having legendary strength. So, yeah, a legend RIP

Man, I absolutely LOVED that story during the peak of my Flash fandom about 20 years ago. "Be careful what you wish for, you might just get it" (maybe not the exact wording) always gives me goosebumps when I think about it. I never read the whole Waid run, basically missed the middle part, but remember enjoying most of it. If you stick through it to the end, I'd be interested in your thoughts on the final 20 odd issues. Kind of the 90s equivalent of the Trial storyline as far as being divisive Lately I've been plugging along with 70s Avengers, Defenders, and Tomb and quite enjoying it. Other than that, still going through Hickman's FF (good but drawn out) and reading random mini series like Longbow Hunters (quite good), America vs the Justice Society from the mid-80s (talk about making your eyes dry out from an avalanche of text), and Daredevil:Yellow (good not great). The complete 8 issue run of Ditko's Shade the Changing Man from the late 70s arrived in the mail yesterday and I'm planning on getting to that tomorrow. The art looks great. I'm a huge Ditko fan but I've never read it. I remember it being bargin bin fodder with not much of a rep when I was younger but after seeing some praise for it here and there in the last few months I tracked it down

Merry Christmas all. May the new year bring back real crowds at some point. I'm pretty much done watching wrestling, even old school stuff, but still enjoy hanging out here. God, I've become jdw. Except for, you know, all the long ass posts

Yeah, Jumbo was hyped like a first overall stud draft pick, to use a modern North American analogy. He was an Olympian and I think his debut got mainstream hype. Bruno Sammartino was working 2nd from the top at MSG underneath only megastar Argentina Rocca less than 3 months after his debut in Oct 59, and then main events tagging with Rocca by the summer of 1960

I sometimes find it hard to believe I cared about this company for so many years

Was trashing the board out of the blue really necessary? Stick to JR and any of your other pet hates