Ricky Jackson

Hey all. If anyone is interested, myself, Johnny Sorrow and my pal Travis, plus a million guests, are doing a 5 1/2 hour Mystery Titans Theatre live stream/New Year's party watching a bunch of old school footage --70s Florida, 1980 LA, 1982 MSG, plus other random shit, mostly for laughs, but with some hidden gems. It starts around 7pm Pacific time https://youtube.com/c/JarvisWashingmachine Happy New Year!

One of the great wrestling legends, so far as the reverence his peers, old time fans, and historians afforded him, because unfortunately there is next to nothing footage wise out there. There are Florida clips from the early 70s, footage from the "Wrestling Queen" movie from 1973 and what else? His career ended after a car wreck in 1976. As a wrestler at OU he was truly legendary, even appearing on the cover of Sports Illustrated at one point. He was also a Gold Gloves boxer. Also known for having legendary strength. So, yeah, a legend RIP

Man, I absolutely LOVED that story during the peak of my Flash fandom about 20 years ago. "Be careful what you wish for, you might just get it" (maybe not the exact wording) always gives me goosebumps when I think about it. I never read the whole Waid run, basically missed the middle part, but remember enjoying most of it. If you stick through it to the end, I'd be interested in your thoughts on the final 20 odd issues. Kind of the 90s equivalent of the Trial storyline as far as being divisive Lately I've been plugging along with 70s Avengers, Defenders, and Tomb and quite enjoying it. Other than that, still going through Hickman's FF (good but drawn out) and reading random mini series like Longbow Hunters (quite good), America vs the Justice Society from the mid-80s (talk about making your eyes dry out from an avalanche of text), and Daredevil:Yellow (good not great). The complete 8 issue run of Ditko's Shade the Changing Man from the late 70s arrived in the mail yesterday and I'm planning on getting to that tomorrow. The art looks great. I'm a huge Ditko fan but I've never read it. I remember it being bargin bin fodder with not much of a rep when I was younger but after seeing some praise for it here and there in the last few months I tracked it down

Merry Christmas all. May the new year bring back real crowds at some point. I'm pretty much done watching wrestling, even old school stuff, but still enjoy hanging out here. God, I've become jdw. Except for, you know, all the long ass posts

Yeah, Jumbo was hyped like a first overall stud draft pick, to use a modern North American analogy. He was an Olympian and I think his debut got mainstream hype. Bruno Sammartino was working 2nd from the top at MSG underneath only megastar Argentina Rocca less than 3 months after his debut in Oct 59, and then main events tagging with Rocca by the summer of 1960

I sometimes find it hard to believe I cared about this company for so many years

Was trashing the board out of the blue really necessary? Stick to JR and any of your other pet hates

Yeah, I mean I haven't watched AEW since pre-covid so I have no idea how bad Ross has been, but when it comes to the dive into a crowd of wrestlers waiting to catch spot, he isnt wrong. That needed to go away yesterday, it's been so overused

Where does it say he thinks it doesn't happen in WWE?

Yeah, I just read Death of Captain Marvel about a week ago and have the the same feelings as you OJ. Really well done. I'm so glad I read all the 70s stuff beforehand instead of just reading the graphic novel, as I've definitely considered it at various points over the years knowing it was so highly regarded. Say what you will about the Rick Jones character, the scene where he finally breaks down over Marvel's impending demise was very moving (Jones here was basically a Starlin surrogate, and the story overall was deeply personal, as Starlin's father had passed away from cancer I believe a year earlier)

It was Parv, Pete and I with the St. Louis retrospective show, SEVEN (!) years ago. Titans #11 I believe. I think I even asked you to join but you were busy. I've always enjoyed this footage. First saw it about a dozen years ago or so

Damn, @El-P on a podcast! Better late than never. Great stuff guys. Great to hear my old partner Marty all grown up. Working smarter not harder brother

I know footage of his career is sparse, but his 1979-81 run in WWF is out there and full of great matches, angles and promos. Check it out if you can. Feud with Sarge is of course an all timer RIP

Wow, if they've lost Kawada it's gotta be really bleak

I forgot about Benoit. He's truly been erased from history Plus, come on, "Cena sux" talking points in 2020?

Yeah, WWE history has hardly been full of big stars working snug, realistic offense. Like, Bret Hart and who else before Bryan? Even Backlund was pretty over the top. Austin turning heel drove away fans. Triple H on top drove away fans. Whatever the fuck mess they've been putting out for the last 5-6 years has drove away fans. Cena on top didnt drive away fans. I think fans actually liked going to shows and booing him, even though they bitched about how much they hated him and that someone else should be on top all the time. I guess he was a heel after all

That would get me watching wrestling again

Sounds like it's a mix of UWN footage fearuring NWA talent and unreleased stuff from the same tapings

Yeah, that's what it is

Victim of a slow decline and his career ending with a whimper. I remember Meltzer accusing him of phoning it in as soon as he became a megastar in 84 and then coasting afterwards. Not sure of this, but I'm assuming the 90/91 Iraqi sympathizer run was trashed at the time in WON. Outside of PWO and few other circles, not much love for Slaughter's early 80s glory days. JYD, Patera, Rich, Blackwell, etc are similar--guys who were huge pre-84 but are either forgotten or more remembered for sad last days by most fans

For me, "most today know little about" hopefully means Dom DeNucci

Oh, there's definitely a comics history subsection of fandom. TwoMorrows publishing is kinda the equivalent of Crowbar Press and has been my go to place to grab history publications. The American Comic Book Chronicles series is top notch. They put out decade by decade volumes that cover American comic book history, mostly focusing on mainstream comics but also with plenty of info on smaller publishers/undergrounds. I've only read the 70s volume so far but it was excellent. What I've seen of the other volumes looks great. Going to tackle the 50s next. TwoMorrows also has various ongoing publications like Alter Ego and Back Issue that are great for creator interviews and obscure bits of history. Fantagraphics books also puts out a lot of history publications. Just finished the excellent Fire & Water book on the career of Bill Everett Yeah, Man-Thing isnt amazing or anything. Definitely fun and wacky. Ive been putting off Son of Satan but may dip into it soon based on your recommendation. Also about to start Gerber's Defenders run and perhaps his Omega the Unknown, which is pretty far out stuff. In the context of a lot of mundane and mediocre 70s Marvel art, Starlin really stands out for me. It just feels like a fresh perspective, similar to Steranko, whom I've also always enjoyed, both despite a limited sample size. As I've been reading more and more 70s comics, one of the main themes of the decade is, because of the demands of newstand deadlines in a world where comic shops were just emerging and not large enough to make a difference in overall sales, Marvel and DC relied on speed freak artists (also writers), and a lot of the most interesting talent worked too slow, because they put so much into each panel. Guys like Starlin, Wrightson, Ploog, Smith, etc, would gravitate to poster work, paperback covers, advertising, independent publishing, where the deadline crunch was far less intense, plus they could make as much or more money than in comics, which overall were struggling sales wise compared to earlier decades. Some really great talent, like Colon and of course Kirby, could reliably make deadlines and produce high quality work, but so much of the Marvel and DC art from the 70s is very samey and rushed off looking. Starlin for me produced a real vibrant alternative compared to a lot of his peers in that environment

Come on @Loss and @goodhelmet create the sub folders. This is a great and unique place, despite being on the wrong side of history, surely this tiny bit of maintenance can be maintained

Right, well I guess wrestling history ended with August 2020 as far this place is concerned

Im not volunteering myself, but maybe some folks who are regulars and are invested can be granted mod powers in order to manage such things? Not to call anyone out, but a lot of the mods here aren't exactly regulars anymore