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BTW, re-reading my post made me wonder how the opposite would go well as a storyline for a wrestler. Where in a lead up to a match his/her failures at a PPV are spotlighted. Yeah that was the point of Big Show vs Cody at WrestleMania, and often it’s just a past singular, or series of matches against a specific opponent get brought up in match hype. Not to mention putting someone over is generally considered a good thing from a non-kayfabe standpoint. But usually win-loss records are only stated as “fascinating facts” in non-storyline or hype package situations. And generally sub .500 records are used to gently mock, such as Triple H at WrestleMania. IDK, I’m probably overthinking with the endless amount of “do rings matter towards an athlete’s greatness” debates in team sports and trying too hard to apply it to a storyline driven, pre-determined combat sport. *rolls eyes*

FWIW in “on the level” sports that’s akin to overhyping a player‘a ranking in all-time great discussions based on his/her performance in the postseason and “big games.” Yeah I know you can’t bring the same logic into pro-wrestling storytelling, but I’m sure that was their “logic” in making that a thing. And also, FWIW, are you suggesting that Undertaker’s Wrestlemania “undefeated streak” was one of the most silliest and most overrated things in wrestling history? Never mind the dreck Taker had to deal with before it became “special” and starting with the HBK matches it was one of a handful of matches he’d work in the calendar year. But it ended up being a central part of his gimmick for over a decade.

I’m waiting for proof via the booking sheet that “The Blue Blazer” was to win the IC belt the night he died. I could see Owen winning it on Raw the next night, coming out of “retirement” after Blazer got embarrassed the night before, or at the very least challenging Godfather for a title match soon. But considering the stunt that killed him was meant to end in a Flair Flop like comedy bit, I’m inclined to believe The Godfather was retaining that night.

And “Luthor” instead of “Luger” Though part of me wants to give a “no prize” to Rodman trying to equate his buddy Hogan as wrestling’s version of Superman, so any “Lex” would get a “Luthor,” especially with a similar sounding last name like “Luger.”

Someone did in 2016

Trying to find precedence in backtracking established kayfabe canon for the sake of keeping IRL separate “for now” Basically trying to see if there was a way in today’s kayfabe climate for the WWE to not reveal “Seth Rollins” as the father “Becky Lynch’s” baby, and keep their current heel and face alignment and storylines going. Even though every one knows Colby Lopez and Rebecca Quin have been an IRL item for a while now.

When did they admit Steph and Triple H were actually still a couple? Their characters divorced “for good” shortly before the heel turn in 2002, and Steph hasn’t used “McMahon-Helmsley” since. I don’t think there was anything related to them being together until the Orton/Legacy feud. I know preggers Steph did a bit with Shawn during the Shawn-Vince feud, but I don’t think they flat out in kayfabe said “Triple H is the father.”

One of the reasons I’ve fallen behind on Arn is that, especially on the “Ask Arn Anything” episodes, Conrad always seems to be more interested in getting new shirt ideas, or a quip he can tweet out for “internet buzz” more so than interesting podcast discussions. Often leaving low hanging fruit dangling to get on to something else*. Good to see that’s still his operating procedure when it comes to creating buzz for his programing. *i.e. I’d like to hear more about why, besides getting paid by AEW, that Marty Lunde has no desire to be a talking head on a WWE documentary or be on any like retrospective programing beyond the simple “no, thank you.” I know the answer but still, be a good 2-3 minute conversation about holding grudges, and if there was something that anything connected to the company could do to mend the fence, and if the answer could change years down the road.

Where would Bret-Shawn Montreal rank? Yeah it’s more about everything going in, and the aftermath than the match, and even the moment itself but still. Also by the same significance after the fact token, the title changes from Backlund-Sheik-Hogan are necessary (I put Backlund-Shiek in there, well because you need when the transition champion becomes said transitional champion). Dark horse pick for “in conversation”, Taker-HBK Royal Rumble 1998. Easier for a legit injured HBK to do the WM title drop honors, which in turn sets up the post Shawn DX.

LOL! Sorry, by lesser I meant Austin, at least as pre-Alliance “Stone Cold,” at least took on partners, begrudgingly. As opposed to Braun who shares Bad News’ hatred of having to be being partnered up with anyone.

Never mind that, don’t forget a few years ago the Raw tag belts ended up around the waist of a baby face version of Bad News Brown (not only doesn’t play well with others, doesn’t want to even be bothered with others) and a K-6 grade student that was plucked from the crowd. Kid then was “forced to vacate” due to his scholastic responsibilities! Hell a lesser version of a baby face Bad News Brown tried to go at recapturing the vacated tag titles alone, only to have a guy he previously declined the request to be partners for to help him out in the guise of a completely new persona! While this year’s was forced upon them due to circumstances, let’s not pretend goofier scenarios for tag teams have never happened!

I’m more concerned with if it’s because they know something, or it’s not cost effective to run blindly that they ceased operations and terminated all employment contracts.

Thought I’d sneak in and start one of these threads, especially since who knows what’s going to be airing, and when it’s going to air beyond tonight’s Raw!

Sara? The promo did seem like a one-time return of American Badass Taker. Plus you could say AJ brought her into the angle in the first place. True Cena did as well in a passing mention of who’s account you can see Mark Calloway photos in, but not to the extent where she’s being blamed for Retirement Taker.

WWE doesn’t own a copyright to “Television Title” right? So, what happens if/when they leave? It gets rebranded? What if they get a second TV partner that isn’t under the same umbrella as TNT? Do they only show the matches for it on TNT? Hell, ditto if it is the same corporate umbrella (TBS for example)?

Could be the only way the camera filming them picks up the audio

I was about to say Canadian and US travel restrictions, but doesn’t Brock live in Canada these days?

Never mind that it slipped my mind that Bayley is the Smackdown Champion, and the WWE isn’t going to accidentally spoil Go Home shows on their own website previews! *face palm*

They haven’t announced an IC, US, Cruiser or Tag matches? I suppose they don’t NEED to be on a card under the circumstances, as plenty of non-WM (and not counting the early Survior Series and Royal Rumble cards) haven’t had one or more of those titles not on the card, but it will be interesting to see only the big 4 belts being on the line for one card.

They mean Smackdown Women’s right? I mean I’d imagine they’d like the idea of Charlotte to be a multiple time winner of all the belts, but her character doesn’t strike me as the going back to obtain a “long since beneath her” title!

Or just do spots and lines from Rock-Mankind TOO SALTY! THE RICK DOESN’T KNOW WHAT THIS IS! Sorry, Mankind can’t come to the phone, I’ve got him all tied up right now!

He could also bring up their Ring of Honor runs as well.

Watching Vince with Susan St. James do segments, including a post match promo from Piper, from a Nassau Coliseum suite, with the arena darkened behind them was strange. I know people were still in the stands watching the Jumbotron, but the segments gave off the impression that they let the arena out. Yeah I know the lights would have all been on and you’d see workers taking the ring and everything WWF owned apart, etc, but it felt like a dark and empty arena. Wonder if there was a thought given to do it the way the two arena Starrcades were done. Alternating from each venue all day?

Davey Boy Smith official. Wish it was as The Bulldogs, but he did have an impactful singles run. Also the 1997 Harts are now the WWF version of the Dangerous Alliance, where all the members get in for other things.

Ironically last year saw the induction of two living persons in that category, one of whom was able to show up and give a nice wave!