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That is a star-studded main event right there. Benoit vs. Fulton would be a great match if all they did was punch/chop each other, much less all the other stuff.
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Perhaps "Abby tribute act" would be a better way to put it. They are clearly emulating the man in a lot of ways. I also love me some Abby, he was so good when he was motivated.
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(Originally airing in Spanish on WAPA Channel 4 in San Juan, Puerto Rico. This broadcast is translated to English where applicable.) The opening montage featuring highlights of Carlos Colon, Chicky Starr, Invader 1, Invader 2, Invader 3, Abdullah the Butcher, Hercules Ayala, Bam Bam and Dutch Mantell plays. Carlos Colon doing a cartwheel and coming up fists at the ready leads to the WWC logo as the music ends. NWA and Capitol Sports Presenta Los Campeones De La Lucha Libre Con Tus Luchadores Favoritos De Fama Mundial Rickin Sanchez and Hugo Savinovich sit smiling at the commentary desk in Coliseo Municipal Pedro Rodriguez Gaya De Catano. Rickin: Welcome to a very exciting and dangerous week for us here at the World Wrestling Council. Hugo: The monster! The machine! Abdullah the Butcher is HERE tonight!!! Rickin: That's right and we have a lot more. Both the Rock and Roll RPMs and the team of Jonathan Boyd and the Crusher will be wretsling tonight. Hugo: One week before their match to decide who goes on to face los Invaders in the tournament!! Rickin: A lot on the line next week, a chance to go to the semi-finals and a step closer to becoming the new NWA WWC Carribean Tag Team Champions. Hugo: The Rock 'n' Rollers better be careful tonight! Rickin: Yes they had better, because both of us saw Bam Bam in the bulding earlier. Barrabas has promoised to use Bam Bam as his "insurance policy." Hugo: Good policy there... Rickin: I...don't entirely disagree with what you are saying. Al Madril will be... Hugo: Joining us at the desk?!? Rickin: ...Yes. And he also has a match tonight. Los Super Medicos will also be in tag team action. El Profe will be bringing his protege TNT with him into Chicky Starr's Sports Shop. Hugo: I hope Chicky is nicer to Profe than he is to Barrabas! Rickin: We'll have to wait and find out. Chicky Starr does not like competition. Hugo: He HAS no competition!! Rickin: We will be talking to Gama Singh about the attack last week by TNT. Carlitos Colon will be at the desk as well. I imagine he will be addressing Chicky Starr's challenge last week. Hugo: And THEN!!!! Rickin: Our main event is a real treat tonight lucha libre fans. We'll have Invader 1 and Carlitos Colon in one corner and Abdullah Tamba and Abdullah the Butcher in the other. Hugo: With Bam Bam in the building!! Rickin: Yes, that is a concern. Hugo: Concern?!? I'm looking forward to that confrontation!! Rickin: We've got the Rock and Roll RPMs on their way to the ring and the crowd is very supportive. Hugo: They have really impressed so far! I think they have a small chance of getting out of round one of the tournament!! Rickin: I'd give them good odds to beat Boyd and the Crusher. Hugo: Remind me to never ask you for betting advice! Rickin: I know you like the team of Boyd and the Crusher, but I think the RPMs will surprise you with how well they do. Hugo: That's not why I give them a small chance... Rickin: I see. I don't entirely disagree with that point. Referee Ricky Vargas is signalling for the bell. Los Assassins vs. the Rock 'n' Roll RPMs The RPMs use their quick tags and teamwork to control the match. A double jumping clothesline to one of los Assassins nets a three count. Rock 'n' Roll RPMs by pinfall in 5:21 with a double jumping clothesline Barrabas is on his way out with Bam Bam and there is nowhere for the RPMs to go. Try as they might Lane and Davis can't overcome the big man. Bam Bam slams Lane in the center of the ring and hits two big running splashes followed by a splash off the top rope.A few stomps and Barrabas calls off his man. Hugo: I told you! Rickin: I know. This is not something anyone likes to see, except maybe Barrabas. Lane may not be in great shape for his match next week after that beating his ribs took. Hugo: Like I said, a small chance. Rickin: But there still is a chance. Davis and Lane are a good team and we'll see if they can overcome this setback. We have Chicky's Sports Shop up next followed by Jonathan Boyd and the Crusher in tag team action. Don't go anywhere fans. (Commercial Break) 0 - 9:00 Rickin: We're back and Hugo would like to tell you what time it is. Hugo: It's time to pay a visit to Chicky Starr in the Sports Shop!! The Sports Shop intro plays. Victor hands Chicky a microphone on the set. Chicky: Welcome to my Sports Shop ladies and gentlemen. I had a thought after last week. When wrestlers go to the ring they are introduced. Since my Sports Shop brings in more viewers than any match involving somebody like...let's say los Super Medicos, or Invader 1, I should get my own introduction. Victor, next week you introduce me! Victor nods and Chicky smiles. Chicky: We'll talk some details later. This week my guest is another newcomer to the WWC, a man who has made a big impact in only a few weeks, TNT. He is managed by a very smart man and a personal friend of mine, El Profe. Come on in gentlemen. Profe and TNT come in and sit down. Chicky: Last week your man TNT attacked Gama Singh after his match. Why Gama Singh? Profe: Because he was the first man out there. He was just the first unfortunate victim of this man, TNT. TNT is a master of tae kwan do in addition to an excellent wrestler. He has shown both in his short time here and I thought it was time that he got the respect he deserved! Chicky: He left Gama Singh laying in the ring foaming at the mouth. I used to associate with Gama Singh, before he and I no longer agreed on a lot of things. I was very happy to see Singh being helped from the ring because he couldn't leave himself. I've heard some talk that TNT could not do that to Gama Singh in a fair fight. What is your response to that? Profe: First of all, what is a fair fight? Chicky: Hah! I can't remember the last time I had one! Profe: Exactly. But I can see what people are saying. TNT attacked Gama Singh without Singh really knowing it was coming. Which begs the question, why wasn't Gama Singh paying attention? Chicky: I wonder that kind of thing all the time... Profe: But I'll be fair. February 22nd in Guaynabo TNT will challenge Gama Singh to a match. If Gama Singh has any brains in his head he will decline. TNT could have done some real damage last week if he hadn't been run off. Chicky: I can gaurantee you that he will accept the match. Profe: All the more fun for us. TNT gets to prove his point. Again. I get to watch as an imbecile gets permanently injured for his stupidity. Chicky: I'm looking forward to that! I'd like to thank my guests this week, El Profe and TNT. They are a combination that will take the WWC by storm! Next week I'll be talking to...you don't really need to know do you? This is the best part of the show, so you'll be watching! El Profe, TNT and Chicky walk off the set with Victor following. Cut back to the arena. Hugo: It IS the best part of the show! Rickin: I'd like to know how El Profe thinks what happened last week proved anything. Hugo: Gama Singh did look pretty bad... Rickin: You're just waiting for me to walk into the next part aren't you? Hugo: Yep! Rickin: (Shaking his head.) Barrabas is leading Jonathan Boyd and the Crusher out. The garbage is flying, as usual. Hugo: These fans are so fickle! They should be saving it for later when Chicky comes out!! Rickin: I thought you didn't like it when fans threw garbage. Hugo: I don't! But a little bit of consistency would be nice!! Rickin: I'd say Barrabas and his men are right up there with Chicky when it comes to raising the ire of the fans. Hugo: That's true... Rickin: I can't say I blame the fans for either, especially after that attack by Bam Bam earlier. Hugo: Did you notice how Boyd and the Crusher were nowhere near the attack?!? Rickin: I did. I suppose Barrabas will tell us they had nothing to do with it so it can't be held against them. Hugo: It makes sense! Rickin: I suppose it does to some. Referee Tomas Marin has called for the bell and here we go. Los Tejanos vs. Jonathan Boyd & the Crusher w/Barrabas Boyd and the Crusher brawl and muscle their way to control. A short comeback is halted by a Crusher clothesline. He grabs the Tejano and Boyd hits the three point stance clothesline for the win. Jonathan Boyd & the Crusher by pinfall in 5:17 with an assisted 3 point clothesline Hugo: Big win going into next week! Rickin: Both teams with big wins, but one isn't being assaulted after the match. Hugo: Maybe the Rock 'n' Rolls need bigger friends!! Rickin: To keep Bam Bam from doing what he did, yes. To attack their opponents, I don't think so. Hugo: Every little bit helps! Rickin: It's that kind of thinking that gets men hurt Hugo. And it's not necessarily always the people who try to go by the rules getting hurt. Hugo: Very true!! Carlitos Colon and Invader 1 have been known to go a little far in their paybacks! Rickin: Yes, and that is something people like Barrabas should consider. Up next we'll see Al Madril both..at the desk...and in the ring. Right after these messages. (Commercial Break) 9:00 - 17:00 Rickin: We're back and I have been joined by....yes, Mr. Madril? Madril: Oh, sorry, too close? Rickin: Last week I talked to Hercules Ayala and he had a challenge for you. Madril: Did you see how red that guy's face got???? That was great!! Rickin: I'm not sure that's something I'd be happy about. You need to take him very seriously. Madril: Concern? I'm touched Mr. Principal. I didn't think you cared. Let me tell you this though. That big musclehead couldn't beat me in any match either of us came up with. I've been runnin' circles around him since he started yellin' at me. So I'm going to be nice. He likes that reverse figure four to finish guys off yeah? Rickin: If you're going to do what I think you are, I would advise you against it. Madril: Like I said before. I'm touched. But do me a favor and shut up and hold the microphone. You can't beat me, Hercules Ayala. So I'm challenging you to a submission match. When I beat you on February 22nd in that match, you may as well just pack up and leave. 'Cause if you can't make me submit, what else you got, big man? Oh, and I know you said you don't want the title. But it's up for grabs anyway. I'm THAT sure you got nothin'. Madril walks off, gesturing lewdly at a few of the female fans on his way. Rickin: Al Madril with what I think is a major miscalculation. Hugo: I don't know, Al has a pretty good Indian deathlock! Rickin: I don't think I would be playing to my opponent's strengths when he is as focused as Hercules Ayala is. Hugo: Yeah, he definitely was a man on a mission when we last saw him. This will only add fuel to the fire. Rickin: I couldn't have said it better myself. Madril seems to be stopping to harass every woman he sees on his way to the ring. Hugo: A few of them seem to like it!! Rickin: I'd say not as many as Mr. Madril would have us believe. Hugo: You know, I've heard stories!! Rickin: So have I, and they are stories. You tell lots of stories too Hugo. Hugo: Some of them are true! Rickin: I'd believe yours before Al Madril's stories. He's attacking Armandito Salgado before Eliud Gonzalez can finish the introductions. Armandito Salgado vs. Al Madril Madril works over Salgado's leg most of the match and stops a brief comeback with a series of kicks to the injured leg. An Indian deathlock gets the victory for Madril. Al Madril by submission in 4:30 with an Indian deathlock Madril refuses to let go, but an enraged Hercules Ayala charges the ring. Madril scrambles to get the belt or any kind of weapon but is caught without one. Ayala with a fiery series of punches, but Madril hits a low blow that allows him to escape. Rickin: It is looking more and more like Madril has bitten off more than he can chew. Hugo: He'll have something up his sleeve! Rickin: Not everyone needs to have something up their sleeve Hugo. Hugo: Like I always say, every little bit helps! Rickin: You do say that, yes. We have an interview with Gama Singh coming up, as well as los Super Medicos in action. We'll be right back. (Commercial Break) 17:00 - 25:00 Hugo: Welcome back lucha libre fans!! Rickin: (English) I am joined now by Gama Singh, who recently returned to Puerto Rico. How have you been? Singh: I've been well. I missed the place while I was gone. Well, mostly. Rickin: Things like last week are...not as infrequent as we'd like. Singh: No they are not. And I used to be a part of all of that. I am so happy that los Invaders, carlitos Colon and most importantly these fans were able to forgive me for that. Rickin: I think you'll find that our fans are very forgiving once you align yourself opposite the right people. Singh: They are. And they are probably some of the most passionate fans in the world. Believe me, I know. Rickin: I'm guessing you heard the challenge from El Profe earlier? Singh: I did. I am 100% ready to take on TNT THIS week, but if I have to wait until February 22nd, so be it. You know what I don't get about guys like El Profe? He wants to think I should be afraid because a man attacked me from behind. He wants to call me stupid for not seeing it. I'll give him a little of the second. But what has El Profe himself done to warrant all of that talk? Rickin: I'm afraid that is something else we see far too much of from certain managers. Singh: Now don't go getting yourself into trouble for me. If it were TNT talking to me like that, I might understand. The man is a very dangerous opponent and has multiple ways of hurting you. But we have yet to see anything from this El Profe that makes me think he's other than a coward. Rickin: He claims to train with TNT, so he might actually be good. Singh: He might. Just let it be known that if he gets involved in this match on February 22nd there will be consequences. Rickin: Thank you for your time Gama Singh and we look forward to seeing you again. After a handshake Singh leaves the interview area. Hugo: There is another match for February 22nd! That is shaping up to be a great card!! Rickin: And it could be even bigger after our next interview. Hugo: OH!! WOW!! Hey, here come los Super Medicos!! Rickin: The crowd is happy to see them, as usual. Hugo: They had better be watching themselves! Rickin: I think they've been around long enough...and here come all three of los Invaders to ringside right behind them. Hugo: Smart move!! Rickin: You have to think Chicky has los Mercenarios at the ready here. Hugo: I'd be willing to bet on that! Rickin: Which makes me think there is no doubt about it. Here is the bell. Mr. X & Mr. Y vs. los Super Medicos Super Medicos with punches and some technical wrestling to control. Medico 1 with his patented punch combination (seriously, top 5 ever puncher) to cut off a comeback. Medico 1 with a falling slam and Medico 2 hits the ropes for a senton that gets the 3 count. Los Super Medicos by pinfall in 5:26 with a slam/senton combo Rickin: No sign of los Mercenarios or the Starrs, so it looks like we're safe. Hugo: Good move by Chicky to fight another day! Rickin: Good move by Chicky to follow the rules, even if we both know he would have preferred to cheat. Hugo: Always! Rickin: We're moments away from an interview with Carlitos Colon. After that we will have our big main event. Don't go anywhere, you don't want to miss this. (Commercial Break) 25:00-33:00 Rickin: I am now joined by a man who needs no introduction. Carlitos, it's always a pleasure. Colon: Same to you Rickin. I know a lot of these people here are fans of mine, but I am a fan of yours. Rickin: There's no need for that, now. We have business to attend to. Colon: Always right to the point. That business involves myself and Bruiser Brody? And probably Chicky Starr? Rickin: That would be it. Colon: You knew my answer as soon as the challenge was made. Of course i accept the match! The crowd erupts. Colon: And Chicky Starr can come to ringside. It didn't hurt me that much last time. I've been fighting Bruiser Brody a long time. It's always a hard fight and it takes me a good week to recover. But these fans here love it when I defend the NWA WWC Universal Title against a worthy challenger. And Bruiser Brody has always been that. Rickin: Yes, no matter who was managing him. Speaking of worthy challengers, you have a very difficult match tonight. The kind of match usually reserved for nights like February 22nd. Colon: Oh yes! This match tonight is something we normally don't do here, but I'm glad Commissioner Pedro Castillo made it happen! Abdullah the Butcher is a man, if I can call him that, that I have faced many times and it doesn't seem like he is going away either. Tonight is just another battle in the ongoing war. Rickin: A war that has gotten more complex with the addition of Bam Bam. Colon: Barrabas and Bam Bam are wild cards. They don't like either myself or Chicky. So whose side do they fall on, if any? It's something that myself and los Invaders will need to stay aware of. Tonight though, we are going to send a message to Chicky Starr that we will not be intimdated! Invader 1 and Carlitos Colon will stand up to anything that you put up against us! Rickin: Thank you for your time, Carlitos and good luck out there. Colon and Rickin shake hands. Colon heads down towards the ring with Invader 1 walking down the ramp. Rickin: Carlitos Colon seems like he is well aware of the dangerous situation developing here in the WWC. Hugo: He better be! Now he'll have THREE monsters to deal with!! Rickin: Yes, but he will always have los Invaders as his allies. And those three monsters will very likely not be working together. Hugo: I don't know how Chicky is keeping Brody and Abdullah in line! When I managed Abdullah he would go crazy at the sight of Brody!! Rickin: That can't last. Hugo: I would have to agree! Rickin: Invader 1 and Carlitos are in the ring, along with referee Victor Quinonez. Here come Abdullah Tamba and Abdullah the Butcher along with Chicky Starr. Hugo: And the garbage... Rickin: You wanted this earlier. Hugo: Did I really say that?!? Rickin: Not in as many words, but you made it sound like perhaps the crowd should pick their least favorite. Hugo: Abdullah is getting angry!! Rickin: The crowd seems to have settled down a little. Chicky Starr is very pleased with himself now. Hugo: He still seems like he lets the crowd get to him. Rickin: Maybe if he cared enough he would start changing his ways. And the crowd would like him. Hugo: You always say that young wrestlers have to find who they are and be their own man! Rickin: I do, I'm just not sure that Chicky Starr behaves like a man. Hugo: Ouch! Rickin: Ring announcements are complete and there is the bell. Invader 1 & Carlitos Colon vs. Abdullah Tamba & Abdullah the Butcher w/ Chicky Starr This is an all-out brawl with Invader 1 ending up as face-in-peril. He is bloodied and makes a valiant comeback (including a punt to the nuts of Abby) to tag in Colon. Colon gets bloodied and fights through it against Abdullah while Invader 1 brawls with Tamba. Barrabas and all three of his charges run to the ring and Bam Bam attacks both Colon and Abdullah, bringing about the no contest. No contest due to outside interference at 11:49 The rest of los Invaders run out, as do Ron Starr and Al Madril. It isn't long until Hercules Ayala hits the ring and makes a beeline for Madril. Los Mercenarios come running out. Castillo & Perez are hot on their heels. Mike Davis of the RnR RPMs hits the ringside area, so does TNT led by El Profe. This brings out Gama Singh, who heads right for TNT. In the meantime between all of this it is a wild brawl with liberal weapon usage and over half the roster bleeding. Colon, Abdullah the Butcher and Bam Bam have been taking control of the fork back and forth with all bleeding. Chicky Starr and Invader 1 hammering away on each other's bloddy foreheads, Invader 1's face is completely red. Gama Singh takes a chair to TNT. Davis tries to get attacks in on Bam Bam , but gets shrugged off. Perez with a chain wrapped around his fist pounding a bloodied Mercenario 1's forehead. Rickin: I...don't even know what to say. Hugo: WOW!!!!!! Rickin: That covers it. I'm told Bruiser Brody will be in the building next week. And facing Invader 3. Hugo: FOUL!! FOUL!! Colon just hit both Bam Bam and Abdullah with low blows!! Rickin: We're out of time for this week. We'll see you next week fans.
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[1991-10-27-WCW-Halloween Havoc] Lex Luger vs Ron Simmons (2/3 falls)
dawho5 replied to Loss's topic in October 1991
I was impressed with both Luger and Simmons. They exceeded my expectations going in and got the crowd rolling by the end. Third fall was really, really good with believable nearfalls for Simmons up until the unfortunate tackle into the post. I'm not sold on the second fall finish entirely, but it accomplishes what it is supposed to. Race and Dusty add to the match without distracting from it, which I wasn't 100% expecting from Dusty. How did this match not make Simmons into a star?- 14 replies
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[1991-10-27-WCW-Halloween Havoc] Ron Simmons vignette
dawho5 replied to Loss's topic in October 1991
I won't argue one bit. Ron has been built awesome for this. If they had ran him through one or two guys with this same buildup to get him here, Ron could actually look like a World Champ.- 7 replies
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Russians/Roadies and Hacksaw and co./Devastation are both awesome feuds. Some great brawls just waiting to happen.
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The Paul E. stuff has been really well done so far. Must be some monster Eddie is bringing in.
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A quick glance at Cagematch to confirm the match date (Japanese matches are sometimes reversed on day/month) reveals headhunter B is actually Puerto Rican. This makes a ton of sense for more than one reason. Reason 1. Both guys go directly for the gimmick. If you have ever watched a gimmick match in PR, they don't fuck around too long before they start making for the thing they can hurt somebody with. Reason 2. They remind me a lot of smaller Abby clones with the way they wrestle, the boots, just the way they carry themselves. Anyway, they stab each other with glass a lot and use the barbed wire boards. Not a huge "deathmatch for the sake of deathmatch" fan, especially here. I found myself wondering why two partners would take the chance of maiming or killing each other in a match like this. And how they would be partners after. Then it occurred to me that if they are Abby clones, then they just want to go out there and maim whatever poor schmuck is right in front of them. So it works. Headhunter A busting a few pieces of glass over B's head is all kinds of holy shit dangerous. Eyes, nose, that could do some permanent damage if a big enough shard went the wrong direction. The fat guy flying spots were good. I actually liked the botch before the finish because it got over how ridiculously out of it you would have to be after taking that kind of assault. If you like deathmatch gore stuff for the sake of it, this is a pretty good match. From what I have seen of the Headhunters they don't really do much in terms of structure or great psychology, so these kinds of matches would definitely be their bread and butter. And they hug and make up post-match while beating up some poor bastard who comes out to congratulate the winner. So yeah, Abby clones.
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[2008-03-09-wXw-16 Carat Gold] Bryan Danielson vs Chris Hero
dawho5 replied to Loss's topic in March 2008
So this crowd really, really sucked. Go away. Get the fuck off the ring apron too. Indy-riffic announcing doesn't do this match any favors. Danielson's heeling is top-notch. Really liked the matwork and how it always went back to matwork until the finish. The escalation was good throughout. I didn't like the lead-in to the finish because they did that "I hit you-you hit me" thing way too long for my tastes. If you like that kind of thing, it probably helps the match. Both guys worked really hard and put a lot into this match. Psychology of the match is really well done too. It's just got way too much awful crowd and announcing and the finish is a little irritating without that, icing on the never again cake with the other factors. -
Well, I'd say Satanico would match up well too. But I can absolutely see either matchup as a really fun one that never got seen for Martel. That card had to send the Ontario folks home happy.
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I was a fan of the last two matches as well. Magnum is looking like a world-beater. Devils Duo and the Kiniskis are quietly keeping their feud going as well.
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So you did a card in a bar with Brody, the Moondogs, Ronnie Garvin and Dr. D involved? That works for me. Big card to kick it off and I like the names you brought in. At some point you need to bring in all of the wild, over-the-top brawl guys and have just a massive bar fight where the last guy not bleeding and still conscious is the winner.
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I really like the way the Nation is growing and people are coming together to oppose it. Waiting to see if the alliance of babyfaces can stay as united as the Nation. Main was great, as was the tag title defense. I also enjoy how Cornette is keeping the MX out of all of the bigger wars. Seems like a Corny thing to do.
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I watched the Ogawa vs. Hash match I was given and came away with mixed feelings. I think if you give it 3-5 less minutes it could have been something at least good enough on the wrestling level that the spectacle of it is more what you remember. http://www.dailymoti...m/video/x5b0bzc Below is the review thread. http://prowrestlingonly.com/index.php?/topic/29413-shinya-hashimoto-vs-naoya-ogawa-njpw-final-dome-101199/&do=findComment&comment=5829341
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[1999-10-11-NJPW-Final Dome] Shinya Hashimoto vs Naoya Ogawa
dawho5 replied to Loss's topic in October 1999
This was...something. There are a lot of parts I like, there are some issues I have with it as well. The good. Hash's early comebacks are really good. As is the dickery by Ogawa. I like how it is clear from the start Ogawa doesn't need it, so it only heightens the effect. Ogawa himself is actually an interesting thing. He's clearly out of place but not necessarily in a bad way. He's got this aura of badass to him, but is clearly not supposed to be in a wrestling ring. The first few STOs and throws were really good. The strategy by Ogawa is good. Picking yourself up off the ground over and over again is hard work. You get tired just doing that. If you're getting hit or thrown around it is worse. So when Hash won't back down Ogawa keeps putting him on his back and making him get up, because he knows Hash will. Then when the hands drop and no defense to speak of, lights out. The bad. I get this feeling watching Ogawa that he wasn't necessarily trained as a pro wrestler very long. Long enough so he could throw kicks to the back of the head and not kill a guy and that's about it. Not good looking kicks, but kicks nonetheless. Some of the "Ogawa doesn't belong here" comes in when different, more pro wrestling, situations come up and he just is unsure of what to do. The repetitive throws and selling really expose this. Did Inoki only train Ogawa so far on pro wrestling in order to make him feel completely different? It works, but it hurts the proceedings in ways as well. On the level of spectacle and getting over with the live audience, this was a home run. If you're looking at it as a match it's not very good as a whole. There are interesting and some good parts for sure. If you cut some time off of this it might be better remembered.- 12 replies
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[1991-10-27-WCW-Halloween Havoc] WCW Phantom and Paul E. Dangerously
dawho5 replied to Loss's topic in October 1991
I liked Paul E.'s promo a lot. Rude's not so much as I thought he was too over the top for Rick Rude.I am looking forward to seeing how this plays out though!- 11 replies
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[1991-10-27-WCW-Halloween Havoc] Steve Austin vs Dustin Rhodes
dawho5 replied to Loss's topic in October 1991
I was surprised by how good both were at building from matwork and telling a story. I did enjoy JR being sold on Austin already. Really good match that did show a lack of polish. But the combined experience of both guys should not lead to that good of a 15 minutes in the ring. If the crowd is a little dead, I can put some blame on the way they opened the show.- 10 replies
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I thought the attack looked great. My immediate thought right afterwards was, "how many Barry Windham matches are they going to show in the next few weeks on TV?" So I guess that lets you know how much WCW has been impressing me in 1991.
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I liked that everyone was trying to work hard and make this less of a dog than it could have been. Foley really wanted this to be a big deal, you could tell. That was all I liked. No fan reaction to Vader. At all. Was he even mentioned on TV in the lead-up? Ref-cam? One and done please. Putting that monstrosity in the center of the ring and handcuffing the wrestlers more than they already were? Great call on that one. Foley waiting on Steiner to put Abby in the chair was all kinds of stupid, but I guess we can chalk that one up to the crazy guy being nuts. All I'm going to say to finish off is that if i had bought a PPV for whatever Havoc cost and this was the first match I saw, I would never have ordered another WCW PPV again.
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Did Eddie make more money for this than he did working in Memphis? I liked some of the close-up stuff, not sure Eddie should be running around that close to fans with so much of his blood on him though. Eddie takes a couple of bumps and that's most of the good stuff. The one fan yelling at Eddie to go get his car was amusing and disturbing.
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[1991-10-26-WCW-Saturday Night] The Enforcers and Fabulous Freebirds
dawho5 replied to Loss's topic in October 1991
Here's my problem with this. You're presenting the Enforcers as these tough guy heels. And the Freebirds have been the most worthless tag team in the promotion as far as actually accomplishing anything in the ring without holy shit levels of stalling and cheating. But somehow they are equals? By that equation if the Steiners showed up the Enforcers would fold in less than 5 minutes.- 6 replies
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Embry's promo was really good and I like when he gets intense towards the end. Pritchard blows him out of the water though and I love him addressing the Piper stuff because he really has been trying to make himself not sound like that since coming to Memphis. Pritchard's promo is surprising in that it really has this "shoot" sensibility to it though i doubt it was 100% accurate. I wouldn't say Pritchard was in any way trying to sound like a milk drinker. He makes sure to say that he likes going ou, getting hammered and finding a lady. But the next day he's back to business, unlike Embry.
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[1991-10-26-USWA-Memphis TV] Jerry Lawler and Billy Joe Travis
dawho5 replied to Loss's topic in October 1991
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Both of the last two tags are matches I would go back in time and pay to see.
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Tenryu and Jumbo are for sure not finished. That end to their match guarantees it. Kensuke and Choshu in the same corner would be confusing.