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I liked Piper's promo on Flair a lot. He is really focused and brings up all the awful things he has done over the years. Good way to go for sure. Once Hogan is mentioned it kind of loses a little focus, then the whole Nasty Boys thing and it's back to ranting and raving for no reason Piper. But the first part of the promo before the break is grrreat!

I really liked the main. The team of Morales and Backlund is a nice counter to the iconic MACW team. Bolsheviks getting a win right after their big loss is a good tactic.

I would say the principals would have to figure out a matches/segments per week kind of a deal and how long they wanted it to go. Whatever the most busy person in the group could handle I imagine. And I'd say that there would be no real restriction to it. If a person had time for 2 or 3 and that many were going, why not? Part of my plan on this was that it is a very, very open process. If you can get 4 people or more on a topic, organize it and go. And if something comes up you like that you're not a part of, follow along. The idea is very much centered on making things more accessible that don't at first glance seem that way.

I recently had an idea for a series of projects (not all necessarily involving me) for the board. After talking to a few people about them it seems like there might be a section of people around who would be willing to do this kind of thing, so I'm just going to put it out there. We take the areas of wrestling that may not be that popular or understood: - World of Sport - Lucha Libre - Joshi - Shootstyle - Puerto Rico - lucharesu that isn't MPro If you can think of something else to add, great. We add it to the list of projects. And have a theme to the whole project, a goal in mind. My first thought was taking lucha libre and comparing and contrasting aspects of it with American wrestling. Something to give some perspective on the nuts and bolts and how it all goes together. Also I thought more abstract concepts involving wrestling would work: - My biggest idea here is look at 1988-1992 and how some careers, namely Sting, Pillman and Luger really got killed before they could truly start. Yet both Foley and Austin came out of the same place. Take a deeper look at how each was booked during all of the regime changes and what effect it had on them in the eyes of the fans. If you can come up with more names to add to that list or different projects in the same vein, again, throw the idea out there. Get one person who is extremely well-versed in the subject matter. Have three others at least dedicated to watching a certain amount of themed matches, etc. each week. These three people can have any level of experience on the subject. Post the reactions and discussions on the board and leave it open for anyone to throw in if they like. But with the caveat that you do not attack opinions or posters, you simply disagree and state your reasons why. Honestly having somebody who is a novice or not a huge fan of the subject matter makes a lot of sense. To me these projects are usually very good for intermediate and above on that promotion/style or whatever to follow along. But it can be very difficult for somebody relatively new to, for the sake of this argument, let's say WoS or lucha to really get into it. There are parts of it so different and it can be an uphill battle trying to process them while also trying to derive enjoyment from the matches. So with this idea, you have at least one person who is on that level involved and is struggling with it. It takes away that nagging thought that you don't want to be the stupid guy disagreeing with this person who clearly knows his stuff. And it gives you an idea on what you might like once you get used to how people react to matches. If a couple of people you know you generally agree with like a match, you are probably more likely to watch it. As I said above, my first thought was lucha libre. I personally struggle with trios matches that don't involve somebody I really like. The big matches between great workers like Santo, Casas, Satanico, etc. I'm all for. So maybe get some folks together and we go through a week of trios matches, then a week of title matches, then a week of apuestas matches. Follow that up with a couple of weeks on the development of feuds and then go into deeper stuff. I've talked to CapitalT a little about somehow integrating parts of this with GME and would welcome any thoughts on that as well. I've also been in contact with Boricua on getting one started on Puerto Rico. I'm open to any idea that we can start this thing and getting it rolling with. I think it would be a good way to first, have a good way of making some of the less known wrestling styles easier to get into. And second, have good discussions and get to know one another's tastes in wrestling a little better. So if you have ideas I didn't mention or liked something I put above, by all means call it out. Like I mentioned above, I don't think experience level with a promotion/style should hold a person back on this either. So there is absolutely no need to be shy.

So Eddie Gilbert is there, Owen Hart makes his return and you had that awesome 6 man tag as the main? That is a great, great show and I'm sure anyone attending went home happy. Despite Jacques losing...

Capital gave me this match: Superb lucha brawl between two guys who seem to know what they are doing. My review is here. http://prowrestlingonly.com/index.php?/topic/37907-el-satanico-vs-sangre-chicana-emll-052689/

I loved how they actually pretended like they were going to wrestle at first. Then Sangre headbutts Satanico after being backed into a corner. I liked it coming from the guy in the corner, esp. when you think Satanico is going to be the one to start it. Second caida starts awesome with Satanico begging Sangre to punch him and then acting like the punch damn near knocked him out. Have I mentioned the punches they throw in this are off the charts great? And yeah, Satanico's selling is top notch. Sangre good at selling the damage, but he can't compare to Satanico. I've read several times that selling is what makes a great brawl and this match should be front and center in that conversation. I also loved how Satanico had to work to get his comeback. You think he's got it once, but Sangre comes roaring back with more great punches. Third caida sees both wanting to box it out on the outside and the ref is kind enough to not count them out. Satanico's attack on the eyes is just awesome. I really liked the pace they kept up. It wasn't super slow, but slow enough to where when they both got inside and started throwing and things sped up it felt like a high spot. The ref has about enough when Dangre won't let Satanico up in the crowd and starts talking about a countout. Once he starts counting the fans get a little restless and start throwing things as Sanger and Satanico brawl around ringside. I formed this idea that these two had a big match this match was building to that had blood involved. Because I would pay to watch that match. If this was actually supposed to be a blowoff, yeah it didn't work.

I see it as an equality thing. Who am I to say that lucha and joshi, despite not really being that into them, are somehow lesser forms of pro wrestling and that the wrestlers who excel at them are somehow inferior to the people who do well at the styles I like? Even worse I could not include them at all and act like they don't exist. This is just my own criteria, not something I would apply to others. But for me I would have to treat all wrestling as "wrestling" and try to judge somebody like Santo or Breaks or Aja Kong on the same level I was judging their peers within their style. Otherwise I would be putting a very heavy bias towards the wrestling I watched into my list.

I like that you went from two wild brawls into the British dudes who will stiff the fuck out of you then the Bock match. Something for everyone.

I don't think that discussion ever got that far. But that is another of the more Japanese elements of the promotion.

I liked this more than the Flair match as well. Tito looked really scrappy against the clearly physically dominant Undertaker in front of a hot crowd. Could just be the Tito Santana fan in me talking too. But I also thought they stuck to a pretty good structure, minus the oddity of the Undertaker trying to put Tito in a bodybag. Shine, heat, comeback is there because it works. And this crowd definitely ate it up.

That Halloween Havoc logo makes me think they have the Warrior as a surprise guest....yeah, that's about how much I care about the matches I didn't already know.

Really fun few minutes, and a great guitar shot again from BJT. Hell, Embry's celebration was all kinds of awesome too. But I need more out of this after so long.

I enjoyed this a ton. I will note that this was included with the 10/5 USWA footage. You don't see a lot of these kinds of endings to feuds and they don't always work. But Davis and Dundee did well with it, like they did with the earlier segments leading up to it.

Yeah I don't think anybody thought that Lawler and Gilbert were going to stay polite and well-mannered through that whole thing. The whole unified title spiel is old news at this point and I tend to just ignore it. Line of the segment was lawler asking, "If I put on some tights with flames on them and started calling myself "Hot Stuff would I be copying you?" Great stuff there.

I really hope the payoff involves Eddie ambushing Embry with some kind of weapon.

You're not wrong. The WCW section was very good and I liked a lot of the info in there. But the book itself really gets rolling at the end and gets hard to put down. Well, up until that last little bit where you're wondering if there's even the faintest hope of a happy ending for somebody.

I saw the Morales stone and wondered myself. This is all way too fresh to be trying to turn it around. I'm not saying the promos themselves are bad. But the timing of them is just wrong. I agree that it should have been shelved for a few months first.

Good, quick promo from Flair on Piper. Knowing what we do about Roddy that may or may not be the best of things to say.

They at least keep this short. It's not overly good, but it's also not going to stick around long enough to be a problem.

I loved Eddie not being able to pick which side of his face Bagwell hit him on. Really great finish and it's awesome to see Eddie Gilbert again.

I get all the downplay of this match. It's the same tired Flair formula match that really doesn't belong on TV. So I chose to look at Santana and what he did with it. I'd say even though he was being phased down, he still had quite a bit left in the tank. He sold when it made sense, and well. He brought the fire on offense and made things look really good too. The flying forearm looked great, partially due to Flair. So while I would not say this was a hugely successful debut for Flair, it was certainly not a disappointment. Unless you were looking for a really spectacular in-ring debut for Flair.

I thought Tony's commentary was really good here as well. This gimmick really gimps Borne as he has to wrestle most of the match like he..can't? Anyway, good enough but it's not going to set the world on fire. Austin's diving clothesline thingy was pretty good.

Ricky Morton as a heel is surprisingly awesome. Brian Pillman as the plucky babyface is in no way surprisingly awesome. He's been great the last two years. They put on a really good match to hype up Havoc and then do the dumbest finish ever to make sure it's not remembered as a great match. I'll agree that the York Foundation really is well done. I would have never guessed Taylor and Morton were near as good as they were at being heels based on the majority of their work. Morton in particular is so good at changing the way he handles himself in the ring. I'm starting to think maybe he should get a serious look as a top 20 or 30 in the U.S. wrestler.

Ross really does a great job in this interview of trying to be as far away as possible from these two psychos and looking both scared and disgusted. Abby gnawing on everything he could get his hands on was pretty incredible. Mick's promo tops both, he really kills it and comes off as completely insane but still intelligent.