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After enjoying the way he's been used by both goc and Beast in the 1983 Project, I watched a Scott Casey match that I'd added to my Youtube list. This was from World Class against John Tatum, and was a steel cage match with Missy Hyatt (for Tatum) and Sunshine (for Casey) also in the cage (though not as competitiors). Fun match, Casey seemed like a solid brawler and I enjoyed him focusing on Tatum's shoulder by ramming him into the corner following a shoulderbreaker. Obviously, with two managers being in there, we didn't get a clean finish, but this was a decent way to spend 15 minutes.
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First name to pop into my head was Dustin Rhodes. You've got the Windham team from WCW, the BookerDust run (which featured one of my favourite redemption stories, with the "weak link" of the team finally winning them the tag titles) and the Rhodes Brothers team, who put on my WWE MOTY in 2013 vs Reigns/Rollins. I also think he's a guy you can slot into a team with anyone, and he's aware enough of tag psychology to make it work. He even had a short-lived duo with Snitsky that was better than you'd expect. He's also good at working tag as heel or face. Great FIP in both BookerDust and the Brothers, but also able to cut off the ring and work heel doubleteams. In the opener of Survivor Series last year, him and Cody are in a 4-way tag match, and they don't just cut the ring in half, they work over a matador in their quarter of the ring, doing their best to keep him from tagging out to anyone. Love that kind of stuff.
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Want to throw out a mention for Kevin von Erich. Was almost always the smallest man in the Von Erich/Freebird matches, but you wouldn't know it from the way he fights. Everything feels natural, like in the Badstreet match vs Gordy/Roberts, where he rolls away from some offence, whilst simulataneously removing his boot so he can leap back into battle using his boot on his fist as a weapon. Really great brawler.
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I actually would have kept the tag titles as a Raw exclusive belt. With the cruiser title staying on Smackdown, it means each brand would have a world title, a secondary title and a style of wrestling unique to that brand. Given that Smackdown would be the "workrate" brand in 2002, the cruiser title felt like a natural fit there. Meanwhile, the tag titles on Raw would let you make the most of the Outsiders whilst still healthy/useable. A Dudleys/Outsiders match could have been built to as a big deal (I'd still have split the Hardys btw), then you'd have a decent tag roster of Dudleys, APA, Billy & Chuck, Outsiders etc, who wouldn't necessarily put on the great matches that the Smackdown workers would, but would get decent reactions whilst you built up new teams (the soon-to-debut 3 Minute Warning, Jindrak & Cade and my EWR staple that never actually happened, Stevie Richards & Val Venis)
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Difference is that Cena's whole reign with the title has revolved around what a fighting champion he is, and how he'll defend the belt on a weekly basis. If he suddenly ups and leaves for a few months with the belt, it negates all that he's said.
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As a long time browser who only signed up in the first half of this year, I've actually been feeling more confident about submitting a ballot as the process has gone on. Plenty of people have been admitting their blind spots or styles that they just don't get, so it's stopped me feeling so concerned about the gaps in mine. The important thing for me is submitting a list that actually reflects my thoughts, rather than making sure I've got the "right" wrestlers high up. So I'm no longer concerned that Bret is still my working number 1, that I'm going to have Orton, Jarrett and Sabre Jr on my list, or that I'm going to have 3 Von Erich's in the top 50. As Grimmas said in the initial post, the fun part of this is the journey, and discovering guys like Jim Breaks, Crusher Blackwell and Steve Veidor, who I hadn't watched previously, is the big takeaway from the project for me.
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Only had time to check out Asuka/Dana before work today, but that was a really fun competitive squash. I'm pleased they didn't just totally job Dana out, instead presenting it as "Dana is good, but Asuka is simply better". Wasn't a huge fan of Dana doing a handstand moments after Asuka had worked over her arm, but that's nitpicking. The match also featured my favourite ever use of a "You F*cked Up!" chant
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The Table For 3 with Owens, Cesaro and Ambrose is pretty fun, enjoyed some of their travel stories from the indie days. Not sure how much of this was him trying to stay in character, but Ambrose eats like a pig.
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Well, Red has a nomination thread in the GWE folder, so he's got his supporters. There is a parallel with Mysterio, in that both were super-dynamic high-fliers who suffered knee injuries that caused them to slow down and become smarter workers. That said, much as I like Red, he's no Mysterio. Rey is a guy who could have good TV matches with anyone, and generally did over a 10yr+ WWE career. I mean, Red once got something watchable out of Petey Williams which is a feat in itself, but it's not a close comparison.
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The Rugby World Cup is Pro Wrestling
NotJayTabb replied to ButchReedMark's topic in Pro Wrestling Mostly
Stupidly, I underestimated train times, and elected to go and watch Coventry lose to Bury on Saturday, thinking I'd be home in time for kick-off. When it became clear I wouldn't be, I got my girlfriend to record it and went through a Likely Lads-esque mission to avoid hearing anyone talking about the game and ignoring the buzzing of my phone (which thankfully ran out of battery on my tram ride home). Such an incredible match, probably the best game I can remember watching. -
I'd love it if the WWE decided to make both Rotunda brothers into cult leaders of very different sorts of stables. I can see that being the kind of inside joke Vince loved. Giving Bo a stable of white-clad failed lower mid-carders as his Bolievers would be the perfect ying to Bray Wyatt's yang. You've got guys like Axel, Fandango, Sandow, Slater all as talented guys doing nothing at all....heck, you could even labour the joke by making a returning Rowan into a Boliever.
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The Rugby World Cup is Pro Wrestling
NotJayTabb replied to ButchReedMark's topic in Pro Wrestling Mostly
Given that the Rugby World Cup is Pro Wrestling, I'd book the upcoming Bayley/Sasha iron-woman match exactly like Wales/England. Valiant, likable face vs smug, over-confident heel. In the first half of the match, which has been close, the heel suddenly takes the lead. Despite this, she's not able to put her opponent away for another fall to kill the match off, with the face still going toe-to-toe with her. Early in the second half of the match (about 15-16 mins in), the face suddenly suffers a nasty injury, but fights on with guts and determination, winning the hearts of all-remaining neutrals. From out of nowhere, the face lands one big blow to level things up, sending the crowd into a frenzy. Even more amazingly, with 7 minutes left the face takes the lead! Despite this, with 4 mins left,the twists aren't over, as the heel gets the face in a prone situation. She could lock in a submission for a quick fall to level things up, but instead goes for a high-risk move that backfires, as the sheer will-to-win of the face causes her to get back up one more time and drive the heel out of the ring. The bell goes to show the end of the match, as the face stands tall. Match of the year! Match of the year! -
For me, Regal. I love both in the ring, but Regal's got more range as an all-round performer. Not only is he the better promo, but he's able to portray so many different roles whilst still being the same character. He's as believable as the fired-up face defending a helpless Eugene as he is as the megalomaniacal GM/King of the Ring, yet still authentic stooging about in disgust dressed as Paul Birchall's pirate wench. No matter what he's doing, he's an entertaining presence on TV. Finlay just isn't as magnetic, despite being a surprisingly effective face in the role of Hornswoggle's protector.
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Asuka's debut is one of those times I wish I'd not impatiently read the spoilers to find out about her debut. Everything I read basically said "Emma and Dana taunted her, Asuka left the ring looking sad", whereas the reality (Asuka turns round with a slightly sadistic smile, Emma and Dana look concerned in the ring) makes me think the heels have just signed their own death warrant. All in on Dawson/Wilder too. Such a good team, love the way they really seem to get tag psychology. Don't think any heel team in NXT cuts the ring off as well as they do, plus they've got a great finisher.
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They really should have kept him as a face. Vamp was getting really over in early 2000 by looking competitive against Flair and Luger, plus teaming with Sting, and he could easily have been their new homegrown face star (homegrown in as much that most fans in the US would only know him from WCW and not be aware of his lucha background). Turning him heel and adding in all the supernatural bullshit really ruined him.
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Who do you think should/will win the Royal Rumble this year?
NotJayTabb replied to ezgo's topic in WWE
As a main event, absolutely. If they decide not to put Reigns in the main event this year, however, an upper-midcard feud with Sheamus would actually work out really well for Reigns. Not only would the match be excellent, a potential MOTN, but Sheamus is one of the few guys guaranteed not to get cheered over Roman.- 73 replies
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The description of Paige as a "force of personaility" in her turn the other night is accurate, but also shows the big problem they're going to have in making sure she gets the right reactions. Namely that the faces she's just turned on are pretty much lacking in that department. As able as Charlotte and (especially) Becky are in ring, they've not really connected with the audience, and especially not as much as Paige, who is arguably the most over face in the divas division (Banks comes close, but isn't supposed to be a face). It doesn't help that the points she was making are, rightly or wrongly, points the crowd will agree with. Becky IS largely irrelevant, Summer HAS gone from wrestling to catfighting with Lana over men. How much influence John Cena had over Nikki Bella's title reign is unknown, but a large part of the audience will also believe that's the case, especially as Total Divas ensures that even the casual fan will know about their relationship. The fact Paige left to cheers instead of boos isn't surprising. It actually reminds me of 12 months ago at Survivor Series, where Paige was on a heel team against 4 utter no-mark faces who the crowd didn't care about (as I recall, Emma/Fox/Naomi/Natalya) and, even before she was left in a 4-1 situation, the crowd were cheering for her. She's actually retired, which makes this even more ridiculous.
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In sad BritWres news, Kris Travis has just announced his retirement on Twitter. He'd made his comeback 2 months ago after conquering stomach cancer, but he's had to cancel a few booking in the past week and has obviously had some medical advise that he can't wrestle again. Really sad, as he was a heck of a wrestler and could easily have transferred that onto an international stage. His matches with Devitt and Masters in PCW were both really well received and Project Ego (his tag team with Martin Kirby) have been arguably the UK's best tandem in the last couple of years. Massive shame, hopefully he's able to return to good health soon.
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Only really started giving this serious thought in June, but my working top 3 since then has been Hansen, Bret and Mysterio, but I'm not able to put an order to it. There are different periods of their careers I want to explore further which may help sort out the order (Hansen in PR, Bret in Stampede/Japan, Mysterio in Mexico)
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PN News carved himself a fine niche in Europe as Cannonball Grizzly, and was perfectly fine in ring. I think gaining more ring experience and shedding the horrible rap gimmick helped.
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Strangely, for all the talk of it not being a masculine form of music, in my experience cars that are pumping out booming techno are generally driven by #LADs, who gather in groups in the car park of my local supermarket and would probably hit me with an empty WKD Blue bottle for wearing a Smiths t-shirt.
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The thing with heel Bret is that for most of the world he never turned heel following the WM13 match with Austin. The Hart Foundation's anti-USA rhetoric kept them face with the rest of the world. You can see how popular they were in Canada at Canadian Stampede, and they were still getting cheered in Europe in mid-late 97 (helped by being paired against a natural heel in Michaels). For someone like myself, who didn't watch WCW in 97/98, and started watching again in 99, Bret didn't turn heel until NWO 2000, and that lasted 3 weeks before he retired.
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A combination of work, part time college and a 6 hour round trip to pick up the dog from the vet has meant I've not been able to get involved in this. However, I've got this afternoon off work, so I'm looking forward to getting stuck in.
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Always liked Mikey, was watching a "best of" comp the other day, and it reminded me how good he was in his role. Just took some fun ragdoll bumps, had suitably weak offence in his early days and realistically progressed into being an actual credible performer. Oddly, I think one of my favourite Mikey matches is his bout with Kidman from Uncensored 99. He seemed to relish being the larger, more physically imposing wrestler for a change, and just bullied Kidman, including a nasty bump into the steel railings. Dick Cruiserweight Bully Mikey Whipwreck feels like yet another missed opportunity in WCW. If I was submitting my top 100 now, he'd probably make the cut, but there's a lot of guys I need to do due diligence on that'll probably see him drop off.
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I really feel like Barrett would make a good partner for Neville at the moment. Aside from both being British, Barrett is a brawler to go with Neville's high flier, he's a great promo and, given the way he was written off TV, he'd have a plausible reason to want to side with Neville against the Cosmic Wasteland. Barrett has been a heel for 5 years now, and a face turn would freshen him up, especially as fans wanted to join in with his "I'm afraid I've got some bad news" sctick.