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Marty Asami in NJPW is much worse at it. He's ruining *every* nearfall if you notice him.

So they're bringing legit sport broadcasters to put over Alexi Bliss doing voodoo ?

Except me I guess, maybe because I don't have a fetish for Finlay, who's overrated as hell around this place. Maybe if he did a flip bump on enzuigiris it would have woken up the crowds during his matches in WCW where he never figured how to get over, the awesome worker that he is... (disclaimer : I actually like Finlay, I do think he's been overrated quite a bit to say the least though)

Come one, guys taking flipping bumps on enzuigiris are awesome, just like Rikishi or Hennig doing a full 360° flip on clotheslines.

Strap match with Sting. The second (I think) Takada match. Maybe Inoki at the Dome in 96.

Everyone involved in every Fast & Furious movies in the last 20 years should apologize.

Honestly, the show was done as early as the pandemic + #SpeakingOut combo hit. They were still producing "stuff" until Lagana got outed and putting stuff up on their youtube channel. As soon as that stopped, it seems the whole deal went awry. People were leaving left and right (Thunder Rosa really is a trooper, not to ask for her release for so long when she's been pretty much on AEW talent for ever now), the hype was totally deflated and the comeback with the weekly PPV shows from another company was a non-factor. Then this stopped, then deleting everything from their Youtube channel was a big mistake in term of perception to me, because I'm sure some people would have enjoyed to watch the older shows back, while (almost) no one would pay to watch weekly 45 mn TV studio show with no crowd (the interaction with the studio crowd was a big part of what made the product appealing to its fans, as it was trying to re-create, for better or worse, the old 80's feel of studio wrestling). When you add in the fact they have even less talent than they had during the first season (which really wasn't that much to talk about as far as I'm concerned) and they apparently do recap (of what ?) show every three weeks, yeah, that stuff was cursed. They got unlucky like everyone else during Covid and I guess Lagana was the brain of the operation. Still hope for Kamille to show up in AEW or IMPACT eventually. Aldis is a strange case because his entire gimmick/character is to be the NWA champ. I guess he could do that routine in either promotion, or MLW too, but it could only last for so long.

Yes, Shawn Spears after Cody called him more of less a really good hand, which jumpstarted the heel turn and the subsequent chair shot angle.

*facepalm*

Totally agree, this totally has a sectarian nature to it. There has been more of this during the pandemic too with the anti-vaxers/anti-mask and such. (although in France the anti-vax sentiment that was pretty high has refluxed since tangible results are now visible, so that's a positive thing at least)

Pushing your opponent out of your own pin attempt to roll into another spot.

Well, I don't think it works that well in term of "tricking" people they are just regular dudes "against human trafficking", since it takes about two minutes online to figure out they're creepy loony bigots. Hell, I guess ask one of them about "who" is doing the human trafficking and you'll get your response, in the midst of "Blue Lives Matter, God hates a homo, abortion is baby murder" and such wonderful things... Although I must say, I learned what QAnon was from this board. BTW, why am I not surprised to see Low-ki ? I wonder if taking part in that stuff will terminate any chance he'll have to work with MLW again.

I mean, the "I know everyone will say Kenny Omega but sorry I think it's Randy Orton" (RANDY BLACK FUCKING HOLE ORTON TO BOOT, he could have said, I dunno, Daniel Bryan...) almost feels like trolling. Plus, crazy notion around this place I know, but *a lot* of people are of the opinion that Kenny Omega is the greatest wrestler today. It's not like we're talking about some hot take guy either.

Plus, they really made it seem like "queering doesn't make the world work" was an isolated incident and fuck-up. Which of course it was not. I did not even know he said the victims of Katrina basically deserved it (learned it on Meltz show).

So, JR "just stating his opinion", even if that implies putting someone from *the other company* over, has nothing wrong about it, but guys "stating their opinion" defending the guy *from their own company* is bizarre and pathetic ? Wait, what ? If JR doesn't care, maybe he just should not be in his position, because he's paid to care or at least pretend he cares so that the audience cares too and thinks they're watching the greatest wrestlers in the world.

That's one thing he is absolutely brillant at indeed, glad I'm not alone noticing that one. It's insane how he can create a nearfall *after the fact* (because of how perception works) from any kind of spot. It's like a magic trick and it's a way to create excitement and tension with snap of a finger. Another one great at this (and they are a very rare breed because it takes insane timing to do it successfully) is actually Mariko Yoshida.

Sold to Anthem. IMPACT buys WWE. Dixie wins.

Andrade Almas would be awesome. Joe would be cool, but it's too early. I'm thinking more Slammiversary.

Both. He is much more than a go-go suplex worker. When he's going into go-go suplex mode he's awesome at it. He's also the master of pushing up the pace at *exactly* the right moments and the master at making *anyone* look better than they are (and able to push himself up to the level of superior workers like AJ). I wouldn't be surprised if he made my top 20 when all is said and done. Reminder : I'm speaking TNA, which is his peak as a worker. Some early criticism may apply more to his WWE work, although I may have to revisit that too without my former preconceptions to really figure out where he will end up. But he'll end up pretty high on my list. Angle was awesome.

So apparently Dana Guerrier called the Dark Side piece "smut" or something. So I guess that makes it promising.

It was an old thread which I remembered. Last post in 2018, so the discussion went beyond the first question which was asked for a podcast. (but anyway, no big deal, it was funny to me because it's the second time in two days in two different contexts that someone is doing this)

My biggest pet peeve is creating a new thread for an old topic that already had a thread before. And seriously, one thing I see too often that I don't like these days is people acting shocked when someone kicks out of something they never ever won a match with. Which is why Jerry Lawler is overrated as all hell, basically. But anyway, nothing is realistic in pro-wrestling. Complaining about thigh slapping today is as irrelevant and useless as complaining about foot stomping or chest slapping in the 80's. Speaking of which (80's) one of my biggest pet peeve has always been jingoist bullshit angle, flag waving patriotic crap and other "USA ! USA !" chanting idiocy. One of the funniest thing I've seen recently was during a TNA match in 2011 where the crowd goes "USA ! USA !" for no reason at all and after a while Taz is going "Why is the crowd chanting USA, all three people in the ring are american ?...... Well I'm all for it but... USA USA !!!!" and you can hear Tenay cracking up followed by a few seconds of silence while trying to get themselves together. Just fantastic.

Totally agree. JR has some great peaks but he could be unbearable at times too. Tony on day-to-day until he lost the plot in late WCW was always much better to me. Callis/Excalibur/Schiavone would be the dream team for the current product. The guy who really knows how to put over the current the stuff, the old-school fan-like enthousiastic guy and the super witty and smart heel color guy.

Gotta win that Chinese market. He just forgot to say also that Uyghurs are not real human beings and don't deserve to be treated as such. I mean, while we're at it...

And so on his podcast, JR said that Randy Orton was the greatest pro-wrestler in the world today. To which Jericho responded that having faced off everyone everywhere, to him Omega was the greatest. To which Omega responded that he'd take the words of Jericho over those of the guy who called him the WWE champion. L'ambiance est délétère, as we'd say. Seriously now, how long before something is done about JR and his inability to put over the product he's paid to put over ? I understand he's the established name and it was right at first to sign him for symbolic capital and shit, but really now, just have him do sit-down interviews until his contract runs-up.