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Actually, this is the very first Gene quote I thought about. Rumble 92 was pretty much the first PPV I saw, and Gene interviewing Flair I must have watched a shitload of times on that VHS tape.

Doesn't MLW wants to have a women's division in 2019 too ? With WWE signing everyone like they're WCW circa 1997, it's not gonna be easy to have a super solid division in every promotion. iMPACT has Tessa B. who's awesome and the Taya feud has been good, Su Young and Allie are quite solid workers and cool characters, but the rest of the roster is not exactly setting the world on fire (jury's out on Jordynne Grace, who could be a really cool worker of just a female Mike Elgin, not sure yet). What AEW needs surely is Joey Janela & Penelope Ford though.

Sorry, but not everybody that is a pro-wrestling fan follows "big budget indies" nor ROH. I follow whatever the fuck I want, basically. Hell, I used to get shit for That Indian Guy, before it became a running gag, because I had not followed enough WWE to recognize who the fuck he was (and I guess I was right not to recognize him, as his existence would have been better off ignored in the following months). Not recognizing the name of some indy worker who was the lesser known of the woman match at All In doesn't warrant a "Why do you even post in that thread ?" rude answer to someone who just ask about someone whose name he doesn't know. Anyway, the whole thread basically displays a bunch of Twitter egos playing "who's got the most followers", and this is exactly why Twitter is a disease. WCW redux ? I'm all in.

More Twitter feud/followers nonsense. Like I said before... As far as Britt Baker goes, that super well known professional wrestler, she's certainly the one of the three I don't remember from the All In match. She ain't got a Wiki page either apparently (shit, *I*'ve got a wiki page). So there, I think it's perfectly fine to not know who the fuck she is yet. Anyway, this thread is sad.

Raven on my TV. Yeah, iMPACT wants me happy.

Wow. The voice of pro-wrestling in the 80's and 90's. Although I would get the French version of both WWF and WCW until 97, I would still get Mean Gene's interview segments so he was The Man as far as these went. When we got WCW in 1996, I was amazed to find him back on this other promotion and he automatically gave an aura of legitimacy and star power to the product. Actually, I think my favourite Mean Gene era is the early Nitros where he would have that awesome chemistry with Flair. The Greatest, no doubt about it.

I listened to the HH98 episode and getting into Starrcade 94 and I enjoy it a lot. I'm glad the talk on this thread made me reconsider, I'm very positively surprised with Bischoff and how genuine he comes off (including him giving Meltz more credit than Prichard usually does). Maybe the fact it seems to be lighter on CT's stuff that I dislike helps too. I'm definitely gonna check more of this.

I love (well, not really infact) how the most exciting news of the last few years (decade ?) turns into a tepid debate about Meltz being paid off or not by the Young Bucks, stuff about useless Twitter feuds, not to mention the usual "well I'm not really interested anyway" posts. I used to be stereotyped as the grumpy one around here, but damn if the board doesn't come off as blasé as fuck here...

Mariko Yoshida spider outfit > everything ever. She looked so awesome in every way possible : badass, cool, sexy, plus it fit her in-ring style. The perfect match.

Sadly, you kinda see that everywhere. Just saw it on MLW and iMPACT too. Yet another awful WWEism that has spread out.

This. The Jarretts have failed. Billy Corgan, well... ROH will never be it. This is the most exciting story since the death of WCW as far as the pro-wrestling landscape goes in the US.

My interest in 00's WWE is sub-zero. So there. I guess the AWA stuff can be interesting but the AWA back then was such a dying mess already. Gonna check those Starrcade episodes and HH 98 first then. Thanks !

With the greyish beard, I thought he kinda looked like Terry Funk... sorta...

Ok, I gave up listening the first episode, but all the positive talk about this show makes me want to give it another shot. Sell me a few episodes where Bischoff is at his less annoying and most genuine. I have zero interest in all thing AWA or WWE, but I am interested in TNA stuff. So there. Hit me with some references, people and help me find a good podcast for early 2019, as I have grown incredibly tired of CT's other two shows last year.

I've gotta say, as far as a comedy match goes, the Thanksgiving special was pretty classic. Glen Gilberti. Kikutaro. Scarlett Bordeaux manipulating the Disco Inferno into wearing the turkey suit. The young referee "moving into puberty", as Callis said (and damn, Callis is easily the best pro-wrestling announcer today). The entire team doing the Bahh roll. That was all good. Also, Gilberti looks pretty fine for a 51 year old. He kinda has a Terry Funk thing to him too I thought, oddly enough.

It was fine. It's just heat-seeking. MLW still has this kinda low-rent quality to it, so the execution was straight out of some 90's s japanese indy sleaze promotion, and you really won't get much heat for heat-seeking in 2018 anyway, especially in MLW where the audience kinda sucks honestly (the Florida audience at least kinda always does). They work the kidney, then they stab him. Quite a bit of blood. Hey, don't expect 80'sPuerto-Rico level fuckery here (I'm talking angles, obviously), it was fine for what it was. We'll see how they handle what follows. It's kinda fun to see Konnan be an important character both in MLW and iMPACT (after the LU stint). These "hardcore" angles do have his imprints all over them, but I must say as much as Konnan the pro-wrestler was one of the worst I've seen, I'm enjoying Konnan the mentor/manager quite a bit.

What I said. Plus him getting over as he did probably helped change the way WWE looked at talent in term of hiring guys from the indies (although CM Punk was instrumental in this too).

You can blame Kobashi for every chop exchange lifted from the legendary match against Sasaki at the Dome in 2005. Hell, I would guess the entire elbow exchange derives from this too. How a great, unique spot can became a total cliché. Edge I don't see the historical importance at all. No one cares about the load of WWE championships, it doesn't matter one bit. No one does the awkward Edgism spots anymore. The TLC are not Edge's. He was a 6th of those only, and really they originated with the Dudleys vs Hardys table matches, E&C were thrown into the mix once the formula was already there (the ladder match was already a staple of the promotion, the tables match was the Duds gimmick). And love him or hate him (that's me), Jeff Hardy has the most insane spots in those anyway. I don't see how Edge is historically important in any way shape of form. He was a main eventer during a down period, he got over huge once Lita got all slutty and shit. Bryan Danielson you can argue influenced a shitload of current workers, he's also responsible for years of WWE trolling his audience and the failure of Roman Reigns on top can arguably be put on his shoulders too, as he was the one the audience wanted and that's why Reigns never could work after he got picked over Bryan.

It was more than two years ago now. Discussions migrating to social networks and especially that godawful Twitter is what has hurt the board in the long run.

This is pretty damn funny. This is promo ability, people.

Cool pic ! Damn, Kawada has lost some weight it seems and it fits him. Both look good and happy there, that's nice.

I tried to watch a Nitro 00 watchover just for the heck of it. I didn't get past the first match. The main issue being that real-life Conrad Thompson talking about the stupid shit he does with his friends is fucking unbearable. He really comes off like someone I wouldn't want to spend more than 30 seconds of my life. The whole "I own this robe" stuff was obnoxious enough... Well, I'm glad Tony is announcing MLW, if anything.

And the last 2018 New Japan match is yet another awesome one. What a year, really. NJ should lock Ospreay under a fat contract, the guy is gonna be a huge gaijin star for them in the futur if they do.

I dunno, I enjoy Salina. She's got something legit unlikeable about her and she's lively and acting organically at ringside. Her promos aren't always the best, but I enjoy her interactions with Konnan (damn, Konnan as a manager has been a winner everywhere). Gotch's pecs make me feel uneasy. The Lawlor match was very good and the no-rope gimmick was used well. On the other hand, the flippity Xavier vs Andrews match was awful and everything terrible about flippity work. You fuck up your knee ? SELL IT AND MAKE IT MEAN SOMETHING instead of going through your stupid sequences like it's some sort of exhibition. The crowd should have shit on this way harder.

It sucks that the WWE is getting thrown a shitload of money for they shitty product while good little companies like iMPACT of LU are struggling while delivering the goods.