El-P
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Yeah, that's the first thing that came to my mind too.
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Probably, he's a trooper. But they need to refresh his character. This Wyatt feud is not the way to go. He's the same old same old Cena.
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I would have wished a grand surnatural post-match ceremony for Taker after his last match, instead we got a bad match in which he looked toasted and a very human-like walk up the ramp a-là Shawn Michaels. I would guess he's done, yeah. Very underwhelming way to go, but this looked like the one match too many, so in hindsight and kayfabe it kinda make sense that he lost. I have no idea why anyone would want a Taker vs Sting match anyway. It was a dream match in 1997. 17 years ago.
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That's what I thought too. Now, despite the underwhelming card as a whole, there was indeed the feeling of a change of the guard with guys like Cesaro, the Shield, Bryan being put over huge, Taker losing, HHH losing and getting some more in the main event (kudos to Steph for bumping in high heels on the outside, dangerous for the ankles), NOA & Kane getting squashed. It seems like they won't ever dare to do anything different with Cena, and he's getting old, banged up and boring, and I'm not buying the Wyatts, but still, with the whole Network launch and the business model probably evolving big time, these are very interesting times indeed.
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Yep. I cringed.
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So. I enjoyed the first hour immensely. Awesome opener, the best ever probably, with Hogan, then Austin then The Rock in the ring at the same time. Hogan Silverdome blopper made it even better, and Hogan selling it along Steve & Rocky was funny as hell. The three biggest name ever. Then HHH vs Daniel Bryan. Damn, this must be one of Trip's best match ever. And Stephy did her best Woman impersonnation. Didn't get bloated, didn't do any dull brawling either. Great ridiculous entrance by HHH. Great post-match too. Damn, I was fired up. And then… well… Modern WWE reminded me that I can't get too excited. The Shield match was a squash, so it was decent bu still, kinda useless on a WM card to me, especially when there was so few matches on the card to begin with. Although Cesaro winning the way he did was excellent, the battle royal in itself was a waste of time. Bray Wyatt vs John Cena. The Wyatt's entrance was great. From there it was all downhill. Terrible "acting" match at the beginning. Cena getting enraged was embarrassing to watch, and Bray Wyatt is just way too manufactured to be believable. Then it turned into a vaunted overlong WWF semf-conscious epic with counters and kicking out of finishers galore. Yawn. Taker vs Lesnar. Great entrance by Taker, better than last year. But damn, the match was just nothing forever then kicked in into kicking ot of finisher's galore and. WTF ? Really ? Taker losing his streak to Lesnar who's been turned into just another guy the previous year, after a totally underwhelming build and a snoozefest of a match ? I was bored with the streak anyway but this is just a ridiculous decision. The reaction of the crowd was priceless though, but you can feel the total downer it was. Heyman's selling of the victory was one for the ages though. So, next year is the last match for Taker I guess. Looks like the tank is empty. I fast forwarded during the Divas match, let's be serious. Orton vs Batista vs Bryan. Thankfully it turned into somewhat of a fun Attitude Era like dog and pony show, because Orton vs Batista was a dead match. The match really picked up thanks to HHH and Stephy, coming through the crowd no less which was a nice touch. I can't believe I'm saying that, but apart from Bryan who was the obvious star, this card was saved by Paul & Stephy doing exactly what they needed to do. Cool post-match (who was the woman with the little girl ? they weren't acknowledge on commentary). So yeah. No RVD (couldn't care less), no Sting (which would have been a big moment if done right). A terrible end to the streak. Really, this show was all about Daniel Bryan supported by HHH and Stephanie.
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Gonna watch it tomorrow morning...
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Considering where Hall and Waltman were just a few years ago, the Kliq reunion was a damn pretty cool sight. DDP was pretty great, and he deserves shitloads of credits. Although I never cared for Lita, I thought she was pretty cool herself with all those stories. But damn, watching all those guys make me feel old. Taker's tribute to Paul Bearer was classic.
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Oh man… What the fuck was Cole thinking ?
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Oh man, the cosplay match. First time I truly realized that love for Japanese pro-wrestling had fucked up an entire generation of hardcore fans and workers. Joe cosplaying as an All Japan big 4 and the crowd cosplaying Korakuen Hall was embarrassing to watch. Total post-modern pro-wrestling. I hated this with a passion.
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Agreed about that "Not anymore!" soundbyte getting really grating really fast. Thankfully they didn't really include the Nasties in the nWo, that would have been awful. They do look like two idiots here. Scott Hall dropping the Full Metal Jacket "Me love you long time" line for whatever reason. Nasty Nick. Damn it's kinda creepy to see Hogan and Flair's kids during this Nitro era knowing how they would end up. The Liz angle is actually really good and well done, and they made the most sense out of it. Gotta love the notion that we're supposed to think Hogan is a legit movie star.
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Funniest story in the ICP shoot is Hugh Morrus throwing a fit because he's supposed to be the fat guy doing a moonsault. What a big pussy this guy is. No wonder he acts like a bully.
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Agreed, Uncle Eric talks a good game when he's not being punked out. I guess they didn't plan to have him joign the nWo yet.
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Of course. He's Andre's son.
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Indeed. The Warrior one cracked me up. Odd they would me so spot on with the other ones and totally fucked up with Vince.
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[1996-09-28-WCW-Saturday Night] Rey Misterio Jr and Dean Malenko
El-P replied to Loss's topic in September 1996
Damn, Dean is dry. Yeah Tony is good here. I didn't know of this angle before. -
The beatdown and angle is great. nWo taking over the booth is great. Vincent debuting, not so much. Served no purpose at all except a not so funny pun at Vince. This is the beginning of nWo getting crowded with useless hacks sadly. Also, the remainder of the broadcast showed why an nWo TV show would not be a good idea. Of course with most the stars on the roster in Japan, it was a smart way to do things and it was fresh at the time, but watching it back now it just brought back bad memories of Souled Out...
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Well, April's Fool, of course I don't look forward to a 20 minutes HHH match, who am I kidding ? But yeah, they did a good job turning their mistake into somewhat of a long-term storyline which adds way more intrigue than most past Manias. Although the issue is having to go through yet another HHH match, but most of all a main event involving Orton & Batista, who are two black holes at this point, so pretty much 100% of my interest lies in watching Bryan celebrate in the ring at the end and that's it. The entire card looks dull and thrown together. Two battle royal ? Really ?
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I must admit Steph & HHH have done a really good job in the last few weeks, to the point I actually (gasp) kinda look forward to the Bryan vs HHH match just to get more of HHH bumping around and Stephy throwing a fit at the end. Well, if all goes well of course, but at this point, with this ridiculous self-aware video, it can't go wrong, right ? RIGHT ? Anyway, I lost every bit of interest I could have had for Taker vs Lesnar on paper, the streak always bored me and Lesnar doesn't look special anymore. And Taker ain't losing. Still don't care one way or another about Cena vs Wyatt. The undercard is nothing with two useless matches after the opener which has too many names thrown in already. The Hogan moments will be embarrassing, as will the comedy and diva stuff, as usual. So, at this point, my interest has been reduced to basically a HHH match (holy shit, what I am saying ?) and the final moment with Bryan getting immerged into 70k people chanting YES at the end of Mania.
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RVD at Wrestlemania ? In 2014. How exciting.
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Excellent promo for Sting, one of his best ever at this point. It's amazing to think they had to work it out because of stupid contractual reasons, and then come up with the crow gimmick which would make him the hottest babyface in the country for a whole year. Actually, Sullivan mentionned in the 96 Timeline that Hall came up with the crow gimmick for Sting.
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Syxx was supposed to come in early along with Nash & Hall, but his contract didn't allowed him to. They should have not made nWo Sting a regular after the angle. Hogan, Nash, Hall & Syxx + DiBiase as a boss should have been the nWo.
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Well, there is that. Blame the lack of blood.
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Tremendous heat and good work. I totally disagree about Hall & Nash, they were solid, especially Hall working with Arn during the first segment and bumping for everyone. Nash didn't shine because the cage doesn't suit his strong points, but the way he delivered his big boot to Arn the first time he came on was Barbie-like smooth. And both of them actually bump and show a lot of ass, which should be the case as they are bullies, not invicible monsters. The crowd didn't bought the fake Sting at all, chanting "This is not Sting !", which made the announcers look like idiots for not even questionning the identity of the guy in the ring. Not as bad as when Barry Windham dressed up as Sting in 90, but still. I agree that once the Sting stuff was out of the way, they totally rushed through it and the finish was anticlimatic (which kinda was always the case in Wargames anyway because of the "surrender" gimmick to me). The post-match was pretty awesome (although Benoit & McMicheal should have showed up) with the amazing "wolves around their pray" beatdown of Savage, Liz showing up from nowhere to protect Savage (which does come from nowhere but they do have 10 years of history together, and the love/hate/love dynamic is a classic so I can buy it) and the amazing scumbag attitude of Hogan. I loved the fact they just didn't beat on Savage for ten minutes but just satyed around him, simply threatening him and humiliating Liz, showing they could do whatever they wanted with both of them. Über sexy Liz lying over Savage and getting spraypainted was a great B-movie like gang-rape metaphor, there's something really creepy about the whole scene (and just like with the Jake Roberts feud in 92, Liz is portrayed as a pretty damn brave woman, jumping in the shark cage when not one WCW wrestler seem to have the balls to do it). Loved it and it was a tremendous built for Savage vs Hogan which all of a sudden looks like the hottest feud in the world again.
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[1996-09-15-WCW-Fall Brawl] Randy Savage vs The Giant
El-P replied to Loss's topic in September 1996
Solid babyace Savage match here, and the best single match the Giant has up until that point. Just basic storytelling that works thanks to Savage's selling and bumping. The nWo attack outside puts the heat on Savage vs Hogan for Fall Brawl. Good stuff, although Giant still looks like the odd one in the nWo, very clearly. Nick Patrick hasn't made his coming out, but he's obviously crooked. Good stuff.