El-P
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Really good stuff. Great ? I don't see it. Regal's performance was great, yes, but Psych wasn't. Lot of sloppy executed moves on his part. To me the very heated crowd makes the match that much better than it is. I have no idea why this had so much heat either, as Psych really never was over in WCW (his match with Malenko at WWIII got crickets). This made for a super hot opener on TV. Sadly, Bischoff and DiBiase only talk about Piper and Hogan, which would be the usual ultra annoying element of Nitro during the nWo era : not promoting your hot undercard.
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Couldn't be worse than Sandman's from 1995, really.
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Agreed. Han was awesome, but he wasn't the only one.
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On Saturday Night, 12/14/96, DDP uses a peculiar version of the Diamond Cutter which most likely inspired the 3-D. Then after the bell, he goes right in the front of the camera and says "I'm hardcore ! Thanks Bubba Ray !" Damn. I guess DDP was "flattered" that Bubba Ray stole his move in ECW.
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Personnality/character is what sells. Not size. Now, the business model of the WWE has always sold size has an important matter. That's why they never understood how to promote guys like Rey on top. That's why they pushed a number of big guys who failed miserably too.
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I have no idea on which podcast he said that stuff, but damn, I love Steve Austin :
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Damn, the last spot should be brought back :
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[1996-12-02-WCW-Nitro] Roddy Piper beats up Eric Bischoff
El-P replied to Loss's topic in December 1996
A little bit of Piper overexposure already ? Yeah, the nWo not daring to jump on Piper was exactly what the angle needed. Bischoff takes his first beating as a heel, and the slap from behind looked quite stiff. Good angle. -
HoF. Legends deal. Done.
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[1996-12-02-WCW-Nitro] Interview: Ric Flair & Roddy Piper
El-P replied to Loss's topic in December 1996
Decent stuff. Second promo from Roddy on the same show and this one was the better one. Still totally agree about what we said about Flair during this comeback, after a last super fun run as a heel in 96. -
Some homophobic dig at the nWo too. Well… Anyway, Piper ranting alone could quickly get grating, but here he was still pretty efficient. Cool reference to his Carolina history indeed.
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ECW Timeline I would prefer for the remaining years, considering who's available : 1993 - Todd Gordon 1996 - Raven 1998 - Tommy Dreamer 1999 - Steve Corino
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"Was better than Abyss" is either a truism or a backhanded compliment. In the case of Kane, it's both.
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The Piper Timeline is quite good infact. Piper is Piper, so you know what you're going to get, but he also tells a lot of stories. The Patterson deal is pretty much nothing, and putting it in the trailer was kinda dishonest because it looks like there's much more to it than there seems to be. He did call Micheal Hayes a snake though. Wouldn't even say his name. Overall a really good Timeline edition after a bunch of pretty bad ones (Windham, Vader, Beefcake). The next one is ECW 2000-01 with Justin. I'd much rather had Corino, as he's a hilarious storyteller, but Credible could be quite ok I guess.
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Abyss is an agent ? Wow. It's nice that you can be one of the worst (and stupidest) worker ever and still be an agent. Only in TNA I guess.
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Why ? To me it's like Stevie Ray getting this fat-ass contract in WCW. Complete waste of time and money. But hey, I hear Glenn Jacobs is a nice guy, so good foor him. Heard Abyss was actually a nice guy too. Not that there's a link between the two. Or maybe there is.
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I remember the bWo parody better. "Buy the shirt !"
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She's Rusev best asset. In a matter of 6 months, he'll probably be the next Broadus Clay. Hey, I like Rusev. Like it's been said, the entire act is a total throwback. Add the ridiculously hot "russian" girl right out of Rocky IV (WWE, always culturally relevant), and it's all good for me.
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There is a small place for midgets in pro-wrestling.
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Koko Ware is all about Memphis. Koko in WCW in the mid 90's would have been a Jim Powers like jobber.
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Okay. The evil monster who jobbed in three minutes at Mania is now the #1 contender and destroys Daniel Bryan. Midgets. Oberlong babyafce promos from a faction who didn't get over by doing overlong babyface promos (remember when Goldberg got to finally cut promos ?). RVD being pushed in 2014. More emphasis on that red hot Cena vs Bray Wyatt feud with more overdone "evil" stuff (yeah, he's clearly overdoing the whole chanting bit). Well. I was excited by the post WM show. And as always, WWE figured out how to kill my curiosity for their product in a matter of two weeks. Yawn.
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Savage showing up at Survivor Series in the MSG would habe been awesome. Can you picture the feud he could work at this point with Micheals, Hart and Austin ? Well, we got DDP which was a starmaker feud, but still, Savage during the pre-Attitude era would have been so much fun. Bischoff is already a very good heel promo. Total sleazeball. It comes naturally to him, and for obvious reasons. DiBiase is not even here, being totally irrelevant now.
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To be honest, that's what I thought when watching the trailer.
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Puroresu vs Lucha Libre vs American Wrestling?
El-P replied to blackholesun's topic in Pro Wrestling
Same thing here. It's funny, when I dove into puroresu in late 98, and then when I stopped watching US wrestling one year later, I thought I had found what I would watch forever from now on. I was so deeply into the diversity of puro, from AJ to NJ to the garbage promotions to the many joshi feds to the shootstyle and ridiculous indies. And after a few years because of lack of time and personnal issues I went away from it. I only watched a few matches from the 00's at the time of the GOAT poll. And then for the past 4-5 years, I went back to strictly american wrestling, going through ECW, SMW and WCW (and I only have one year left to go through until I'm done). I really wouldn't know what to do with puro now, and any attempt I made at watching some just never worked very well. What Loss says about the globalization of the styles also seems very true, and it's pretty sad. -
And there goes the floodgate. At this point the angle turned into a clusterfuck with all B players getting involved, and the original idea was bastardized. Bagwell turning was probably the only one who really got something out of joigning the nWo, it succeeded in turning him into a solid undercard heel.