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[1993-11-06-WCW-Saturday Night] Steve Austin and Col. Robert Parker
El-P replied to Loss's topic in November 1993
Parker was a rather annoying character. I guess it was the whole point, but I'm not a big fan. Fuller is pretty good in the role though. Austin oozes star power already at this point.- 6 replies
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[1993-10-30-WCW-Saturday Night] Ric Flair vs Sid Vicious
El-P replied to Loss's topic in October 1993
It was a shitty crowd that was dead also for a very good Steamboat vs Eaton match earlier which had a reasonnably hot stretch to the finish. I agree Flair was really good at being an agressor, and Sid is actually at his best when he's doing the goofy bumping heel, since he's so brutal on offense. Sid had a better match with Sting at Fall Brawl, but Sting suits him better as he's got more spectacular offense that he can bump off of. You can feel Flair is trying to keep things moving, and instills quite a bit of intensity in the match, beating the shit out of the big wimpy Sid on occasion with chops, which Sid hates (he wouldn't take Benoit's in 1999). Decent match, and Flair can get all the credit for it. Fifi, how man Fifi... It was not a retroactive decision, I think it was taped before Fall Brawl. The plan was to get Vader vs Flair at the Clash then Sid turn face (this was the turn after the match) and have Sid vs Vader at Starrcade. So, the stabbing spared us a horrible babyface Sid reign in 1994, which would probably led to Sid vs Hogan redux. Picture the horror. I'll get to that point eventually, but yeah, Flair was working extra-hard with Rude and Sid and it showed. I thought he was disapointing early on his comeback, but he sure showed me some good stuff with way inferior opponents.- 7 replies
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[1993-10-30-WCW-Saturday Night] Battlebowl Control Center
El-P replied to Loss's topic in October 1993
Surprisingly well done, yes. Just like the previous year I remember. The Battlebowl concept surely inspired WCW production people.- 7 replies
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Lame. The Blondes had so much potential to build momemtum for both Austin & Pillman. But you gotta have the Nasty Boys on top of the tag team division, and Pillman didn't had any star potential, did he ? Yawn
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I totally didn't recognized Matt Hardy. Man, that story about High Voltage is so lame. "Hi, I'm a fat fuck so I can only be a pro-wrestler". WTF were they thinking with this stupid stuff ?
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Maybe it comes from the fact Eddie Carpentier used to put him over big time when I got into wrestling, but I always loved Valentine. The look, the robes, the stiffness, the deliberate style, the elbow drops, the face bump. My idea of what a classic wrestler would look like (along with guys like Flair, Anderson and such). His series with Santana in the 80's is tons of fun. He had some great matches with Backlund too. He's a guy I certainly wish I would see more, as I never get tired of him. Even his WCW stints when he was way past his prime in the 90's I find enjoyable. Big time Greg Valentine fan.
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It can be new to someone who ignored it, but it can't be news. Right. 2020 : Nobuhiko Takada revival.
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Yeah, fun little angle, and once again, it actually makes sense. You don't let a totally corrup commissionner do whatever he wants for too long. This match was a travesty, Cornette gets impeached. Dutch trying to salvage his job during the rest of the show was pretty funny.
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Fun interactions between Tammy, DWB and Ron Wright. The Sherri promo was better this time around.
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DWB has a good little match with Gibson. The finish is a good way to build some heat for Rock'n Roll vs Armstrongs, although they just have to watch the tape back to see what happened.
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Bad booking for Cornette after weeks of promising a "secret weapon". This was lame.
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[1993-09-18-SMW-TV] Interview: Jim Cornette / Terry Funk vs Bob Armstrong
El-P replied to Loss's topic in September 1993
Funk is so great here yet again. Bob Armstrong was a great promo, but he couldn't do much in the ring.- 7 replies
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Glad to see Sherri make an appearance in SMW. I enjoy her as a heel much more though.
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The Del Rey vs Morton match was good, this one was nothing. Big difference between Morton and Gibson in singles.
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[1993-09-11-SMW-TV] Interview: Jim Cornette / Interview: Terry Funk
El-P replied to Loss's topic in September 1993
Awesome segments. The Observer line was hilarious, indeed, I really didn't expect it. And the Funk promo is insane. What does Foley say about it ?- 7 replies
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[1993-09-11-SMW-TV] Rock & Roll Express vs Bruise Brothers
El-P replied to Loss's topic in September 1993
The Harris boys can't look good facing Morton and Gibson. That's how inept they are. Shit, Stevie Ray looked better on WCW tv.- 7 replies
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Let me see. I remember ordering my first puro tapes in late 1998. I'd say October/November 1998. Maybe the argument was taking shape at the same time I was getting into puro, so as a newbie, to me it was gonna be new anyway and I wouldn't see the difference between a consensus opinion that had 10 years of history and the brand new consensus opinion that had two months of history and getting stronger by the months. I remember Jumbo vs Funk and Jumbo vs Mil, I'd say it was in 2000 or so. I think so because I used to print those damn DVDVR to read them on the train to Paris back then. I can picture myself reading about Jumbo vs Mil in the TGV for some reasons.
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RIP to a damn fine hand. Oh fuck, this is terrible news !
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I had very few responsibilities back then The same. (man, I gave so much money to Lorefice and Lynch between 1998 and 2003. If only I had known about the FUCKING INTERNET 2.0 COMING SOON back then, I would have waited a few years)
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One thing : who the fuck are "we" ? I warmed up to Choshu and Fujinami ten years ago when I began to watch shitloads of NJ TV. I guess my tastes are dated as far as Takada goes but are pretty well advanced as far as Fuji and Choshu go then. I know people love to feel like they belong together in some sort of "rightful group of thoughts", but in the end this just doesn't concern me. The appearance and disapearance of new consensus is interesting only in term of the historiography of the GOAT discussions. Maybe my 98 memory alludes to The Other Arena (I don't think I stumble onto it that early though, as I was aware of DVDVR before tOA), but what the heck, if just a few people made good arguments for Jumbo back in the days, that was enough for me to say he was considered as a GOAT. Was it a consensus ? Maybe not, but the idea was already there.
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Didn't he show up on WCW TV B-shows later in the decade ?
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I have no idea. Way too long ago. I just remember that I was a total newbie on japanese wrestling and that one of the name that jumped to my eyes as being talked as a GOAT worker was Jumbo, along with Liger, Misawa & Kawada. I knew Liger from NJ on Eurosport, the three others I had no idea who they were. Agreed. The PWFG shows especially would be put on tapes along other japanese indy stuff and it would be very scattered. I don't remember either. Plenty of Tiger Mask and Sabu comp around at that time. Yes. In a way I don't enjoy being a wrestling fan today because none of the current wrestling interests me, but in another way it's terrific to be a wrestling fan today thanks to the availability and ways to pass the footage around.
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[1993-10-24-WCW-Halloween Havoc] Vader vs Cactus Jack (Texas Death)
El-P replied to Loss's topic in October 1993
Understood. I checked out Da Meltz ratings for the show, and it's all over the place. Vader vs Cactus gets ****3/4 (ridiculous), Flair vs Rude gets ***1/4 (not even a good match) and Nasties vs Scorp/Bagwell gets ***1/2 (*good* match but I would go no further). Meanwhile, Regal vs Bulldog gets **3/4. Hum, what ?- 15 replies
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The Summer of 1993 solidifies SMW as probably the best TV product of the year in the US, despite (or thanks to ?) the old-school format. The big summer show was the best major card of the year, with an excellent Wargames like cage match and the awesome Cornette vs Armstrong showdown. Brian Lee turned from boring and dull babyface to cool heel with Tammy Fytch at his side, and you can see her get really good really fast. His work still isn't exactly stellar, but his bumping big man style heel suits him much better. DWB not collecting the bounty on Tracy Smother moves thing organically toward the babyface turn. I'm loving every minute of Candido vs Tim Horner (I'm a sucker for redneck butterface Horner and his bad promos, he's campy but he's genuine, and he's such a crisp worker), including Dennis Corraluzo making a cameo as the WWA president. Cornette's post injury promos are priceless, and the Heavenly Bodies with Del Ray are more fun in the ring than with Lane. The only thing I don't like about the product at that time are the Bruise Brothers, even the Rock'n Roll can't make them watchable. Bobby Blaze is a nice little worker in the babyface Barry Horowitz role too.