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  1. El-P
    After Finally rewatching Halloween Havoc, I have to disagree. The show sucked, and the booking was a large part of why it sucked. There was no reason to book yet another 30 minute matches between Windham/Dustin & Doc & Austin with an awkward screwy finish involving two referees. Especially when the same kind of finish would happen in the NWA title match, which was unexplicably terrible. Chono was hurt at this point, but still, I can't explain to myself how Rude and Chono can have a MOTYC a few months before and have such a stinker there. Even with Chono's injury. I have no idea if the rumour of Watts telling them to not show off the boys is true or not, but still it's bizarre to see Rude do so less after being so damn good all year long. Plus again the booking was confusing, as Madusa was accompanying him depsite having turned herself face a few minutes earlier by kicking the shit out of Paul E.. The WCW title match showed that Simmons was definitly a bad choice as a champ, and Barb a bad choice as a challenger, the match had no aura at all and they worked like a throwaway TV match. Nothing bad with what they did, but Simmons just didn't had it, couldn't work a compelling match and just didn't work as a champ. Same thing for Jake vs Sting, after all the great promos and promises of violence, the gimmick killed the idea of having an intense match, and Jake just wasn't capable of working a great or even interesting main event match at this point. So, again, bad idea to put him in this spot. All talk, no walk. Not to mention Watts building WCW around hardcore *wrestling* having a main event ending on a guy being bit by a cobra just looked out of place. So, it did have the best build for any big Watts shows thus far, but the matches showed most of them were a bad idea to begin with.
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    What a letdown, as this whole PPV was, really, with all three big main event just not delivering at all. Stupid gimmick, and Jake, as much as he could cut awesome promos, just never was much of a worker after his Mid South stint. After all that talk of ending carreers and hate and perversion, we get people working on each others arms. Okay... Sting swinging around the pole is vintage cool Sting athletic spot, and the snake bite is sick, but the match is so-so at best (which makes it better than Simmons vs Barbie and Rude vs Chono, very sadly).
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    Paul E. as a hysterical chauvinist pig is pretty great, as is Madusa kicking him in the face and tearing him a new asshole. Great segment.
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    Solid match I thought. The rude Philly crowd (including infamous ECW Hat Guy on the first row) chant "this match sucks" at Pillman & Steamboat. Retards.
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    Good match for 20 minutes, much better than I remembered it actually. Very much a WIlliams/Gordy style go-go-go match. Austin is clearly over with the Philly crowd, and Williams looks great. That said, the last ten minutes shows the match slowly loses his pace and dynamic, and the finish is really terrible and confusing. Good match hurt by poor booking.
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    RAW 1000

    El-P replied to Loss's topic in Pro Wrestling

    This show did nothing for me, and I usually enjoy nostalgia shows. Reminded me why DX was so unbearable with their 10 minutes long intro routines consisting of retarded catchphrases. The Mick Foley and Bret hart cameos were useless and not particulary cool. Not much in term of surprise cameos that were relevant to RAW history. The last segment was really good with a nice heel turn. The Trip/Heyman/Stephy segment was terrible. Yeah, Lesnar is thrown into Trips arms because Heyman got bullied around by Stephy. Yay. Rock is getting a title match at Royal Rumble, why ? Because, I guess. Anyway, heel CM Punk will probably be fun, and the Rumble to WM period will be interesting simply because of star power, but I've totally lost interest in Lesnar at this point.
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    Watts has been called many things. That being said, he did put a brutal halt to Scotty Flamingo's push too.
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    Great segment, but it's sad to see Heyman pushed aside like this. It's like Paule E. is venting is own frustration with Watts during this segment, with pretty terrific results. Nice way also to put Rude over as a top guy, as Heyman says he doesn't need Madusa or him to win his matches anyway.
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    This is the best Barbie training segment yet. They really did an excellent job pushing him as a monster, and Foley doing the talk for him really fit the picture perfectly. Yeah, Barb going back to the 80's look to erase the WWF years from the mind of the audience was a good idea.
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    Well, I actually enjoys the build to Halloween Havoc quite a bit, especially after Clash 20. Things are getting better. Watts is supressing the ridiculous tope rope rule, although keeping a dq on dropping a knee to the throat. Why not. More good matches on TV, with Brad Armstrong being on fire all of a sudden, I guess a small push did that to him. Although Barbarian isn't a main event wrestler, the push they gave him with Cac at his side and all the vignettes was a strong job of making him look like a freak. Jake Roberts is awesome on interview to build to Sting match. Doc & Gordy superpush that was going nowhere is done, and I like how they planted the seeds oh heel Windham as soon as the post match celebration with Dustin after they win the belt. It's subtle and it works well. Rude vs Chono could be intriguing enough I guess as an interpromotionnal match, but they did a better match plugging Sasaki coming in. Brian Pillman as a heel is refreshing, and it's cool to see him tag with Austin for the first time, foreshadowing what's happening next in 93. The lighheavyweight is dead, Armstrong busting out his knee was the nail in the coffin. Watts still gets low-budget veterans on the roster though, as Tony Atlas filling in for Butch Reed is not exactly star power. I'm fearing the Eric Watts push, I wonder how it'll look in retrospect.
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    I never realized how big Eric Watts was before.
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    Really enjoys these vignettes too. Finally Watts seems to get into a groove with the Havoc build, as he does the best job possible to get Barbie over. Good use of Cactus too.
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    Finally Watts deliver something cool. It took a while, but this is quite the education on wrestling promo. Good stuff.
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    I admit the build t Havoc is infact quite good. Really cool promos, and the fact they didn't jump each other makes it better.
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    Yeah, Cactus was weary of the snake. I would be too. At one point the cobra makes a sudden move and Cactus nearly jumps back. Jake holding the cobra while he's biting the handler's glove was creepy
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    I actually enjoys the Cactus Jack/Barbarian tandem quite a bit, and Cactus was perfect in the role of cuting promos for a freak like Barbie. The training sessions were fun. I admit Barbarian was given more credibility during this period than during his entire WWF stint.
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    Shane the white-meat babyface seems so alien once you're used to the Franchise. The Magnum connection was indeed dated, and the belly-to-belly never looked that good anyway. It would take years for Douglas to come off with a better finisher in the Pittsbugh Plunge. Yeah, blame Watts...
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    One of the strongest TV match of the year, as the TV becomes much better at this point. Barry Windham really is the standout in the match I though, great on selling babyface in peril, smooth offense as always. Terry Gordy was so good at this point, it's depressing to think in a few months his brain would go bye-bye. Doc & Gordy really were a failed experiment as far as the WCW audience goes, they really didn't get a chance to get over because of overpush and lack of promo skills, but they were a great tag team. I still don't know where does the MVC name comes from, as they were never called Miracle Violence Connection in WCW, and I don't remember them having any name in Japan either (although I would guess it was a japanese nickname, it sounds like it anyway).
  19. El-P
    Very much a Jake match, in that nothing is spectacular, but the basic basis of the match makes it very good simply thanks to Jake's psychology and selling. Really good stuff. Jake in WCW could have been a long term big time main event player...
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    Don't quite see the correlation when MMA is pretty much dead in Japan well. FWIW, in his shoot interview, Tajiri said he thinks MMA has nothing to do with wrestling popularity going down. To him pro-wrestling is down because the emphasis has been put on dangerous moves instead of showcasing strong characters.
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    Edit.
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    Invader was just managed by Harley Race, so he was put into the mix. Fun little Survivor Series match, but like always, it feels rushed. The no top rope rule really is a cheap way to get some dq's here, and Scott Steiner comes off like a complete fool doing it in front of the referee. Rick's exchanges with Vader were super stiff and impressive, but Rick really doesn't sell shit at this point. His released german suplex was amazing though. Vintage heel Jake stuff at the end. It's worth notice that the DDT is the most over finisher ever at this point, people still chanting for it despite being used against Sting.
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    Cool montage, better than the tag-team one.
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    Good little match, but it didn't feel like anything special, which I guess is enough to make it a slight disapointment. Steamboat going to the tope rope to win since it was a no dq match didn't get any special reaction, which showed that the banning of third rope rule was not working at all.
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    Andre would die a few months later. Kinda cool to see him chat with Gordon Solie though.
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