Loss Posted January 28, 2011 Author Report Posted January 28, 2011 This will live in infamy. Jim Ross fake shoots on the WWF, saying he has no loyalty to the WWF and talking about the great job he left in Atlanta in 1993, talking about everyone leaving the WWF not being an accident, which I suspect the crowd only popped for because they thought it meant he was joining the NWO. He does cut a good promo, but the angle is awful of course, bringing out the fake Razor Ramon at the end. WHAT WERE THEY THINKING? How could they possibly think this represented him in a good light? Is this the all time low point for the company? Quote
El-P Posted January 29, 2011 Report Posted January 29, 2011 I know it was stupid, but as a promo it's awesome. Like I said, I would have loved a full fledge Ross heel turn. But yeah, it was an awesome pro-nWo promo, with the cherry on the cake being the fake-Razor. To watch the real thing, change the channel, that's where the Big Boys Play. Quote
Bob Morris Posted January 29, 2011 Report Posted January 29, 2011 If they were really smart, they would have done it where Jim Ross says, "I have brought back Razor Ramon," and then when Rick Bogner comes out as the fake Razor, Vince McMahon confronts Ross about it, declaring it's not really Razor, and then Jim saying he just does what Vince always does: Put a gimmick on somebody and there it is. In other words, it needed to be about Jim Ross mocking Vince McMahon's propensity for putting a gimmick on a guy to make it his property, not like it really was Razor coming back. Of course, there was the whole lawsuit with WCW at the time and supposedly Vince was trying to prove the gimmick still had value to the company. Meaning the last thing Vince thought about was doing something clever with the angle. Quote
Victator Posted January 29, 2011 Report Posted January 29, 2011 And WCW did not once mention it was a Diamond Studd knockoff. Copyrights and trademarks are one of the worse things to ever happen to pro wrestling. Quote
El-P Posted January 30, 2011 Report Posted January 30, 2011 Copyrights and trademarks are one of the worse things to ever happen to pro wrestling. Agree. Quote
flyonthewall2983 Posted June 27, 2011 Report Posted June 27, 2011 The best thing I think to come out of this whole mess is that it put JR in a new light as an announcer. He was way more passive before in WWE, or at least he seemed that way to me. After this, it gave his whole persona a jolt that lead him to the Monday Night gig he rightfully had for so long. Quote
BackToBionic Posted January 30, 2013 Report Posted January 30, 2013 "Let me tell ya why..." became one of my catchphrases for years after this. Quote
Guest Andrews Posted March 31, 2013 Report Posted March 31, 2013 In other words, it needed to be about Jim Ross mocking Vince McMahon's propensity for putting a gimmick on a guy to make it his property, not like it really was Razor coming back. If this happened, 10 year old me would have thought it was cack, and stopped watching wrestling... Quote
Zenjo Posted October 12, 2013 Report Posted October 12, 2013 It would lead to a terrible angle but this was a really strong promo by JR. He really changed his character from the cheerful football obsessed PBP guy of the early 90's into a bitter and spiteful announcer, angry at how badly he'd been treated by McMahon. Quote
flyonthewall2983 Posted May 18, 2014 Report Posted May 18, 2014 He really changed his character from the cheerful football obsessed PBP guy of the early 90's into a bitter and spiteful announcer, angry at how badly he'd been treated by McMahon. It was the best segue into how he became the voice of the company, because it unwittingly put WWE in the position of suddenly having a three-man team with JR, Lawler and Vince. And once Montreal happened, Vince could never go back to the broadcast booth. Quote
PeteF3 Posted March 28, 2015 Report Posted March 28, 2015 JR's promo is tremendous, but as would happen in 1999 it only serves to babyface him further because--hell, what's he wrong about? Then Rick Bogner comes out doing a truly terrible Razor Ramon act, and from here they never really seem to want to pull the trigger of aligning Ross as a manager for the two impostors. So we have a dumb idea that's also badly executed. Quote
soup23 Posted January 19, 2016 Report Posted January 19, 2016 JR's promo is pipebomb esque. It is a shame that the dreadful Fake Razor came out afterwards as the crowd is buzzing and excited to see him and then you can see everything deflate as they slowly realize what is happening. Quote
Exposer Posted May 13, 2017 Report Posted May 13, 2017 Awful angle, but JR's promo is amazing. It's scathing & likely 100% true. The fans eat it up & cheer him for it. They could never get the fans to hate JR. I loved the moment where the fans initially popped for the Fake Razor, but then a hushed silence fell over the crowd once they recognized the guy was a complete fake. Fake Razor gets attacked by Savio Vega to close the show. Really terrible storyline to be doing in competition with Nitro even if I love Ross in this. Quote
tim Posted January 15, 2018 Report Posted January 15, 2018 JR's delivery is fantastic. Felt like WWF jumping on the "shoot" bandwagon and doing it well, and then the rest of the segment happened. Savio Vega randomly attacked Fake Razor as the show fades out was hilarious in how far off any mark it was. Quote
dawho5 Posted April 5 Report Posted April 5 Incredible promo. JR could have been a great manager and a great PBP guy. I think I like him more as PBP though. Quote
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