Loss Posted June 18, 2011 Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 Talk about it here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted July 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 Super fun match! Not as fluid as Atlantis/Fiera, but way more exciting. Love Machine is unmasked at Art Barr at the finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Evans Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 I Just love this match. Mostly for the story than the work itself but still great. Between Art giving the old woman his american flag at the beginning to losing the match cause he forgot that the piledriver was Illegal. Just great storytelling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoe Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 The story was good, but they really needed more time to put on a classic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chess Knight Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 Even when I first got into lucha and was chucking at least ***3/4 at everything I saw that didn't involve Konnan, I didn't love this match. And I still don't love it. Good wrestling, and I wouldn't call it anything skippable, but it feels really mellow for a mask match. There's a mask/hair match from these two on youtube that I'm going to check out, hopefully I'll LOVE that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Ridge Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Yeah, for a mask vs. mask match it felt like some of the venom/desperation was missing. Seen little of these type of matches so I was quite shocked at the ending. Seems like a pretty big brain fart to lose a mask match on DQ because of tombstone piledriver in front of the referee. I would guess not many of these mask matches are determined by DQ finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenjo Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 Love Machine had no end of charisma and looked competant on offence. Was his selling always this bad though? Panther was a top class worker. They had the crowd going and it was a fun match before the extremely anticlimactic finish. One of those ideas that might have looked okay on paper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeCampbell Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 I really liked this, except for the finish. This was a really fun and exciting match. But it rubbed me the wrong way that such an important match ended on a DQ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedEagle Posted March 18, 2013 Report Share Posted March 18, 2013 I'm firmly in the camp that doesn't see this as something incredible, primarily due to the finish. Machine has great to start and the crowd is definitely into this with a big match stipulation. Barr turns up the heel antics in the second fall and is DQ'd for using a martinete, which gives Panther the victory. I would've loved this as a finish to Panther winning a fall, but not deciding the match. It felt very flat and anti-climactic. Barr unmasks and does his own version of Funk's '83 Budokan promo post-match. This was definitely on track to becoming something great but the finish really brings it down. ***1/4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteF3 Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 I'm the exact opposite of everyone else--I thought the ending and post-match were done brilliantly and didn't think the body of the match was anything at all. I was left staggeringly unimpressed by Barr, whose offense looked incredibly loose and sloppy--and incidentally he looked ridiculous with his pom-pom mask. Love Machine is well on his way to evening up the match when he forgets what country he's in and levels Panther with a tombstone piledriver, costing himself the match and his mask. Barr throws a fit afterward and tips Panther over on the stretcher and beats him down some more, which was the highlight for me. Eventually he capitulates and unmasks, and gives a pro-Mexico speech which is pretty jarring to hear. I would think losing that mask would be seen by Barr as CMLL doing him a favor. This is an historic match that's the first Yearbook set-up to When Worlds Collide, so I'm glad I saw it on that basis. I just hope Barr looks better in the future because as a between-the-bells worker he didn't offer a lot besides his mannerisms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xlynwoodx Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 Loved the story of the match. Barr was really picking up steam on offense for the first time when he got carried away and hit an illegal piledriver. With so much on the line, the humongous crowd watching (apparently the place was so pack, 8,000 fans were watching on a big screen in the parking lot), Barr only working in the country for about a year...he simply forgot. Amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garretta Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 No, not amazing. Stupid, stupid, stupid. The only reason this finish ranks above Steamboat/Rude at SuperBrawl is because Barr eventually realizes his stupidity and tries his best to make up for it with the speech at the end. Who thought this mess up, anyway? What the hell is so brilliant about it? It would have been brilliant if Barr had decided that losing his mask was worth the satisfaction of sending Panther to the hospital and deliberately piledriven him. But to book an obviously talented guy like Barr to lose so ridiculously and then expect him to get over as anything at all in the future? Barr might have had a brain fart, but the booker had a full-blown brain movement, if you will. As Eagle said above, maybe this would have been acceptable as a finish to a fall, but not to a match. I don't know enough about the context of the bout to go off like I did on Steamer/Rude, but rest assured, I'm just as bothered. I'll be even more bothered if Barr doesn't recover well from this. Was that Norman Smiley in Barr's corner? Barr should have fired the guy who came up with the ridiculous tassel mask. Why they didn't have Panther try to pull on it at some point in the first fall to illustrate why wrestling with it could be dangerous to Barr, I don't know. I liked Barr giving the American flag to the old lady. I wonder what she did with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteF3 Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 Maybe they expected Barr to get over because he actually did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garretta Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 Yes, Pete, before all of this happened. It doesn't seem like we'll be getting any follow-up on the set, at least for a while, but I'm wondering how he'll get over now that he's been exposed as a total idiot, sappy postmatch promo notwithstanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKWebb Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 #267 - placetobenation.com/countdown-top-500-matches-of-the-90s-300-251/2/ This was alright. It would have made more sense for Blue Panther to be pulling on that tasseled mask the entire time. It seems like the heated bit of the feud was based on the fact that Love Machine had pulled Blue Panther's mask off during previous match and tossed it into the crowd. I feel like Panther should have grabbed those tassels and beat him senseless until he pulled that masked off teaching him a lesson in respect. We do get the callback to a previous encounter right off the bat, which I liked, where Love Machine is beating Panther's head into the ringpost on the outside. Eventually, Panther returns the favor. But, I just didn't feel the heat I was looking for (outside of the ringpost spots). It was quick, and the finish was out of nowhere. It didn't make me feel like it was a big deal to Love Machine for him to be losing his mask (during the match). Anyway, not a classic in my eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawho5 Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 I didn't think much of Barr at all based on this match. I've seen very little of him and I didn't think his offense or selling did him any favors here. His rudo mannerisms and post-match promo salvaged this. Put me in the camp that doesn't think there was enough hate for a mask/mask match. Also seemed like Barr was working a very American/Japanese style while on top. Not sure if that was on purpose or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul sosnowski Posted May 16, 2024 Report Share Posted May 16, 2024 Fucking bullshit. Two falls in barely 8 minutes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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