JerryvonKramer Posted January 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 Ok, I put that in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 FWIW, in the Aug 9 1993 Observer Newsletter, the lead story is: "After much discussion and speculation over the past week, World Championship Wrestling has reverted back to a booking committee composed of those already involved on the previous booking team (Dusty Rhodes, Ole Anderson, Eric Bischoff, Greg Gagne, Mike Graham, etc.). It appears the final decision-making power rests with Bischoff, who seems to be the most influential individual in the WCW organization since Bill Shaw is crediting the Disney tapings as a major success and Bischoff is getting the lion's share of credit for the shows. Both Terry Funk and Jerry Jarrett were spoken with by Shaw and/or Bob Dhue over the past few weeks about a spot in the organization, but to the best of my knowledge, neither were actually given a firm offer of a specific spot. Among many things, Funk felt coming in with Bischoff having the final decision-making power wasn't an environment he wanted to be part of." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLIK Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 Ok, thanks. I'll never understand the relationship between Hogan and Savage at this point. There was some hostility dating back from his divorce with Liz which he partially blamed on Hogan and Linda, et Savage seemed to align with Hogan no matter what in WCW, and ended up playing the role of his bitch like he always has before. Why wouldn't Savage support a guy like Flair who was just much closer to himself in term of work ethic ? Savage vs Flair was the best thing Savage did in WCW next to his program with DDP. It's just bizarre to me why Savage would follow Hogan's lead, he was a big enough star on his own. Insecurity maybe. Money. Savage knew being programmed opposite Hogan he was going to get more money. Being Hogan's partner means a good pay day. Politically opposing Hulk would have cost him money. Meltzer mentioned on a recent podcast that if you combined their runs together, Hogan & Savage made more money working with each other then they ever did with anyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingus Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 This came up reading the Observers for the podcasts but in December 88 after Dusty was fired but before the booking committee headed by Flair took over, JIM CROCKETT JR. HIMSELF was booking. He was the booker for Clash 4 and Starrcade 88. The committee took over after that. I literally had no idea at all that Crockett ever booked any shows himself. Cornette described his tenure succinctly in one of his shoots: "Jim Crockett knew wasn't a real booker, he was a Maintenance Booker. He could keep the boat floating (provided it didn't have any holes in it) until someone came along to paddle." ALSO, Jim Herd had quite an extensive wrestling background pre-Pizza Hut that is never ever and I mean EVER discussed, mainly in St. Louis but also working for Vince Sr. for a while too. The WONs from around November and December of 88 are a real goldmine of info I've never seen anyone else.Yeah, why does that never get mentioned? The standard line on Herd is that he was a completely inexperienced outsider who had absolutely zero knowledge of wrestling, which is simply not factually true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 Does anyone know the exact dates of the last show Kevin Nash booked and the first show that Russo wrote in 1999 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 Russo's first show was 10/18. I'm not exactly sure what Nash's last show was. I think he sort of faded out over time. I believe there was an in-between period where Kevin Sullivan and company were doing it. I don't think Nash was booking past Road Wild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Cooke Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 9/6 Nitro was the last Bischoff Nitro but I'm with Loss in thinking he was faded out before that. I don't recall the WON's at the time really giving any in depth information, other than a new committee taking over with Busch, Sullivan, Nash, JJ Dillon, and a few I'm forgetting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 Loss: can you use your Supreme Being Powers to edit the first post. Jerry said he did on the second page, but he seemed to miss the level of detail that Tim and then I point on for the "post-Nash to the end" period: September 1999 - Sullivan/Taylor/committee October 1999 - 1/16/00 - Russo/Ferrera 1/16/00 - 4/1/00 - Sullivan/Taylor/Ferrera/committee 4/10/00 - a week after Halloween Havoc (I think) - Russo/Bischoff 11/00 - 3/26/01 - Ace/Taylor/Ferrera 4/10/00 - a week after Halloween Havoc (I think) - Russo/Bischoff Russo was in a strange roll prior to that as he did a lot of work at home selling PCS while being worried about his job. He was officially out at the 10/23 Nitro/Thunder tapings when Terry & Ace took over. Eric... he wasn't really involved a ton for quite a while prior to that. Eric had some big picture stuff, but I suspect by the time of the Bash (i.e. shoot on Hogan), he was fading and instead was focusing on lining up money marks to buy WCW. I would tag it as "Russo" through all of that period. John I haven't checked to see if others have detailed dates/months in the thread as well, but since the first post has the chance to be a useful long term reference piece, we might want to get it as detailed/accurate as possibly. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 Thanks. I needed some references to plan my watching schedule. Maybe will try to end the Nash era before taking a long break of a few weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Guitar Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 In that period post Bischoff/pre Russo in 99. Wasn't Craig Leathers put in charge of the booking committee? That's what Powerslam were reporting at the time, which I assume they took from the WO, as they did with pretty much all their info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Evans Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 Wasn't Nash's last booked show a thunder where he did the announcing with Larry and Tenay and was drunk? That show featured a lot of jobber matches and the main event of I think Luger/Steiner vs Buff and La Parka. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death From Above Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 Wasn't Nash's last booked show a thunder where he did the announcing with Larry and Tenay and was drunk? That show featured a lot of jobber matches and the main event of I think Luger/Steiner vs Buff and La Parka. I don't remember this at all but it appeals to my sense of humor. If I'm going down, it's not going to be pretty. Giddy up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 Wasn't Nash's last booked show a thunder where he did the announcing with Larry and Tenay and was drunk? That show featured a lot of jobber matches and the main event of I think Luger/Steiner vs Buff and La Parka. That was the last show before Russo, but I think Nash's booking run was over by this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 Wasn't Nash's last booked show a thunder where he did the announcing with Larry and Tenay and was drunk? That show featured a lot of jobber matches and the main event of I think Luger/Steiner vs Buff and La Parka. I don't remember this at all but it appeals to my sense of humor. If I'm going down, it's not going to be pretty. Giddy up. Here are the highlights. I don't know about Nash being drunk, but he's clearly goofing around, doesn't give a shit, and it's hilarious. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1ZL8wC8czg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted April 14, 2013 Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 Russo's first show was 10/18. I'm not exactly sure what Nash's last show was. I think he sort of faded out over time. I believe there was an in-between period where Kevin Sullivan and company were doing it. I don't think Nash was booking past Road Wild. After watching the build to Road Wild, I will take a wild guess and say the commitee was already in place right after the Bash at the Beach debacle. There was a notable difference in how the TV done at that point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 Didn't Johnny Ace joigned WCW and helped book as early as July ? There has been a distinct change in the way the matches are booked during the period Russo was gone before Bash at the Beach, with more clean finishes and a lot more near falls leading to a pin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Cooke Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 He started a week before Bash at the Beach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 Okay, thanks. I was thinking, watching Booker T vs Mike Awesome on Nitro, that he must have been there already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 Ok, I'm near the point of salvation aka Russo being gone from WCW. I think Ace/Taylor/Ferrara took over the booking completely on October 23rd, can anyone confirm this ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButchReedMark Posted September 20, 2013 Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 I always thought it was around Australia tour time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 I believe the first Australia show is the 09 October show, but I'd like to know exactly when they really got rid of Russo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chief Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 I believe the first Australia show is the 09 October show, but I'd like to know exactly when they really got rid of Russo. Yeah I'm curious to know more about exactly how and when he departed. I was just starting to go online at that time and I remember reading almost every other day that somebody left or was leaving WCW. I'm pretty sure that I read that about Russo alone about twenty times so when it actually did happen I just ignored it. That whole period of late 2000 to the end was so chaotic and depressing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Migs Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 What time period was Jimmy Hart booking Saturday Night? People seem to dig that and I'd like to check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 I believe the first Australia show is the 09 October show, but I'd like to know exactly when they really got rid of Russo. Yeah I'm curious to know more about exactly how and when he departed. Okay, I got the 23rd October date from the KC 2000 Timeline, so I think it's a valid source (I suppose they check their chronology). On the show Russo said he didn't even fly off to Australia two weeks before so he was pretty much done by October 9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Cooke Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 Jimmy Hart booked WCWSN from 9/18 until 10/31 or 11/7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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