C.S. Posted June 4, 2019 Report Posted June 4, 2019 Even more bad pub for the trashy Ring of Honor. It's a huge thread, so click on the tweet for more from her. Quote
Seabs Posted June 5, 2019 Report Posted June 5, 2019 I’m baffled at how underplayed it’s been that a wrestler spat at a fan. That’s assault by law and fucking disgusting. Yet there doesn’t seem to be any backlash at all for Mandy to be fired over it. Exchanging unflattering remarks is one thing, spitting at a fan is a whole other level. Quote
Mad Dog Posted June 5, 2019 Report Posted June 5, 2019 32 minutes ago, Seabs said: I’m baffled at how underplayed it’s been that a wrestler spat at a fan. That’s assault by law and fucking disgusting. Yet there doesn’t seem to be any backlash at all for Mandy to be fired over it. Exchanging unflattering remarks is one thing, spitting at a fan is a whole other level. Yeah. I think a lot of people don't realize that it's assault and he should press charges. Quote
Coffey Posted June 5, 2019 Author Report Posted June 5, 2019 On 6/4/2019 at 5:00 PM, C.S. said: You're all living in a magical land where we're still in the glory days of Samoa Joe, Bryan Danielson, Jimmy Jacobs, BJ Whitmer, etc. That's long gone. Wait... Quote
C.S. Posted June 6, 2019 Report Posted June 6, 2019 40 minutes ago, Coffey said: Wait... LOL. Well, I associate BJ Whitmer and Jimmy Jacobs together in my mind because of their famous cage match. Quote
C.S. Posted June 8, 2019 Report Posted June 8, 2019 Not ROH related, per se, but I don't know where else to put this... Sinclair Broadcasting's Bullshit Strikes Again This is exactly why, no matter what ROH does, they will never be a major league organization. The minute they get "too big" (hah, fat chance of that), the media scrutiny will be a lot more intense because of who their parent company is. While WWE can withstand it because they have enough money and no one gives enough a shit about wrestling to truly escalate anything they do, ROH is not in the same plum position. With that said, ROH is lucky that Sinclair is so (seemingly) hands-off. Something like Dalton Castle probably doesn't happen if anyone from Sinclair is actually paying attention to their investment. Quote
MikeCampbell Posted June 8, 2019 Report Posted June 8, 2019 ROH has put out another statement on the Bully Ray incident from last weekend. It more or less says that fans can cheer and boo, and that wrestlers and fan interactions are supposed to be part of the show, but Bubba crossed the line. What sticks out to me is what it *doesn't* say, which is anything about how ROH expects it's fans to behave and conduct themselves during live events. Which tells me that the ROH office and/or Sinclair Brass must not have thought that anything the guy did or said was exceptionally out of line. There's also this great piece from Cageside Seats. According to a guy in the comments, Bryan Alvarez said that he had some friends who attended the show, and they absolutely back up the fan's story as far as how things played out at ringside. Quote
sek69 Posted June 8, 2019 Report Posted June 8, 2019 Not to mention ROH said they completed their 48 hour investigation, which apparently didn't involve talking to the fan at all. So that tells you how hard they looked into it. Quote
El-P Posted June 8, 2019 Report Posted June 8, 2019 Sexual assault. Imagine Francine being pissed at "She's a crack whore!" chants... This is a debacle. If a fan is absolutely rude, you can have him throw out *by security*. Talent spitting on a fan and dragging his ass backstage to get lectured by the boyfriend(s ?) is a recipe for disaster. Quote
SomethingSavage Posted June 8, 2019 Report Posted June 8, 2019 This company is such an afterthought that I completely slept on whateverthefuck has been happening with this fan. Wild stuff. Crazy to imagine ROH used to be the premiere independent feeder league for WWE. Now it feels like a wrestling promotion for an audience of two dozen people. Quote
FMKK Posted June 8, 2019 Report Posted June 8, 2019 It must be drawing some sort of audience but I just can't imagine who because it has such a dealthy lack of buzz Quote
Mad Dog Posted June 8, 2019 Report Posted June 8, 2019 I think their attendance has been dismal since MSG. I know they bombed pretty horribly on that Pacific Northwest trip. Quote
clintthecrippler Posted June 8, 2019 Report Posted June 8, 2019 It's wild to think that even though they never ended up following through and bringing them on to the roster, the Enzo and Cass stunt still may have cost them permanent goodwill even if they never come back. I know I myself had been thinking dropping cash to watch the Crockett Cup show they did with the NWA, but after being in the Garden the night that went down I got really gunshy that they were going to have some sort of Enzo and Cass follow up there and that was enough to get me to not spend cash. The roster was already depleted and attendance was already faltering in the weeks between the Elite's departure and the MSG show, but it's like ROH is completely oblivious to the concept that they could do anything further to erode enthusiasm in going to the show, but here we are. Bandido and Jeff Cobb are two of my "I will watch you wrestle ANYONE" guys right now, but short of putting the ROH Title one of them and booking them against each other for the next year, I dont even care much to see them wrestle in that ring. Quote
MikeCampbell Posted June 8, 2019 Report Posted June 8, 2019 7 hours ago, El-P said: Sexual assault. Imagine Francine being pissed at "She's a crack whore!" chants... This is a debacle. If a fan is absolutely rude, you can have him throw out *by security*. Talent spitting on a fan and dragging his ass backstage to get lectured by the boyfriend(s ?) is a recipe for disaster. I remember way back when fans at ROH shows would wave dollar bills at Lacey. Yes, Austin Aries never felt the need to have someone sent to him backstage so he could 'teach them to respect women.' Quote
Mad Dog Posted June 8, 2019 Report Posted June 8, 2019 7 hours ago, El-P said: Sexual assault. Imagine Francine being pissed at "She's a crack whore!" chants... This is a debacle. If a fan is absolutely rude, you can have him throw out *by security*. Talent spitting on a fan and dragging his ass backstage to get lectured by the boyfriend(s ?) is a recipe for disaster. And in this situation it seems like they fired the first shots and went for sex first. If she called him a "virgin" and he fired back with "well, you're fucking a fat guy" and "tramp stamp club" that seems fair game at that point. If they can't take it then don't take it there. Quote
Coffey Posted June 8, 2019 Author Report Posted June 8, 2019 Kudos to that fan because "Tramp Stamp Trio" is a money line! Too bad a worker didn't say it on an actual show. Quote
sek69 Posted June 8, 2019 Report Posted June 8, 2019 3 hours ago, Mad Dog said: And in this situation it seems like they fired the first shots and went for sex first. If she called him a "virgin" and he fired back with "well, you're fucking a fat guy" and "tramp stamp club" that seems fair game at that point. If they can't take it then don't take it there. Yeah so much of this seems to be due to them getting pissed they got shown up by a fan while doing a tired "you're a virgin" routine. It's just funny ROH is pretending to spend so much time looking into this. Who's doing the looking? Surely not the folks actually running the show, Bully's cool with them. Sinclair couldn't care less what goes on inside the ROH locker room, who could possibly believe anything would come of this? Quote
Mad Dog Posted June 8, 2019 Report Posted June 8, 2019 Which is weird because you would think they would have lawyers looking at this to make sure they can't get sued. I think most competent companies, WWE especially, would just fire the people involved due to the optics. Quote
Migs Posted June 10, 2019 Report Posted June 10, 2019 On 6/8/2019 at 8:30 AM, Mad Dog said: I think their attendance has been dismal since MSG. I know they bombed pretty horribly on that Pacific Northwest trip. From the numbers in the Observer, they didn't exactly bomb, but they're running buildings that are way too big (and lighting them like they're full) when they're essentially back to where they were a bunch of years ago (they can draw 500-700 a show and not much more most of the time). Quote
C.S. Posted June 26, 2019 Report Posted June 26, 2019 Remember that fan who got dragged backstage and unprofessionally dressed down by Bubba Ray? (He's lucky he didn't get the shit sued out of him! Ditto for ROH.) KO invited him to Smackdown, and there were no incidents of any kind. I wonder if KO felt embarrassed by how far his former fed has fallen. http://www.prowrestlingsheet.com/kevin-owens-fan-roh-bully-ray-wwe/ Quote
sek69 Posted June 29, 2019 Report Posted June 29, 2019 Eli Drake was announced as Nick Aldis's tag team partner at Best in the World and it was announced he signed a deal with the NWA (whatever that means in 2019). I suppose he'll be part of the NWA vs ROH feud they have been building, and at least he's someone I'd look forward to seeing. Quote
hammerva Posted June 29, 2019 Report Posted June 29, 2019 Baltimore is really Ring of Honor's best market. Maybe there only market since they don't run New York as much. Well this PPV from the looks of it is in a building about 30% fill and a mostly dead crowd. I remember last year around this time wondering why the fuck they are running 8000 seat building when they are lucky to get 2000. Now they are worried about building half the size getting 1000. The NWA being the babyface in this feud on a Ring of Honor PPV is really dumb but not surprising. Quote
hammerva Posted June 29, 2019 Report Posted June 29, 2019 Well we knew the Cobb wasn't going to beat Taven but for someone who is supposedly undefeated that was a rather easy win for Taven. Have to think the future is looking bright for Cobb and he is leaving this sinking ship Quote
William Bologna Posted June 29, 2019 Report Posted June 29, 2019 I was there tonight and at last year's BITW, and the difference is staggering. Last year it took forever to get a beer. You couldn't get down the one hallway where they were doing meet and greets. This year there was no line for beer, and all the hallways were easily accessible; even the one with Jay Briscoe standing there looking at his phone. The show wasn't any good either. Shane Taylor vs. Bandido was cool, though. Quote
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