Loss Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 Talk about it here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Childs Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 Hoshinoooo! A beloved "discovery" from the '80s project makes his yearbook debut and does not disappoint. New Japan 10-mans are among my favorite things in wrestling, and this was a great one. The crowd was batshit, the hatred palpable, the action wild and unstinting. This was 2/3 falls instead of elimination but no matter. Everybody in the match got a moment to shine, from Koshinaka as the face in peril to Kurisu as a badass invading wild man. The sequence outside the ring with Kurisu fighting Choshu's whole team was particularly great as was the moment when Hoshino played king of the mountain, continually dropkicking opponents off the apron and into the guard rail. Ultimately, these matches were the perfect vehicle for Choshu, because he could wrestle in explosive bursts, which he did as well as anyone ever. He came off as about the biggest star in the world here, and there was no doubt he could regulate whenever he chose. I had a grin on my face for the duration of this, and I can't see it falling out of my top 10 for the year. I had to stop watching wrestling for the evening, because I knew anything else would be a letdown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted December 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 So much to love here! I could have watched these guys go twice as long under elimination rules and loved every second of it, but I'll take what I got, which was a fantastic, high-octane match that's typical of the great NJ tags of the 80s. Saito was on a suicide mission with some of those bumps to the floor in the first fall. Koshinaka as the whipping boy is lots of fun. I love the retaliatory clubberin' spot that leads to the finish in the second fall. Kurisu vs The World was incredible. Great match, and I agree with Childs that this will likely be in the top 10 for the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteF3 Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 Top 10 MOTYC easily. All ten guys brought something to the table, and I loved Goto's presence here in every respect. The crowd absolutely despised him, which is always a treat to see a native get that kind of reaction, and he really came off as an outsider with stuff like bringing chairs into the match. He even heels it up in the post-match. Hoshino works some awesome house-afire stuff. Sasaki is a big bundle of energy who seems to have been studying Rick Steiner at times. Saito takes some absurd bumps to the floor and his sentons are as great as usual. I hate Koshinaka and he's a lot of fun here, working maybe the longest sequence of anyone in the match. Hamaguchi throws everything he has into every move he does and maybe has the best regular elbowdrop in wrestling history. SSM brings some nice chunky offense. I've never seen Kurisu before but he worked a little mini-match with Koshinaka that was nice. Choshu was Choshu. Yeah, there's nothing not to love about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soup23 Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 How well known is this match? I had literally never heard of it to watching it here and it is fantastic and includes many of the elements I really love about pro wrestling. Taking someone I have never heard of (Kurisu) and making me look for more because of how awesome he was. Taking someone I usually hate (koshinaka) and making him likeable. Giving us another glimpse of Hoshino. Choshu and Animal doing there thing. Tarzan looking like a bastard. I could go on and on but part of the beauty of this match was watching the sequences develop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoe Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 Holy mother of God was this amazing. Everyone had a moment to shine. I loved the 5 on 1 spots. The pacing here is off the charts. The crowd is going nuts here. I loved all 3 finishes. Just a great chaotic wrestling match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Ridge Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 Yeah, great match. Working my way through the NJPW 80's set I've come to really enjoy these big tag matches. Thought the two out of three falls worked perfectly. Going in I felt that maybe the teams were a bit one sided but was impressed with Animal's team. There was some crazy bumping by Goto just throwing his body against the railing on three consecutive moves. Great crowd. One of NJPW best efforts so far in 1990. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenjo Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 Not in the same ball park as the 80's 10 man classics. Just looking at the line ups beforehand there's a huge imbalance of talent. None of the heel team are anyone I want to see in singles matches. Still the format does a great job of protecting wrestlers weaknesses as they don't have to be in the ring for long at a time. This meant that only Hiro Saito sucked ass in this one. What an awful worker he was throughout his wretched 3 decades in New Japan. A big beneficiary of the old Japanese jobs for life culture. Â Fortunately on the other side you had superstar Rikki Lariato, it would've just been a midcard match without him. And then there's 10 man specialist Kantaro Hoshino. What a spunky little scrapper he was. Plus a strong face/heel dynamic and a hot crowd. Some inevitably ropey moments but goodness also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted February 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 Hiro Saito was awesome in this! Did you not see that bump to the guardrail from the apron? He was a regular Bobby Eaton in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunning_grover Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 For those who hadn't figured it out yet, that's not Tarzan Goto in this match. It's Tatsutoshi Goto, who was one of the Blond Outlaws (along with Hiro Saito and Norio Honaga). Â Surprisingly, Hiro Saito was the man of the match, in my opinion. He worked really hard and those bumps into the guardrail were crazy. Â A lot of the 1980s NJPW elimination matches were better than this match. Still, this match was fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravJ1979 Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Definite need for a rewatch and I didn't like this at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Cooke Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 Re-watched this yesterday. Besides Choshu, the other nine wrestlers were mid card wrestlers at best, some washed up, others just never better than okay, yet everything in this match works and works really well. This is a prime example of why I can't and don't buy into the hype of modern New Japan "classics." Â The best New Japan matches of the modern era don't come close to the heat generated by this match. I acknowledge it is a different time period but I also know that these weren't the 10 most over guys in the company, none the less the best workers who by pure force could get a good to great crowd reaction for almost every big spot. Â The match is 2/3 falls and since it is Choshu who is running things, it is done sprint style. I'd be willing to argue that this match was worked at a faster pace than most modern day tag matches, which is something that bothers me about today's matches. Here, the fast paced is used to do a quick rope running sequence and then quick tags in and out by both teams. They use an average set of moves for 1990. Nothing particularly high end, although if you like regulars sentons you will be happy, but nothing that reeks of "these guys are still stuck in the 70's." Â It's the little things here that really make the match. Kurisu is the old man outsider and his first move is a stomp to the chest of Choshu (or one of his team mates). He gets boo'ed instantly. It may be a product of its time, great booking, attentive crowd, or a mix of all of those but he retains that heat throughout. This also has an aura that is missing today. There are two to three times the match looks like it is going to get out of control and then things are reigned back in organically and the match continues. It was a riveting 25 minutes with heat and story that is missing from 2014 New Japan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garretta Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 This reminded me of the kind of multi-man tags that Vince would run at the Spectrum every once in a while just prior to Hogan coming in. A few of them made it to Coliseum Video back in the day, and their express purpose was to make sure that the fans saw as many different combinations of wrestlers in the ring as possible, which would most likely explain why they weren't elimination matches. They were "a whole card in one match", according to the hype, and most of them featured Andre, who would squash one of the unlucky heels like a grape to take the final fall and send the fans home happy, kind of like Choshu did to Kurisu here. The only difference is that this match was two out of three falls, while the Spectrum matches were mostly three out of five. Â One added twist in this match was the scrum spot, where all ten guys would brawl in one corner. I never saw that in the Spectrum matches, mostly because Andre cleaned house on everyone. There was also fighting outside the ring in this one, complete with chair throwing by Kurisu, which also never happened in Philly. Finally, it seemed at times as though the ref in this match completely forgot who the legal men were supposed to be; two guys would be fighting, then be replaced by two totally different guys after some type of distraction spot. I liked the five-on-one sequences we saw from both sides as well. (Neither of the above spots happened at the Spectrum.) Â Overall, I'd say this bout was more action-packed, as it actually featured moves rather than just a brawl followed by Andre taking out the garbage. But as nice as seeing Choshu lariat Kurisu out of his boots was, nothing compares to seeing Andre squash Mr. Fuji or one of the Samoans flatter than a pancake. So this match does well in comparison to the other matches on this set, but loses to the rosy nostalgia of Coliseum Video in my mind. Where was the Giant when we needed him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drew wardlaw Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 Kantaro Hoshino was a really underrated part of the uwf vs njpw feud, and into the generational feud after that. He never played a huge role, but he always stuck out to me. He sticks out here too with some great fired up offense. I had never heard of this match before and too bad because this was great. There's so much to dig into here. I love the retaliation spots, like the Kurisu chair stuff, whole teams retaliating back and forth. Koshinaka as a face in peril, and not hitting a hip attack until deep in the match to a big pop really worked well. I didn't read the thread beforehand and was pretty disappointed thinking the match ended after the first fall, but nope! Great match, one of my favorites of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawho5 Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 Thing for me about this match was that everyone looked really limited with a few exceptions. But they worked the 10 man tag aspect of ti well enough that you never got too much of the limitations. Everybody got to really play to their strengths and to me it was one of those "sum > parts" kinds of matches because of how it was worked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravJ1979 Posted May 22, 2019 Report Share Posted May 22, 2019 Ignore my post from 2014. WTF was wrong with me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chess Knight Posted April 6 Report Share Posted April 6 You'd maybe think with 20 minutes there'd only be so much that can be done when you need to get at least two falls in and allow everyone to shine, to justify this match even having this many people, but that memo was thrown in the trash. Choshu is obviously the star, but other than maybe Kobayashi I wouldn't say anyone took a backseat and didn't get appropriate highlights. Saito takes some of the most lunatic back-first spills into a barricade from the apron I think I've ever seen. Hamaguchi has a body like a shrivelled Ivan Putski but unlike Putski has as much energy as anybody in the match. Was delighted to see Hoshino again after all these years removed from the NJPW 80s set; he's such a fun and energetic offensive wrestler. Kurisu becomes furious out of nowhere when Koshinaka gets spilled to the outside and drills chair shots into his head and might even try to spit at the referee when reprimanded. Kurisu actually was the most booed guy in the match which ruled and made every moment with him memorable. Koshinaka kind of felt your New Japan Kikuchi by taking a shit kicking and needing to tag out to someone else on the more babyface-feeling team, before later getting the second fall for his own group. We get moments of bedlam and anybody breaking the rules at any given moment pretty much through the whole run time. The set up for the finish was phenomenal, with Kurisu getting struck by surprise to a massive reaction. Must-see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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