Loss Posted June 27, 2013 Report Posted June 27, 2013 Daniel Bryan may never turn into a huge draw, but his push to the top is still in progress, and it's ridiculous to call this a failure based on one television rating. That reactionary mindset is really how wrestling ended up in the doldrums that it's in. It's interesting how Vince is always patient with big guys he's pushing on top, but a small guy being pushed on top who isn't an immediate huge sensation is cause for panic.
Sidebottom Posted June 27, 2013 Report Posted June 27, 2013 That mentality drives me nuts as well. Not everything is a home run and some soups take longer to boil than others. Daniel Bryan is the best thing in the WWE for my money right now, absolutely world class.
Hollinger. Posted June 27, 2013 Report Posted June 27, 2013 I also missed most of the main event because game 7 of the Stanley Cup was busy being apeshit. I'm guessing I'm not alone.
KrisZ Posted June 27, 2013 Report Posted June 27, 2013 And that NHL game did the best rating they have done in 19 years. I wouldn't worry about Bryan too much because he will get his match with Cena and you can best believe that they will make that work the best way possible.
anarchistxx Posted June 27, 2013 Report Posted June 27, 2013 I wonder if they do things like putting Daniel Bryan against a massive sports game in the knowledge the ratings will be low, and they won't have to listen to calls to push him anymore? I doubt Randy Orton is getting any of the blame for the slump.
Jmare007 Posted June 27, 2013 Report Posted June 27, 2013 I may be wrong, but wasn't Meltzer doing the same speech with Punk after his big push started? Constantly reminding people about he's not a "backstage favorite" and how his low ratings could probably mean he was never going to be a real main event guy for the company. It's just 1 rating and it wasn't a disaster. It was just mediocre and, as Dylan said, that's expected when you have Randy Orton involved. What I hate about ratings breakdown is how Dave never makes a big deal when an "internet darling" is involved in a good rating gain but when it's about losing viewers or not a big enough gain it's something really bad. It's whatever at this point though, month ago he was saying Henry was in doghouse and he's now gonna main event against Juanito at MITB
Guest TheGreatPuma Posted June 27, 2013 Report Posted June 27, 2013 And that NHL game did the best rating they have done in 19 years. I wouldn't worry about Bryan too much because he will get his match with Cena and you can best believe that they will make that work the best way possible. Bryan also brings a lot of crowd interaction and electricity with the "Yes/No" chants which make the WWE experience a lot more fun. Plus his persona is so interesting and his wrestling right now is off the chain so he's going to be in an important of the WWE for quite awhile yet. Plus with Cena they might do all sorts of soap opera stuff with the Bella twins. After he's been dancing with Cena for awhile, Bryan's name is going to be pretty strong with the fans and the WWE so yeah, I'm not worried about Daniel Bryan either. Plus, he's the American Dragon. He'll make it work.
goodhelmet Posted June 28, 2013 Report Posted June 28, 2013 This Bryan Daniel talk depresses me but I remember when Cena vs. Bryan took place at a RAW I attended last year. Here is Meltzer's breakdown on the ratings for the August 6th, 2012 RAW... Raw on 8/6 did a 3.09 rating and 4.37 million viewers, so the rating was identical to the prior week but viewers were down. The show was third for the night on cable. The Olympics were lower than expected with a 15.84 rating and 26.57 million viewers, down from the 18.04 rating and 31.58 million viewers the prior week. For Raw, the three hours were 2.80, 3.26 and 3.19. There were no monster segments and there was a third hour fade, with the peak being the Brock Lesnar/HHH/Shawn Michaels segment and a rare disappointing John Cena close against Daniel Bryan. -Stuff- And John Cena vs. Daniel Bryan gained 345,000 viewers, which is not a strong overrun segment, finishing at 3.27.
Strummer Posted June 28, 2013 Report Posted June 28, 2013 I'm bummed about the Bryan news. I know many will disagree but Hunter having power will probably at least help him in the short term. It sucks that Vince is still stuck in the "seeing a wrestler in the airport" mindset but I think with Hunter having say it will at least give him a chance. According to Meltz (through rajah) the Bellas will be involved in the Bryan/Cena buildup. I'm actually looking forward to that.
flyonthewall2983 Posted June 28, 2013 Report Posted June 28, 2013 I don't believe one iota the low rating will affect Bryan much. When two of your top talents (hometown guys or not) probably spent more time watching the game than the show, they would have had to know how huge the game was.
Jmare007 Posted June 28, 2013 Report Posted June 28, 2013 I guess this should put an end to this? https://twitter.com/ShawnMichaels/status/350721205394878464 Hammerlock @TheVertebreaker 2h @ShawnMichaels Really? Can you tell me who you were talking about? Shawn Michaels @ShawnMichaels @TheVertebreaker. No, but remarkably, he's 6'3 250, I made my point. Please be careful, what you read/assume is likely inaccurate. https://twitter.com/ShawnMichaels/status/350738846335512576 wcw/wwf Fan @WWF_WCW_Fan 45min @ShawnMichaels shawn vince is stupid if he doesn't think dbryan is the new face of wwe. Hes the most over guy in wwe right now. Shawn Michaels @ShawnMichaels @WWF_WCW_Fan. That isn't even who we were talking about. He's big on DB. Shame y'all let those folks work you like that. #thinkforyourself
rovert Posted June 29, 2013 Report Posted June 29, 2013 Joe Hennig? Would a closer guess than Ziggler or Cesaro if you take HBK's power of estimation and wikipedia as gospel. Curt Hennig was a great mentor to Shawn so I could see Shawn going to bat for his son. Also as rumoured: Hope he lands on his feet. If he hasn't already!
Marty Posted June 29, 2013 Report Posted June 29, 2013 Closest guys (billed) to the dimensions Shawn states on the roster are Sandow, McIntyre and Fandango, I think.
Marty Posted June 29, 2013 Report Posted June 29, 2013 They bill Fandango at 250? lol http://www.wwe.com/superstars/fandango 244, 6'4". I think it's funny too. But trying to connect the dots to what Michaels said.
Slasher Posted June 29, 2013 Report Posted June 29, 2013 I think it's Sandow. He's someone that has somewhat of a push, has a following, but has a gimmick that I can see Vince thinking it isn't a moneymaking one.
anarchistxx Posted July 2, 2013 Report Posted July 2, 2013 This opening segment on Raw is exactly what is bad about WWE promos and characters. Stilted, forced and totally scripted beyond belief, with the mandatory embarrassingly bad jokes and terrible lines that make you wonder who is getting paid to write this shit. There is nothing that comes across as natural. Even someone like Daniel Bryan who has genuine charisma and likability comes over badly, seeming like he is just reading off a cue. There is no honesty or believability in the words. Doesn't help that they have to get the WWE buzzwords and jargon in to force down people's throats - the phrase "Money In The Bank All Star Ladder Match" must have been repeated about six times, no doubt we will be told shortly how it is trending on Twitter.
anarchistxx Posted July 2, 2013 Report Posted July 2, 2013 Doesn't help that they are all faces either, the crowd doesn't really know what to do. CM Punk got the biggest pop by an absolute mile though out of the six guys, still surprises me how over he is.
Guest Staples Posted July 2, 2013 Report Posted July 2, 2013 So...Ryback is officially killed off, right? They buried him and pissed on the grave.
sek69 Posted July 2, 2013 Report Posted July 2, 2013 Having the monster heel quit mid-match and not have it be leading up to some angle to get the heat back makes it seem like someone's not getting a free pass on the Wellness test anymore.
Johnny Sorrow Posted July 2, 2013 Report Posted July 2, 2013 That Mark Henry career retrospective/ hype video was fucking awesome. Edit: And Holy Fuck, that Henry promo was off the charts. Oh, and I'm loving how they're having Vickie be this poor befuddled woman who's just trying to do her job but is pulled three different ways by McMahons who are giving mixed signals. It's a shout out to the internet who constantly read/ hear stories about how the writing team receives the same treatment. Shit, Vince yelling at Vickie for "giving away that main event and not saving it for PPV" was smark talking point #35. edit: Stephanie complaining about the "woman denigrating" stuff is #27. Oh and Cesaro's Flair trunks ruled, as did Dutch's joke about how the defeat of DOMA will lead America to it's knees.
rovert Posted July 2, 2013 Report Posted July 2, 2013 Love this picture of Sami Callihan driving overnight on his way to report to NXT along with his cat Lucha Kitty:
rovert Posted July 4, 2013 Report Posted July 4, 2013 Huh? Isn't that Del Sol's cat? Retraction I wish to apologise to Lucha Kitty: https://twitter.com/luchakitty for confusing its parentage.
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