(BP) Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 Yeah, I didn't think closing with Steph/Brie was a hot idea either, but that ruled and the crowd was way into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 maybe Im in the minority but I really liked the segment with Jericho and Steph/Hunter. Brought back some fun memories of some fun segments 15 years ago (and admittedly some poor ones) the final angle was predictable but crowd seem to love it (they were hot for most everything tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chief Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 Anybody else think "cosmic key" means they're calling up Cody's wife to add to their team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cm funk Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 maybe Im in the minority but I really liked the segment with Jericho and Steph/Hunter. Brought back some fun memories of some fun segments 15 years ago (and admittedly some poor ones) the final angle was predictable but crowd seem to love it (they were hot for most everything tonight That was great. Jericho was the perfect guy to come out and mock and antagonize them And yeah, it was a great crowd. REALLY adds to the show when a crowd is that hot and can sustain it over the 3+ hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 I hope it's a key to a locker with a pink slip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chief Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 I hope it's a key to a locker with a pink slip. You don't want Cody and Dustin on the roster? Ok... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 I don't want this Stardust wrestlecrap going any further, that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 maybe Im in the minority but I really liked the segment with Jericho and Steph/Hunter. Brought back some fun memories of some fun segments 15 years ago (and admittedly some poor ones) the final angle was predictable but crowd seem to love it (they were hot for most everything tonight That was great. Jericho was the perfect guy to come out and mock and antagonize them And yeah, it was a great crowd. REALLY adds to the show when a crowd is that hot and can sustain it over the 3+ hours I always thought Jericho and Steph had pretty great chemistry together. That's why when they finally put them together in the buildup to WM 18 it was quite disappointing (Lucy the dog). Again, I'm losing my mind that most of their fun segments happened nearly 15 years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artDDP Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 There were moments of tonight's "Raw" that I really enjoyed and there were plenty more that I just left the room during and didn't bother to rewind and watch again. I really don't think someone like Roman Reigns should be getting beaten down like that by Randy Orton or anyone right now. It's just lazy booking that they seem to be resorting to the same methods month after month to stretch out second-tier feuds. I don't mind the Stephanie-Brie segment being the feature tonight since the crowd was eating that up. I think it's amazing that after 15 years Stephanie getting her comeuppance is still a viable angle. Is Cesaro going to be rebuilt now or did John Cena just have a competitive match with the same guy who was getting beaten cleanly by Kofi Kingston a few weeks in a row? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anarchistxx Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 I actually think it is nice that a Divas feud is being given top billing. Not only does it promote and improve the division, it also makes a change from the same old stars ending the show. People complain about how homogenous the WWE can get, so surely it is good they are trying something different, especially as the feud is pretty over? It has the added bonus of keeping Daniel Bryan in the spotlight despite his injury, and promoting Total Divas On Raw you had a long promo by Paige and a segment with her and AJ, a Divas match and a long segment based around a women's match at the end. Refreshing. Now they need to start actually building feuds around the division - part of the reason nobody gives a shit about womens matches is because they are never built to or focused on as serious feuds. They should be less segregatonist as well, and start to involve the divas in mens feuds and vice versa. One of the best things about WWE circa 2000 was that everything intertwined, just about everyone on the roster interacted with everyone else at some stage. In WWE today you have all these different strands that never ever intertwine, and it would feel a lot fresher if they were able to focus on several things at once and write something a bit more complex instead of 'Bo Dallas segment', 'Rusev segment', 'Adam Rose' segment. And nobody is getting over in segments with Damien Sandow & The Miz, give new guys the rub by putting them with people already over. First Raw I've watched in two months, and sad to say it hasn't improved. Even fast forwarding it felt like such a slog. That Fandango segment is indicitave of how little they have to fill three hours, the epitome of filler. The big segments like Orton beating down Reings were re-runs of every single feud for the last decade, surely they can get more creative than 'random beatdown, put through the announce table'. That does absolutely nothing to promote the match at Summerslam, and if anything takes away from it. Just screams like creative can't think of anything for the feud, so just has a purposeless beatdown to kill time until the PPV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anarchistxx Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 I did smile when Jericho's music hit during a Triple-H/Stephanie segment. Total throwback to 2000/2001. Steph is by far the best mic worker in WWE right now, she performed the last segment brilliantly. Her losing control at the end was almost cathartic given the controlled, smug heel performances she has been putting in. Who would have known she would be in the hottest feud in the promotion in 2014? She has carried WWE with her talking this year, especially with Daniel Bryan being pretty awkward on the stick, gave him something to play off. If Stephanie vs Trish at No Way Out 2001 is their blueprint, it should be a really fun match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillThompson Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 I don't want this Stardust wrestlecrap going any further, that's for sure. I think the Dust Brothers have been pretty much the best non-Titus O'Neill thing going in the WWE for the past couple of months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badlittlekitten Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 I'm starting to turn on the Dust Brothers. It's getting a bit embarrassing week after week. Have they done anything yet? What am I missing. Are they working the b shows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollinger. Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 At the moment it's mostly promos about the Cosmic Key. They're building to something... what? Who knows. I dig the gimmick, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chief Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 At the moment it's mostly promos about the Cosmic Key. They're building to something... what? Who knows. I dig the gimmick, though. That's kind of why I'm digging them. Because I have no clue where any of it is going and unpredictability is something that has been lacking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 I don't want this Stardust wrestlecrap going any further, that's for sure. I think the Dust Brothers have been pretty much the best non-Titus O'Neill thing going in the WWE for the past couple of months. They haven't done anything in a month. I concede, when the bell rings, they're good. Goldust obviously being better. My problem is all the out of ring stuff. These "comedy" vignettes & whatnot. Stardust just looks like a moron. I guess I don't "get it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cm funk Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 On today's radio show Meltzer absolutely RIPPED Cena's performance in the match with Ceasaro for poor timing and execution and blown spots. I must have watched a different match, it seemed like your usual Cena performance to me, he's never been about looking smooth and having great execution, and was a good match. He even admitted the crowd was super into it so in that sense it was good, but he was comparing it to an ECW spotfest that doesn't hold up, and like something you'd see on the indies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russellmania Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 Cena's execution in the match was pretty sloppy, but it didn't ruin the match. I will say that their first match from February was better and the difference was probably just the overall sloppiness of the 2nd match, but this one was still a really good match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 I liked the match, but it also told me that it's a good thing we haven't seen these two feud. Outside of strength spots, there's not really much they can do to make the matches distinct from each other. Cesaro was fine in that match, but he is also a guy that hasn't improved his ability as a heel in the past six months. I'm starting to think the upper midcard is the right place for him. Please don't read that to mean he shouldn't be protected, as I feel like in theory, that's a good spot on the card that shouldn't make for a bad career. It's more that his matches tend to be all about the spots and impressive feats of strength more than generating any type of emotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pantherwagner Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 So, is Brie Bella the worst actress (/actor) in WWE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 On today's radio show Meltzer absolutely RIPPED Cena's performance in the match with Ceasaro for poor timing and execution and blown spots. I must have watched a different match, it seemed like your usual Cena performance to me, he's never been about looking smooth and having great execution, and was a good match. He even admitted the crowd was super into it so in that sense it was good, but he was comparing it to an ECW spotfest that doesn't hold up, and like something you'd see on the indies I've seen this across the internet and I don't get it. Yeah, Cena's "look at me WRESTLING" spots didn't look gracefully .. were they supposed to? They looked fine, weren't awkward and had their place in the match that they were worked into well. It struck me as more gritty than sloppy. Never did I feel like the flow of the match was interrupted so I don't know what Meltzer means by Cena's timing. And of course on the home stretch everything was executed perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 It all looked like the same stuff Cena's never that crisp on but does fine at. I was actually really impressed with his counter to the swing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBadMick Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 So, is Brie Bella the worst actress (/actor) in WWE? She's more dated than anything else. Shouting your retorts was perfectly acceptable in mid 80s WWF..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedEagle Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 So, is Brie Bella the worst actress (/actor) in WWE? I was talking to a friend last night during her promo and couldn't decide if she was great or beyond terrible. She's not bad at conveying emotion, but it almost seems like she has zero control over what she's going to emphasize. Kind of like Brick Tamland screaming "LOUD NOISES" with no idea why he's doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eduardo James Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 On today's radio show Meltzer absolutely RIPPED Cena's performance in the match with Ceasaro for poor timing and execution and blown spots. I must have watched a different match, it seemed like your usual Cena performance to me, he's never been about looking smooth and having great execution, and was a good match. He even admitted the crowd was super into it so in that sense it was good, but he was comparing it to an ECW spotfest that doesn't hold up, and like something you'd see on the indies Meltzer also called that awful Ken Anderson vs Kurt Angle cage match from a few years ago 4 and 1/2 stars. I know taste is subjective, but that was pretty much the end of taking his opinion as anything worthwhile for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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