jcmmnx Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 The crowd gave less than a fuck about Reigns in that main event. I can't imagine what the post Mania feud with Show will be like. Vince must be shitting bricks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yo-Yo's Roomie Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Never got the love for Steph as a great heel during this run. Far too interested in putting herself over at the expense of the wrestlers. At least 2000 Steph would let the faces get over on her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 I think Stephanie's initial onscreen run made her really insecure about her perception as an executive, and she feels the need to put herself above the roster on TV. That said, she's pretty great the 1-2 times a year where she has a meltdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbo Slice Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Joe to WWE is imminent says according to Meltz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedEagle Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 WWE or NXT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 To be fair I think we are at the point where Steph is at least being slightly overrated. I saw a bunch of tweets last night that she cut the "promo of the year" on Cena It was good and she is no doubt an excellent heel but people are really going buck wild with hyperbole with her lately. She hasn't done much since coming back 2 months ago. Still the top heel but she has been playing this character the same way for almost 2 full years now. Add in that Vince is writing her promos now (and Hunter's) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbo Slice Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 WWE or NXT? Sounds like NXT and that it'll lead to a coaching spot at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Isn't it kind of odd WWE fought so long to keep Rey from going to AAA/Lucha Underground, only to just let him go seemingly out of nowhere? Maybe Televisa offered to foot his legal bills like they did for Alberto? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbo Slice Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 I almost feel like WWE figured it wasn't worth the time. I could see Televisa stepping in for Rey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Rey's contract expired. They apparently pulled some kind of maneuver to extend his contract without his approval last year, but that just kept him from going elsewhere immediately. There's nothing they could have done now, except maybe find him in breach for his Triplemania stunt. They probably had their hands full with Punk and couldn't be bothered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Great point brought up on CRZ's board. Stewart was clearly about to bring up Ambrose being screwed over by Kane for the briefcase last summer before being cut off. The fans arent supposed to remember or care about that Jon. I'd imagine Vince was screaming in Seth's ear to cut him off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parties Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Not to pile on the bandwagon, but I've never understood the praise for Stephanie's mic work in this run. Seems like people liked parts of the Brie Bella feud and are forgetting how lame her other stuff has been. Even if you excuse that she never does anything to get anyone but herself over - even Authority members like Orton and Rollins - I still don't think the promos and delivery are much to write home about. Is it impressive that a real-life millionaire executive is capable of spouting dull corporate rhetoric? Her only big crowd reactions that I can recall came to her by repeatedly calling Brie a bitch, then beating Brie in their one-and-only match while turning herself babyface for the night in front of her daughter and the Four Horsewomen. That was six months ago. It's not productive heat. It's "go away" heat that makes everyone on the roster look cowardly and dumb. The four weeks in December without the Authority were widely praised. At no point in company history have they skewed the onscreen power dynamic so far in favor of the heels. Let alone heels who never wrestle (or in Hunter's case work 1 or 2 matches a year). Rare moments like Hunter jobbing to Bryan or Steph letting Vickie throw her into mud don't validate bad angles and promos that have now gone on every week, for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Stardust added to IC feud so no Dust brothers match at mania Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Looks like they're dealing with Star vs Gold in the ladder match and Miz vs Mizdow in the battle royal. So it goes. Part of me thinks they're going to have Cena help Axel beat Rusev so that Rusev gives him a match and Cena can beat him without having to take the US title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blehschmidt Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 If they put Axel over Rusev, I will give up ever attempting to figure out what this company has in mind, because it will be absolute proof that no one has a fucking clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 If they put Axel over Rusev, I will give up ever attempting to figure out what this company has in mind, because it will be absolute proof that no one has a fucking clue. Whereas I, if they do it with Cena costing him the belt as speculated above, will think it's a great piece of storytelling. And gives Axel an added push to this gimmick that's getting over, adds to the personal hatred in this Cena/ Rusev feud, and moves Rusev from the US title level to main event level without him cleanly losing the belt...for people who care about that shit. Not that I think that's gonna happen, but I can see it making sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bierschwale Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 It depends on how much value the Cena-Rusev feud adds to the US title. Rusev has to eat a pin EVENTUALLY; I don't think that you can really have that streak go until a World title match at SummerSlam. It being a fluke is as good as it can be, though I think that he then does need to beat Cena at WM, and does anyone buy that happening? Axel might as well be Gillberg in this equation. Is he going to get the US title and break Rusev's streak without being pinned/tapping and then have an incredibly nondescript reign like when he won the IC title in 2013? Is he going to have as close as it could get to an HTM reign in 2015 (which, with their terrible booking of secondary titles, really won't be meaningful)? The problem is that they consistently provide reason not to have any faith in their booking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyonthewall2983 Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 http://pwinsider.com/article/92051/second-letter-of-allegations-against-wwes-bill-demott-leaks-online-chris-jericho-ec3-others-comment-on-situation.html?p=1 So sad how Jericho's become a kiss-ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedEagle Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 I don't blame Jericho. He knows where his bread is buttered, even if he's only coming to the table a few times a year. Why should we expect candor on this topic from someone interested in an income stream from the company? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantastic Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Does anybody think there's a very real possibility that Dolph Ziggler will never be the WWE World Heavyweight Champion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbo Slice Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Definitely. Never or ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantastic Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 It seems like such a waste, I can't help feeling that Ziggler needs some kind of reinvention though, maybe that might change things for him? Hell, maybe a switch to tights from trunks and a new hairstyle (keeping the blonde though) with a bit more attitude, better entrance music, and dropping that awful finisher (the Zig Zag) might be the key? Ziggler's popular with the audience because he's an incredible athlete and has a natural charismatic aura about him, although it's potential simply isn't utilised by WWE to proper effect. In order to do so, it would require some significant investment by the creative team, which they aren't prepared to do with anybody outside of Reigns, Cena, and Rollins at the moment. That WHC run in 2013, in hindsight, merely seemed like a brief reward for his hard work over the previous year. A little pat on the back for busting his ass getting others over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parties Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 The US title needs Cena more than Axel needs the US title. If you only put it on undeserving jobbers via fluke distraction wins, it's worthless. The role of "Cena's naive buddy" didn't work wonders for Ryder, Kofi, Sydal, Big E, etc, etc. Now if you had Cena win the title, gave Axel continued credibility over the next few months, and then had Axel be the one to beat Cena for it - then sure, they'll have done something to put someone new over. There are a dozen guys more deserving than Axel, and I personally don't think the Axelmania gimmick is going anywhere, but if he's the guy - fine. But the belt needs to first gain value from the less-than-zero it's at now, and Axel winning it as the C-plot of a match happening in three weeks is counterproductive. (Which means it's almost certainly what they'll end up doing.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerpride Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 If they put Axel over Rusev, I will give up ever attempting to figure out what this company has in mind, because it will be absolute proof that no one has a fucking clue. Whereas I, if they do it with Cena costing him the belt as speculated above, will think it's a great piece of storytelling. And gives Axel an added push to this gimmick that's getting over, adds to the personal hatred in this Cena/ Rusev feud, and moves Rusev from the US title level to main event level without him cleanly losing the belt...for people who care about that shit. Not that I think that's gonna happen, but I can see it making sense. That would be a horrible piece of storytelling and would make zero sense, all while cheapening Rusev's year-long reign. I mean, holy crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMJ Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Does anybody think there's a very real possibility that Dolph Ziggler will never be the WWE World Heavyweight Champion? Really real. I like Ziggler more than many people on this thread, but in the age of One World Championship, being the number 5-6 guy on the roster's pecking order is just not enough to be considered for the title. I mean, right now, as it is, you've got Cena, Reigns, Orton, and Bryan ahead of him. Then, on the heel side, you have Rollins and Rusev (not to mention Lesnar, who is probably on his way out, and Wyatt, who I don't see as a World Champion-type guy). Throw in Sheamus and Ambrose as guys that could, if they get hot, return to the main event scene in 2016 (if not sooner). Plus, we've now seen TWO part-timers win the big one (Lesnar and Rock), so, Triple H doing it isn't as absurd as it should be. As this is wrestling, if things get stale, you just flip one of the top guys from heel-to-face and Ziggler's spot remains where it is. It is completely realistic to me to think the next couple YEARS of champions are going to be an amalgamation of Reigns, Rollins, and Cena, with Orton in the mix too. Maybe Bryan if he gets hot again. Maybe Ambrose if he gets as hot as he was last summer. Ziggler is going to have to leapfrog a bunch of talent in order to rise to that upper, upper level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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