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Terry Funk sits down with Bill Apter to cover his career highpoints. Topics include: His battles with Jack Brisco, Harley Race, Ric Flair, Jerry Lawler, Abdullah the Butcher and others. How Dory Jr. fought to get Terry the NWA strap, why Funk was willing to harm himself so brutally for the sake of entertainment, the devotion of the Japanese fans, his one and only match against his brother, how a magazine headline got Apter in trouble with Vince McMahon Sr., Road Warrior Hawk's drug use, Bruiser Brody's death, who the best NWA champion ever was and more!

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Bobby "The Brain" Heenan and Jim Cornette deliver over 2 hours of wrestling stories including dressing in drag for angles, working with midget wrestlers, the worst match of Nick Bockwinkel's career, the less than sanitary Sportatorium, why Heenan was blackballed in St. Louis, backstage fights from over the years, Heenan's role in the origin of the "Diamond Cutter" and why Heenan regretted helping DDP, bar fights with MAD DOG VACHON, Wahoo McDaniel fighting fans, Dick the Bruiser screwing with Heenan, why JCP going out of business made Cornette a lot of money, Heenan ribbing Vince McMahon, the night the Barbarian tried to sleep with Mary Tyler Moore, the night the Barbarian fought the police in a drunken rage and more!!

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Did he ever explain as to why he never got a job with WWE in 2001?

 

At the time dirtsheets said he was in negociations but he kept calling the office for a answer and in the end they decided not to give him a job.

 

 

Haven't seen it but I would guess that he didn't leave enough of a good taste in Vince's mouth from his previous run to hire him.

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Ken Shamrock covers his rocky home life growing up poor and fatherless, how Bob Shamrock and sports saved him, his early days training for wrestling with Buzz Sawyer, the beginning of his MMA career in Pancrase, his feuds with Royce Gracie, Tito Ortiz and Dan Severn, his battles with Don Frye and Kimbo, the infamous hotel brawl with the Nasty Boys, how Shamrock feels he'd match up with Brock Lesnar if both men were in their prime, how the Montreal Screwjob ruined Shamrock's WWF run, the WWF wanting to run an incest angle with him, and more!

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Wahoo McDaniel covers his hard fought wars with Billy Graham, Ric Flair, Johnny Valentine and others as he traveled around the world as a headline star. He also touches on his early days in the NFL, the lengths he'd go to in order to be properly paid by promoters, why JCP failed, the unique experience of watching he and Ric Flair's sons wrestle one another in school, Lex Luger's vanity, wacky times with Dick Murdoch and Manny Fernandez, riots, the fans attacking the heels, adventures with wrestling bears and more!!

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Back to the Territories with Savio Vega is a must listen for Vega's story about the Brody murder. It paints a pretty shady picture of Victor Jovica to say the least… (and Colon, not much better, but that was known)

 

(EDIT : it's really the main thing too, as they really don't get into much details about the history and go into tangent like talking about Eddie Gilbert)

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Back to the Territories with Savio Vega is a must listen for Vega's story about the Brody murder. It paints a pretty shady picture of Victor Jovica to say the least… (and Colon, not much better, but that was known)

 

(EDIT : it's really the main thing too, as they really don't get into much details about the history and go into tangent like talking about Eddie Gilbert)

The murder portion is on youtube. It runs about 18 mins. I think I'm going to hold off watching it until I get the whole shoot.

 

"Hacksaw" Jim Duggan takes us through his early days as a stud athlete, being broken in by Fritz Von Erich, how family connections got him a gig with the WWWF, life traveling the territories, homesteading in Mid-South, fighting with the fans as a heel, being arrested with the Iron Sheik while riding together, his subsequent firing which saw him nearly go to the NWA, the JCP/WWF war, being picked to win the first Royal Rumble, knocking Andre the Giant out on TV, the Ultimate Warrior's diva behavior, and more!
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"Mean Gene" covers a range of topics including Macho Man's relationship with Elizabeth, breaking in with the AWA, the Russian monster that was suppose to face Hogan before everything fell apart, the WWF taking all of the AWA stars and how Verne handled business meetings with departing talent, what role Gene could play today if he were still in his prime, Pat Patterson's genius, the toughest guys to get a decent promo out of, life with Andre, being an eyewitness to David Schultz attacking a reporter, his uncordial WWF departure, what story caused the WCW hotline to be flooded with calls, Legend's house, the Hall of Fame, sex tapes and more!

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It's more about the things they think will sell that they can make a bit of money on. The ideas are still there.

 

I suggested an AWA 1984 recap with Jim Brunzell, for example. Great year in the AWA with so much talent leaving and debuting, tons going on, lots of potential backstories about Brody, Abby, Patera, the LOD and the Fabs, Pro Wrestling USA the established guys moving back in the card a bit. And Brunzell was there through it, albeit hurt for part of it (surgery recovery), and he can tell good stories and would have a good chance to share inside knowledge in a lot of cases. (plus he's way more believable than Greg Gagne is, by far. Jim just tells you what he remembers how he remembers it).

 

That was shot down pretty quickly. They seem to feel the market for AWA things isn't really there anymore. Can't blame them really, they may be right, but I am sure there are a lot of specialty years from many areas like that which will never get done with that mindset.

 

That would be why "Back to the Territories" does smaller areas in whole as opposed to individual years.

 

Too bad. But again, it's the market.

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It's more about the things they think will sell that they can make a bit of money on. The ideas are still there.

 

Seriously, who, in the era of free podcast everywhere, would want to pay for this kind of shit ? (hell, I wouldn't even download it for free)

 

 

Bro...

 

While the market is definitely smaller for shoots I think something like this (even though there is nothing valuable to be learned for those who know all about Ken) is more so there for maybe older folks not on the podcast bandwagon and/or don't want to search out audio and enjoy seeing the person being interviewed or those with terrible/no internet who may just rely on physical media at home.

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Barry Darsow and Bill Eadie sit down to cover their run as one of the top teams of the 80's, growing up with a batch of other Minnesota natives who all became wrestlers, Eadie's near death experience which he says verified the fact that there is an afterlife, how Ric Flair helped make Darsow a star, Andre drinking stories, Haku bar fight stories, issues while working with the Road Warriors and Rougeau Brothers, the infamous match in a semi truck bed that led to Darsow being fired from WCW, and more!

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http://culturecrossfire.com/wrestling/kayfabe-lies-alibis-shoot-interview-demolition/

 

Barry Darsow and Bill Eadie sit down to cover their run as one of the top teams of the 80's, growing up with a batch of other Minnesota natives who all became wrestlers, Eadie's near death experience which he says verified the fact that there is an afterlife, how Ric Flair helped make Darsow a star, Andre drinking stories, Haku bar fight stories, issues while working with the Road Warriors and Rougeau Brothers, the infamous match in a semi truck bed that led to Darsow being fired from WCW, and more!

 

Enjoyed this. Thanks!

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It's more about the things they think will sell that they can make a bit of money on. The ideas are still there.

 

Seriously, who, in the era of free podcast everywhere, would want to pay for this kind of shit ? (hell, I wouldn't even download it for free)

 

 

Bro...

 

 

Ken: "incest...and then when you talk about beating up a woman"

Russo: "Who writes this shit? How dare they?"

 

 

What??

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Tully Blanchard touches on his father's early days as a football player, wrestler and promoter. Next Tully's own background in sports, and how it came together when he became a wrestler himself is touched upon. Blanchard covers the many legends of the sport who served as teachers for him as he grew into a regional star and eventually a nationally known heel. The sad story of Blanchard's friend Gino Hernandez and his fall into a world of drugs in the Dallas underground is gone over, which then transitions into Tully's own woeful tale of drugs wrecking his life. Talk of the glory days of the Horsemen drawing big money and living the high life leads into talk of the downfall of JCP. Blanchard's WWF run and his limited return to wrestling finish out the interview. Along the way we hear stories on the Magnum TA feud, why Blanchard refused to put over Terry Funk in WCW, the injury that ended his dabbling with indy dates, helping prisoners reform their lives and more!!

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At the end, he tells Shamrock that the incest angle wasn't his idea, and that it must have been Vince McMahon or JR who came up with it!

 

:rolleyes: Russo has really become a professional troll - that's his occupation now. Even the most casual of wresting fans knows J.R. wouldn't come up with rubbish like that - he prefers a serious sports-like presentation over ridiculous soap opera bullshit. I could see the idea coming from Vince McMahon maybe, but not J.R.

 

 

 

Wow, this is new, right?

 

"The party lifestyle people think the Horsemen lived is a myth. The guys had a hard schedule and by the time they were done wrestling it was late in the evening, and most of the times all that followed was finding some food and having a few beers before bed."

 

The ESPN 30 for 30 documentary on Flair - as well as thousands of other interviews, articles, sources, etc. - give the distinct opposite impression. The Horsemen "party lifestyle" is so woven into wrestling lore, but I guess like everything else in wrestling, it's carny bullshit - assuming "born again" Tully isn't just downplaying his wild past.

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Maybe Tully is just talking about himself and the others not partying every night, and the fact that not every town was Baltimore or Atlanta. I can see Flair closing the bar at the Holiday Inn in Columbus, but perhaps the others were like, " Yeah, think I'll have a couple of beers and hit the sack."

 

Maybe, but the excerpt specifically mentioned the Horsemen, not just Tully. Then again, it was a recap, not a direct quote, so I guess we'd have to hear/read what Tully actually said word-for-word.

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