Dylan Waco Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 If you had to pick one match, as the main event of Beach Blast 92 what would your pick be? This is not some random off the cuff question, as it applies to a bigger (and grandiose) research project I am working on over my spring break. Here is the card: Beach Blast 92 - Mobile, AL - Civic Center - June 20, 1992 (5,000)The Junkyard Dog, Tom Zenk, & Big Josh defeated Tracy Smothers, Richard Morton, & Diamond Dallas PagePay-per-view bouts - featured an opening segment in which Tony Schiavone & Eric Bischoff spoke with Bill Watts on the podium stage in which Watts said Paul E. Dangerously & Madusa would be banned from ringside during the Ricky Steamboat vs. Rick Rude Ironman match; included Jim Ross & Jesse Ventura on commentary; Ventura was escorted ringside before the opening contest by four women in bikinis; featured a segment in which Johnny B. Badd came out and introduced the rules for the bikini contest between Madusa and Missy Hyatt, then telling the fans they could vote by calling the WCW Hotline; Missy and Madusa then came out to show off their evening gowns; included a segment in which Badd brought Missy and Madusa out in their swimsuits; featured Bischoff conducting a podium interview with Ricky Steamboat about his win earlier in the show against WCW US Champion Rick Rude; moments later, Paul E. Dangerously interrupted and said Steamboat had already seen his last US title shot, with Cactus Jack then yanking Steamboat off the podium to the floor; the two then brawled as security intervened and held them apart; included the final contest segment between Missy and Madusa, this time with Ventura as the co-host, in which Madusa was brought out in her bikini; moments later, Missy - from within a dressing room on the set - claimed someone stole her bikini and stole Ventura's head scarves; after teasing Madusa might win the contest via forfeit, Missy came out wearing a bikini in the same design as Ventura's scarves; moments later, Badd proclaimed Missy the winner, with Madusa complaining and shoving Badd into the other dressing room; Badd later emerged holding Madusa's bikini top; it was then noted fans could still vote through midnight and the result would be announced the next day on The Main Event; featured Schiavone & Bischoff hosting the entire event from the interview platform:Scotty Flamingo pinned WCW Light Heavyweight Champion Brian Pillman to win the title at 17:28 with a knee from the middle turnbuckle after the champion failed a crossbody over the top and hit his head on the rampwayRon Simmons pinned Terry Taylor with the powerslam at 7:10; prior to the bout, Tony Schiavone mentioned Simmons received the key to the city of Tallahassee, FL earlier in the day; after the contest, Jim Ross conducted a ringside interview with Simmons in which Simmons said his goal was to be world champion and he was living proof that it doesn't matter where you come from or what your poverty level is, you can still be a successGreg Valentine defeated Marcus Alexander Bagwell via submission with the figure-4 leglock at 6:16 after dropping Bagwell onto his injured kneeWCW World Champion Sting pinned Cactus Jack in a non-title falls count anywhere match at 11:23 with a clothesline from the top rope onto the rampway (Falls Count Anywhere: The Greatest Street Fights and other Out of Control Matches)Ricky Steamboat defeated WCW US Champion Rick Rude in a non-title 30-minute Ironman match at 29:59, 4-3; prior to the bout, Steamboat came to the ring with his wife and young son; fall #1: Rude pinned Steamboat with a knee to the jaw and grabbing the tights for leverage at 7:42; fall #2: Rude pinned Steamboat with the Rude Awakening at 8:39; fall #3: Rude was disqualified for coming off the top with a kneedrop at 9:40; fall #4: Rude pinned Steamboat with an inside cradle at 10:11; fall #5: Steamboat pinned Rude after reversing a tombstone piledriver into one of his own at 17:38; fall #6: Steamboat pinned Rude with a backslide at 20:21; fall #7: Steamboat pinned Rude by kicking off the turnbuckle as he was caught in a sleeper at 29:24 (Ricky Steamboat: The Life of the Dragon)Barry Windham, Dustin Rhodes, & Nikita Koloff defeated WCW TV Champion Steve Austin, Arn Anderson, & Bobby Eaton (w/ Paul E. Dangerously) via disqualification at 15:31 when referee Ole Anderson stopped the match after seeing Arn come off the top with a double axe handle to Windham, moments after Windham hit a superplex on Austin from the middle turnbuckle; prior to the bout, an on screen graphic noted the referee was "Olie Anderson;" during the contest, it was noted Madusa was beating Missy, 51% to 49% in the WCW Hotline poll; after the match, Rhodes, Windham, & Koloff cleared the ring of their opponentsWCW Tag Team Champions Rick & Scott Steiner fought Steve Williams & Terry Gordy to a 30-minute time-limit draw just as Scott hit the Frankensteiner on Gordy Normally my default answer would be either the last match on, or the world title match, but I think you can make a strong case for Steamboat v. Rude. Let's see if PWO can help me choose just one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boondocks Kernoodle Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 I remember WCW Magazine billing Steamboat-Rude as the main event, so I guess that would be it. However, if I had sequenced the show, Sting-Cactus would have gone on last. Not sure why the title wasn't on the line in that one. Also, I know it was the right decision for Steamboat to go over in the Iron Man match, and it wasn't the time for Rude to lose the belt, but from a kayfabe standpoint, I don't think it makes much sense for that to have been a non-title match. Perhaps it was explained well on TV at the time. For what it's worth, the reason why neither of those matches went last is that both Steamboat and Cactus had to come out later for their angle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badlittlekitten Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 I watched this just recently and it struck me then how Rude/Steamboat felt like the main. I've said it before but I hated the fact the show closed with a 30 min draw, just after a 30 min iron man of all things. Watt's scatterbrained booking made it feel like there was no main event acts during that period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 Rude/Steamer easily and it was the only real match on the home video cover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 I think I'd go with Sting/Cactus just because it's hard to call a singles match involving the world champion not the main event, even if it's a non-title match. And I think the title wasn't on the line because of the gimmick, and the feeling it devalued the credibility of the title to have it decided in a falls count anywhere match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victory Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 The WCW mag ad had a cartoon picture of Steamboat vs. Rude. So I would go with that. Much more stock should go in ads back then compared to now. I guess you could make a case for Sting vs. Cactus since Sting was Champ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 The reason why Steiners/MVC went on last was because of the Clash 4 days earlier with the wacky NWA Tag Titles tourney which that whole show made no sense to run 4 days before a PPV that they barely even talked about....a lot of people talk about that Cleveland Clash before Chi-Town Rumble but this one was just as bad if not worse. The one big difference is that the NWA TT Clash had some damn good matches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted March 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 So far here are the vote totals including twitter nine for the Iron Man 1 for the MVC match 1 for Cactus v. Sting What is notable is that a couple of people who picked the Iron Man sort of implied that MVC v. Steiners would be their "other" pick. I'm hoping I get a few more thoughts in here, but by eight unless there is a large swing the other way I'm going with the Iron Man. Now everyone keep talking about the show since the thread is here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boondocks Kernoodle Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 The reason why Steiners/MVC went on last was because of the Clash 4 days earlier with the wacky NWA Tag Titles tourney which that whole show made no sense to run 4 days before a PPV that they barely even talked about....a lot of people talk about that Cleveland Clash before Chi-Town Rumble but this one was just as bad if not worse. The one big difference is that the NWA TT Clash had some damn good matches. The Clash was taped four days before Beach Blast, but it aired two days after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 Damn how did I forget that was a taped show......thanks for the correction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoe Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 The Iron Man was on all the magazine inserts and posters . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Boricua Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 I've always though it was Sting vs. Cactus Jack. But the best indicator is what match is highlighted in the ads when space and/or time is at a premium. I just watched a commercial that aired on TBS for the show on June 6th (it's part of a commercial compilation on youtube). In the short ad, they first mentioned the Rude vs. Steamboat Iron Man match, then Sting vs. Cactus. Those were the only two mentioned. If you watch the Beach Blast 92 PPV pre-show, when they do the card rundown, the first match mentioned is Rude vs. Steamboat, followed by Sting vs. Cactus. Going by this, the video box and what others have said about the ads, I'd have to agree that Rude vs. Steamboat seems to be the highlighted match, with Sting vs. Cactus being the semi-main. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 I don't like going by the video box because that is post-PPV when they know what matches paid off. If the ads had Steamboat-Rude as the main, no reason to disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 Yeah, agreed with goodhelmet, especially in WCW. Sometimes, there were pictures of matches that weren't even on the show on WCW video boxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 Hah! I have to look at the box for GAB 2000... Sting vs. Vampiro is on the box when the Jarrett vs. Nash match with the Goldberg heel turn was the main event draw. BATB has Hogan and Booker T on the cover. The main was supposed to be Hogan vs. Jarrett. Hell, they should have put Vince Russo on the cover. WCW... a fucking joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 Rude-Steamer. Sting wasn't even really feuding with Cactus at the time, so it was a bit of a throw-away. His feuds that year had been (i) Rude, (ii) Dangerous Allience including Rude, and (iii) Vader. The Cactus match was a way to get Sting on the card while not giving away Sting vs Vader which was the headline of the Bash the next month. The tag title match was something that Watts slapped together because it gave him a woody to see all those tough guys go at it. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jushin muta liger Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 From what I barely remember as a kid I think Steamboat vs Rude was the main event heading to that show. Hah! I have to look at the box for GAB 2000... Sting vs. Vampiro is on the box when the Jarrett vs. Nash match with the Goldberg heel turn was the main event draw. BATB has Hogan and Booker T on the cover. The main was supposed to be Hogan vs. Jarrett. Hell, they should have put Vince Russo on the cover. WCW... a fucking joke. It's funny cause Badlittlekitten mentioned Watts booking and it reminded me of Russo's shoot interview with Wade Keller. Russo basically said Watts took him under his wing when Watts worked for the brief time at WWE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dylan Waco Posted March 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 Unrelated, but still semi-related note - Bash at the Beach 95 was a free show right? People weren't actually paying to walk up on the beach and watch it were they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 It's funny cause Badlittlekitten mentioned Watts booking and it reminded me of Russo's shoot interview with Wade Keller. Russo basically said Watts took him under his wing when Watts worked for the brief time at WWE. Obviously he didn't have enough time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 Unrelated, but still semi-related note - Bash at the Beach 95 was a free show right? People weren't actually paying to walk up on the beach and watch it were they? Correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted March 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 Claiming 100k there has to be one of my all time favorite "you've got to be fucking kidding me" wrestling claims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 My favorite WCW story is still when Starrcade '94 sold out the arena and most front office employees had never seen such a thing happen. So many of them were posing in front of the building for pictures all day holding a sign that said "Sold Out". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jushin muta liger Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 It's funny cause Badlittlekitten mentioned Watts booking and it reminded me of Russo's shoot interview with Wade Keller. Russo basically said Watts took him under his wing when Watts worked for the brief time at WWE. Obviously he didn't have enough time. From what I remember from the shoot, by the end of Watts' employment, he used to bring Russo into the booking/creative meetings with McMahon and everybody. This is the time where Russo was writing for WWF magazine as Vic Venom. Russo said out of the blue, Watts was gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 Unrelated, but still semi-related note - Bash at the Beach 95 was a free show right? People weren't actually paying to walk up on the beach and watch it were they? Freebie. We were there for that one: Dave, Wade, Bruce, Yohe, Hoback and me. About as bad of a show as any of us ever saw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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