Strummer Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 Dave thinks they will have no choice butto turn Reigns heel. At least he was severely implying that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 You can't say this was a bad PPV because we had a match of the year contender with the Triple Threat match that will be a match of the year contender for a long time But again the last thing people will remember is the thing people aren't interested in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownNDirtyTN Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 If they wanted to send the Philly crowd home happy the title match would have went on last. Brock is their biggest face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkdoc Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 No one has mentioned Bryan in the post show. No one. He's not in focus. No one has mentions Bray either. Completely bizarre. Vince talked about listening to the crowd, so what the fuck was that?  this is what we've been trying to tell you a hundred times before in other threads  so congratulations, you finally understand the modern WWE experience! vince was personally scripting reigns' recent godawful promos that helped put him in this position, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stiva Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 You know, I'd be intrigued to see them try and turn Rock heel and be Reigns mouthpiece against a face Lesnar... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 I don't like current emaciated Rock, no eyebrows, bald, skinny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrainfollower Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 WWE has been steadily losing business for years. Its time is coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shining Wiz Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 One good/great match, a bunch of filler, and the worst Rumble ever.......not a good show. Â They may not be on the verge of going out of business, but not for a lack of trying. They have guys on the roster the crowd is into. They have a couple of strong heels. But they refuse to capitalize on that for some unknown reason. With the roster they have, I should be at the zenith of my adult fandom, but at this point I tune in for schadenfreude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 I really can't tell if Rock and Reigns are being heels in this Tom Phillips interview or he is legit pissed off at the shody work in this interview Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 Thus begins Roman's main event push as Rock's unpopular friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shining Wiz Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 ....when I do tune in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chief Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 Nobody who is the future even did anything noticeable besides Reigns. No cool spots, no cool eliminations, moments, nothing. Â In the post show were talking about records that Big Show and Kane set. What the FUCK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conker8 Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 Like last year, I kind of like this Rumble. At least, it wasn't boring like in the mid 90's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillThompson Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 Seriously what the fuck is this? Â It's Vince showing that he's not out of touch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 So much fun. So much angst. There was a point In the rumble where the suspension of disbelief was gone. We weren't even watching a match anymore. It was so surreal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anarchistxx Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 It is funny because in every documentary they do on Steve Austin they have Vince as a talking head saying "In the end the crowd decides, the crowd makes the decision for us. And they always make the right decision." Wonder where that policy went. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exposer Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 I feel bad for Reigns. This is the grave for him and that's too bad. It was amazing to watch WWE try to cover the heat on him throughout the match and post-match. Bryan early elimination, Rusev last guy to eliminate, Authority's Big Show and Kane to throw out, Rock endorsing him, and Trips and Steph showing up on the ramp at the end. It was incredible to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 They don't have an out for Bryan this year in HHH because he's married to Sting. If they fix this it's going to be a total cluster of fuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anarchistxx Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 Â Â Totally pathetic. Vince's death is the only small chance this company has to live at this point. Â I always laugh at hyperbolic posts like this. WWE will be alive for decades if not centuries, it is a huge multinational corporation with an incredibly loyal fanbase who tune in every week despite the consistently awful booking. Â Every person in this thread has probably vowed never to watch again after some terrible show that wasted their time or unfair treatment of a worker ofr awful booking decision. Â Â How many new fans are they getting though? How many kids tuning in for John Cena keep up with the product after they turn, say, 12 without the memories the older fans have that keep them loyal. Â Â A lot of kids probably are tuning out at age twelve. That is nothing new, all my friends did in 2001/2002 when we turned that age and the attitude era died down. They will always get new fans, especially the children of the adults who are fans. The product is still aimed towards the PG market, so they are likely content having children and diehards as the consistent fanbase. Â They know they can do virtually whatever and maintain steady ratings and revenue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 Kane and Big show at the end was just the worst. They aren't over at all. Kane especially has exactly ZERO upside and Big Show not much more as a main eventer. They didn't even get booed for their entrances, they just sucked the life out of the crowd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillThompson Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 I'm not going to be one of the people who writes WWE off for good. I'm realistic, I'll be back. I do need a break though. I enjoy wrestling that makes me happy and that's why I won't be watching any current WWE for a while. I have countless matches from the past to explore, old WWF/WWE to watch, present day Lucha, Puro, and various indies to make me happy. That's all I want as a wrestling fan and right now WWE isn't doing that. I'll still watch NXT, but I view that as a separate thing at this point. I'll be back, but for right now this is one abusive relationship I need some space from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy hats Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 I don't like current emaciated Rock, no eyebrows, bald, skinny. He's the most jacked person in the world!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anarchistxx Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 WWE has been steadily losing business for years. Its time is coming. Â Utter rubbish. It is more profitable than ever. Â If you think the WWE is going anywhere in the next ten or twenty years you are completely deluded. Even when they run out of nostalgia superstars to wheel out every year the wheel we keep on turning, as a corporation they are a well oiled machine. Â TNA have survived for over a decade and they fucking lose money, not to mention being one of the worst professional wrestling shows ever aired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stomperspc Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 I don't get the sense of urgency in pushing Reigns. Barring something unforeseen, Cena will be around for a little while longer. Bryan can easily function as at least a short term solution as the top babyface. Ambrose is reasonably over and could have a minor run on top. Reigns is 29 years old, so it is not like it is now or never for him. Had they hit the brakes on his push and gave him more time to get over naturally he might have had a shot. In the meantime, they could more than make do with those other guys. This was a prime opportunity to bring Reigns along slowly while other non-long term solutions (in WWE's eyes) bridge the gap. Instead they've sort of killed everyone in the process. Â They will survive of course, but man do they make it hard on themselves . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillThompson Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 Â Â Â Totally pathetic. Vince's death is the only small chance this company has to live at this point. Â I always laugh at hyperbolic posts like this. WWE will be alive for decades if not centuries, it is a huge multinational corporation with an incredibly loyal fanbase who tune in every week despite the consistently awful booking. Â Every person in this thread has probably vowed never to watch again after some terrible show that wasted their time or unfair treatment of a worker ofr awful booking decision. Â Â How many new fans are they getting though? How many kids tuning in for John Cena keep up with the product after they turn, say, 12 without the memories the older fans have that keep them loyal. Â Â A lot of kids probably are tuning out at age twelve. That is nothing new, all my friends did in 2001/2002 when we turned that age and the attitude era died down. They will always get new fans, especially the children of the adults who are fans. The product is still aimed towards the PG market, so they are likely content having children and diehards as the consistent fanbase. Â They know they can do virtually whatever and maintain steady ratings and revenue. Â Â The problem with your stance is that this is what companies say when the tide is slowly turning against them. "Don't worry about customer complaints guys, we've been around for years and will be for many years to come. We'll just keep doing what we do and eventually things will even out." Now, I'm not saying WWE will go out of business today, tomorrow, or even ten years from now. However, they are presently showing to be a company that is tone deaf when it comes to delivering a product their fans want to see. There's already been a slow trickle of fans online posting pics of their cancellation screens from the Network. They aren't making a difference now, but over time as fans continue to turn away and they continue to not make new fans things could get bad for them. Â Heck, WWE may be around forever, but is it really that hard to look at the history of the business world and not think that a company who is experiencing relatively rough times and continues to shit on their fans could possibly be heading towards a future where they go belly up? I don't think it is, and to dismiss it is hubris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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