tim Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 this is the best thing i've ever seen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubbymark Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 I'm curious as to how much Russian the fans at Levis Stadium know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steenalized Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 Rusev won't go over, but he absolutely should. He is their hottest act. They desperately need heel acts on top and he actually gives them that. A loss here doesn't elevate the US title as much as a win over company ace Cena does. it gives us an actually interesting, strongly-built heel going into the post-Mania shows to care about, because otherwise we're getting Big Show and Kane as our top heel acts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubbymark Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 And as other people have pointed out, if WWE REALLY want to get Roman Reigns over, if he wins the WWE Title tonight, him going over Rusev where Cena and others would make him more of a made man than anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steenalized Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 I should add that he's their hottest and best act, all things considered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anarchistxx Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 Rusev won't go over, but he absolutely should. He is their hottest act. They desperately need heel acts on top and he actually gives them that. A loss here doesn't elevate the US title as much as a win over company ace Cena does. it gives us an actually interesting, strongly-built heel going into the post-Mania shows to care about, because otherwise we're getting Big Show and Kane as our top heel acts. In that respect a loss could prove counterproductive. They aren't having Roman Reigns go over Brock Lesnar and then drop the belt to Rusev in the next couple of months, so he loses his heat anyway jobbing to the champion if they go that direction. This was they can rebuild him for Summerslam. Really don't think he is their hottest act either, or anywhere close. Wishful thinking from smarks who dig his act. How much of his heat is purely down to the Anti-America bullshit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 Rusev won't go over, but he absolutely should. He is their hottest act. They desperately need heel acts on top and he actually gives them that. A loss here doesn't elevate the US title as much as a win over company ace Cena does. it gives us an actually interesting, strongly-built heel going into the post-Mania shows to care about, because otherwise we're getting Big Show and Kane as our top heel acts. I seriously don't get this. Cena has had big losses to Lesnar and Rusev in recent memory. High profile losses too. And they've made it USA vs. Russia. If Rusev wins I think it could actually kill business. Arn and Tully over Road Warriors. I don't even think Bruno or Hogan were untouchable enough to survive three big losses in the space of a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steenalized Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 Cena as pro-American hero in 2015 wrestling in San Francisco in front of an international crowd is not the same as Road Warriors as dominant bad asses wrestling in hometown Chicago in 1987. Cena isn't the same type of face to the crowd as Bruno and Hogan were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shining Wiz Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 The way it's been booked, Cena kind of has to win. That being said, booking it that way (or maybe at all) is the problem as they could very well run with Rusev being undefeated possibly all the way up to him challenging for the World title next year. They need to build a younger generation, and Rusev is a good guy to build around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 But you don't want to bury your ace no matter what the context. But also, if he's fighing for USA, and it's already 1-0 to Russia, you want to make it 2-0 to Russia? Sometimes you have to stick to booking basics. Rusev can take this loss and comeback because the audience (note: AUDIENCE, not just live crowd) need their hero to win. There is no ace in history that could withstand having his balls cut as badly as losing twice to an up and coming heel and being relegated to fueding for a secondary title. None in history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bierschwale Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 Cena with the Aja elbow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shining Wiz Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 Reigns can't be the new ace if Cena still is. Not saying that's my point of view, but this company has applied worse logic before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 FIVE STARS loved it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shining Wiz Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 I liked their last match more. Bad ending, and I assume they are going to turn Lana face now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 could have used an AA kickout from rusev and i think the ending was too abrupt. but minor complains, that match fucking ruled, everything about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steenalized Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 Cena isn't Hogan and he definitely isn't Bruno. Wrestling booking has changed in the last few decades. Yes, there are common basics, but sometimes a heel needs to go over definitively in the feud. Cena is the ace, sure, but it's not the same way as it once was. Cena could have survived a loss here (he just won as I type this, and it's fine, but I don't think preferable). For one, the WWE seems interested in actively pushing someone new as the ace, apparently Reigns. For two, he's always been willing to put people over and the WWE knows they can put people over him because he is as made as made can be in this day and age. Listen to the dead silence of the crowd, by the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anarchistxx Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 Finish was poor again. Should have been far more emphatic given what was at stake, even if the right man won. The match itself was just sort of there, thought they would pull out more stops. Not even a step above what they did last month. The Sting/HHH match ended really suddenly and underwhelmingly also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted March 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 John Cena vs. Rusev - Lana…. Cannons… A TANK???? He would have done Stalin proud - Fighting the Cold War a second time…. I already loved through it once!!!! - Great touch with Rusev requesting to be announced first - Great spot… Missed stomp into a back kick to Cena’s face - Both guys pulling out new spots. - Another awesome match and if you didn’t like this match, you and I have nothing to talk about when it comes to wrestling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted March 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 Come on people... we complain about self conscious epics in wrestling and when they choose not to do finisher kickout finisher kickout finisher kickout reversal finisher, we complain about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 i was as down on the build to this show as anyone but aside from all the fluff with the commercials and music, this has been a damn good show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubbymark Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 The finishing sequence for their Fastlane match was better, and they still could have had more time to build to an even more epic finish, even if I think Cena winning was the wrong move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exposer Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 Cena-Rusev - Really good match. Fast Lane was better. Rusev was GREAT in this. It might have been his career performance. The finish was lame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcmmnx Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 Not crazy about the finish, but that was a fantastic match. Rusev looked like the best guy in the company here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anarchistxx Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 Come on people... we complain about self conscious epics in wrestling and when they choose not to do finisher kickout finisher kickout finisher kickout reversal finiehr, we complain about it? It didn't have to be a self conscious epic. It just felt off - started abrubptly, ended abruptly. Thought it could have been paced differently, the build could have been better, the finish should have been more definitive. The ending should have felt a lot bigger and cathartic. None of that means t should have resorted to endless finishing trading and overkill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 Come on people... we complain about self conscious epics in wrestling and when they choose not to do finisher kickout finisher kickout finisher kickout reversal finisher, we complain about it? Totally with you Will. Nice to see a good old-school finish to a good old-school feud and match. Refreshing that we've only actually had 3 false finishes so far on this entire card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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