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Outside of Kawada number one I am not sure. I like Taue the second most, but he is not the second best guy. Really like Kobashi in the 90's, his 2000's work is not my favourite.

 

Probably Kawada, Misawa, Taue, Kobashi... but that can change very very easily.

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I just want to clarify that GREAT means a 10/10, a no doubt Top ___ something. Brock Lesnar is great (hell if you believe Meltzer's line about MMA = Pro Wrestling than we don't even need a conversation, he's the greatest).

 

Even if we pretend that shoot MMA matches are in line with worked Pro Wrestling matches, I'm not sure how the MMA stuff helps Brock. He had 8 fights. Exactly Zero of them were Fight of the Nights, let along winning a significant Fight of the Year award. Almost all of them were one sided ass kickings, including his loss to Mir (a rare one sided match when the ass kicker ends up getting caught).

 

They are important matches on a level because Brock was over huge. They all had a buzz... because Brock was over huge. But they weren't great fights.

 

An example?

 

Take this fight, with its ranking from the more-than-a-bit-goofy ranking on the UFC Top 100 fights dvd back in 2009:

 

78. UFC 76: Keith Jardine vs. Chuck Liddell

 

It's hardly the best fight in UFC history, and who knows if today it would be one of the Top 100 in a realistic ranking. But it's better than more than half the matches on that goofy set, and probably better than more than 2/3rds. That was a terrific, dramatic fight with a huge upset that screwed up the "booking" of the promotion.

 

Point: Brock never had an MMA fight remotely as good as a fight that might not be one of the Top 100.

 

Again, big buzz around his matches. But there never were very good due to being one sides.

 

If we count Brock's MMA as Wrestling, it doesn't help him as a worker. It just adds to his HOF candidacy as a Big Star.

 

Of course a lot of us could give a shit about MMA when it comes to a Pro Wrestling Hall of Fame. ;) It means even less to "work".

A good fight is one where you win or atleast don't get smashed on from my experience. Having a pro wrestling back and forth real fight is rare in real life. I'm only speaking on bar fights and highschool stuff because I am pretty much that casual UFC fan that is only interested in the big attractions, freakshows and the like. I'm kinda like that guy that gets into wrestling after years and years during Wrestlemania season if something really cool is happening. The flip side would be a huge boxing fan, Mayweather as his favorite fighter. This fan watched WWF in the early to mid 1990's when he was a kid and two favorites were Undertaker & Shawn Michaels. So he watches the Mayweather scrap on Big Show online, sees The Undertaker is in the main event Title Match and that he's a great wrestler now with "fighting skills", Shawn-Flair career match and is into the promos and that there's a ladder match with 8 guys and sees clips of how crazy they are now, when you thought HBK/Razor was the best match.(remember a time when you didn't watch for years, and how crazy stuff was when you came back???) So a casual fan gets into Mania mode and they sell him. I don't know how this quite relates, oh well.

 

I'm the guy Vince books Mania for, except with UFC.

 

The only time I have ever been Into it was the Lesnar run, when Chuck Lidell was in beast mode as champion(I live in San Luis Obispo, everybody was talking about the Iceman, and I was always like "Dean Malenko?"), and whenever Kimbo fights. I also watched a lot of the early UFCs on VHS(I still have UFC 1 and 6 on tape) because of Shamrock, Dan Severan and Tank Abbott getting me interested in seeing it. Those shows were like ECW 1995 vs. UFC now which is like a Miz match to me. Oh but you can bet your ass I'll be at the club/bar to see CM Punk hopefully kick some ass and the eventually earn a "Lesnar deal" when he returns to WWE.

 

He became World Heavyweight champion and beat/dominated some big fighters, drew huge buy rates and was the #1 star. I think those are the only things that should factor in his favor if MMA factors in at all. Which it shouldn't.

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I just want to clarify that GREAT means a 10/10, a no doubt Top ___ something. Brock Lesnar is great (hell if you believe Meltzer's line about MMA = Pro Wrestling than we don't even need a conversation, he's the greatest).

Even if we pretend that shoot MMA matches are in line with worked Pro Wrestling matches, I'm not sure how the MMA stuff helps Brock. He had 8 fights. Exactly Zero of them were Fight of the Nights, let along winning a significant Fight of the Year award. Almost all of them were one sided ass kickings, including his loss to Mir (a rare one sided match when the ass kicker ends up getting caught).

 

They are important matches on a level because Brock was over huge. They all had a buzz... because Brock was over huge. But they weren't great fights.

 

An example?

 

Take this fight, with its ranking from the more-than-a-bit-goofy ranking on the UFC Top 100 fights dvd back in 2009:

 

78. UFC 76: Keith Jardine vs. Chuck Liddell

 

It's hardly the best fight in UFC history, and who knows if today it would be one of the Top 100 in a realistic ranking. But it's better than more than half the matches on that goofy set, and probably better than more than 2/3rds. That was a terrific, dramatic fight with a huge upset that screwed up the "booking" of the promotion.

 

Point: Brock never had an MMA fight remotely as good as a fight that might not be one of the Top 100.

 

Again, big buzz around his matches. But there never were very good due to being one sides.

 

If we count Brock's MMA as Wrestling, it doesn't help him as a worker. It just adds to his HOF candidacy as a Big Star.

 

Of course a lot of us could give a shit about MMA when it comes to a Pro Wrestling Hall of Fame. ;) It means even less to "work".

 

A good fight is one where you win or atleast don't get smashed on from my experience. Having a pro wrestling back and forth real fight is rare in real life. I'm only speaking on bar fights and highschool stuff because I am pretty much that casual UFC fan that is only interested in the big attractions, freakshows and the like. I'm kinda like that guy that gets into wrestling after years and years during Wrestlemania season if something really cool is happening. The flip side would be a huge boxing fan, Mayweather as his favorite fighter. This fan watched WWF in the early to mid 1990's when he was a kid and two favorites were Undertaker & Shawn Michaels. So he watches the Mayweather scrap on Big Show online, sees The Undertaker is in the main event Title Match and that he's a great wrestler now with "fighting skills", Shawn-Flair career match and is into the promos and that there's a ladder match with 8 guys and sees clips of how crazy they are now, when you thought HBK/Razor was the best match.(remember a time when you didn't watch for years, and how crazy stuff was when you came back???) So a casual fan gets into Mania mode and they sell him. I don't know how this quite relates, oh well.

 

I'm the guy Vince books Mania for, except with UFC.

 

The only time I have ever been Into it was the Lesnar run, when Chuck Lidell was in beast mode as champion(I live in San Luis Obispo, everybody was talking about the Iceman, and I was always like "Dean Malenko?"), and whenever Kimbo fights. I also watched a lot of the early UFCs on VHS(I still have UFC 1 and 6 on tape) because of Shamrock, Dan Severan and Tank Abbott getting me interested in seeing it. Those shows were like ECW 1995 vs. UFC now which is like a Miz match to me. Oh but you can bet your ass I'll be at the club/bar to see CM Punk hopefully kick some ass and the eventually earn a "Lesnar deal" when he returns to WWE.

 

He became World Heavyweight champion and beat/dominated some big fighters, drew huge buy rates and was the #1 star. I think those are the only things that should factor in his favor if MMA factors in at all. Which it shouldn't.

 

 

I'm not sure what to make of this. Taking it in chunks:

 

On Chuck...

 

Chuck was in beast mode as LHW Champ from April 16, 2005 - December 30, 2006. Took it from Randy, then defended it four time. Then on May 26, 2007 he got his ass kicked by Rampage. Chuck then went 1-4 through his last four UFC matches, never challenged for the title, and had to be forced into retirement by the kindness (!) of Dana's black heart.

 

Brock debuted in the UFC on February 2, 2008, a year after Chuck's rampage (not Rampage).

 

So I guess that you got into it during Chuck's time, like a lot of people did. Then Brock came along.

 

As far as Brock dominating...

 

He debuted in the UFC on February 2, 2008, as mentioned. He jobbed in his first match. Then he had a stunningly boring decision win over Heath Herring. Somehow going 1-1 with an embarrassing loss and an embarrassing win "earned" Brock a shot at the UFC Title. Really it was more Dana's Eff U (as in fuck you not FU) at Couture after the contract dispute they had over the past year. Put the 45 year old Randy in with a fellow Wrestler who was much bigger and... well... we pretty much all knew this would be ugly.

 

Then he beat Mir. We all knew how the would go after watching the first match between the two. It was unlikely that Brock would fall for a submission again, having not trained to defend against them for several years.

 

Then the illness... the Shane Carwin win. Wrestler vs Wrestler, with Shane having some knockout power but being a much lesser wrestler. The only thing that made it in doubt was Brock's health.

 

Then more health issues, and the easy losses to Cain and Overeem.

 

He was 4-3 in the UFC. Let's not confuse him with GSP or Silva.

 

He was a Big Star. His W-L record is unimpressive.

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Kawada, Misawa, Kobashi, Taue.

 

I don't think anyone in wrestling has ever come across as a bigger badass than Kawada. You could put him across the ring from Brock Lesnar and I'd say poor Brock.

Holy shit that is the craziest and most awesome dream match anyone has ever uttered!

 

prime Kawada vs today Brock!!!!!!!

 

Wait.. that still wouldn't be as good as Hansen-Kawada though.

 

 

Or Hansen-Brock!

 

For me it's Kawada > Misawa > Kobashi > Taue.

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Posted here four months ago (and for the longest time) I always had Kawada-Misawa-Kobashi-Taue. I think that has changed. Kobashi has leaped to #1. Misawa stays at #2. Kawada has dropped to #3.

 

Kobashi-Misawa-Kawada-Taue.

 

I'm finished watching All-Japan unless it's from the 70's or something new from the 80's. I'm sick of the fuckin 90's.

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1) Kobashi

2) Kawada

3) Misawa

4) Taue

 

Kobashi is a level ahead of the four corners, especially factoring in his NOAH run. He's in a battle with Hansen for my #1 spot on my GWE ballot and if he doesn't finish #1, he'll be finishing at a very respectable #2. No one connects with me the way Kobashi does. HIs facial expressions are so intense, his selling is so dramatic, and his offense is so crisp. Kobashi, at his best, is a fighter. He's not shooting, but he's scraping and clawing for everything. He portrays that he wants to win SO MUCH and I love that.

 

I've recenlty fallen in love with zebra pants Kawada. 1980's All Japan is something I hadn't explored until recenlty and young Kawada has really impressed me. Then, obviously, he transforms into this asshole who kicks people in the mouth real hard and it is glorious. Kawada's performance in the 12/3/93 match is probably my favorite performance by a wrestler in any match, ever. If we're just talking about All Japan and not factoring in what these four men did after the split, I'd rank Kawada ahead of Kobashi.

 

I've actually been really sour on Misawa lately. I ran across his 9/6/97 match with Akiyama about a month ago and that really turned me off on Misawa. I've been watching a ton of All Japan lately and Misawa, for the most part, hasn't come across to me as he once did. I still love him and he'll still probably finish in my Top 10, but right now, for whatever reason, I'm cold on Misawa.

 

I love Taue. He's so great at being Taue and his baby giraffe-like movements really add to his charm. I'm really going to struggle ranking Taue on my GWE list because I love him and I think he's great at what he did, but I always struggle with the idea of that making him great. He added so much to the 12/3/93, 6/9/95, and 12/6/96 matches and without him those matches wouldn't be as great as they are, but Taue never comes across as the best worker in those matches. It's Kawada and Kobashi stealing the show in 12/3, then Kawada and Misawa in 6/9, and then Akiyama and Kawada in 12/6. Taue is almost a default #4. He's just not at the level that the other three are, but by no means is that a slight to him.

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I've actually been really sour on Misawa lately. I ran across his 9/6/97 match with Akiyama about a month ago and that really turned me off on Misawa. I've been watching a ton of All Japan lately and Misawa, for the most part, hasn't come across to me as he once did. I still love him and he'll still probably finish in my Top 10, but right now, for whatever reason, I'm cold on Misawa.

 

 

 

Interested Case as to why the aversion to 9/6/97? He didn't give Akiyama enough or what?

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I've actually been really sour on Misawa lately. I ran across his 9/6/97 match with Akiyama about a month ago and that really turned me off on Misawa. I've been watching a ton of All Japan lately and Misawa, for the most part, hasn't come across to me as he once did. I still love him and he'll still probably finish in my Top 10, but right now, for whatever reason, I'm cold on Misawa.

 

 

 

Interested Case as to why the aversion to 9/6/97? He didn't give Akiyama enough or what?

 

It came across as a borderline Misawa squash. I don't remember Akiyama doing anything of importance in the match and Misawa looked so disinterested in the match. It wasn't a case of Akiyama not being in his league to me, but Misawa just not caring. I wrote in my notes that it's the worst Budokan Hall main event I've seen. Granted, I've seen less much less than you or jdw, for example, but I really didn't enjoy that match.

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I would have to be like many and say Kawada-Misawa-Taue-Kobashi, though it always seems subject to change.

 

Kawada has simply been a breath of fresh air to me since I have been diving into the AJPW stuff over the last little while. Misawa continues to impress me with his constant awesomeness when taken from 90-97. Taue has this just absolute "oddity" aspect about him that draws me to him whenever I watch. Kobashi gave my favorite performance in the 6/9/95 tag match, but has otherwise failed to impress me with a lot of his singles matches. I see Taue and Kobashi as much more of a tag specialist than singles guys overall, where as I could watch Kawada and Misawa in singles matches much easier.

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Misawa, Kawada & Kobashi are all in my top ten. With Kawada usually #3 & Misawa & Kobashi flip-flopping back-and-forth depending on how I feel that day.

 

Right now, Taue isn't in my Top 50. He'll be in my Top 100 somewhere in the back half but I have him way, way behind the other three. He's certainly been in some great matches but I just don't think he's on their level. I think he's also in the greatest tag team match of all time... with those other three guys & him being the weakest link in the match.

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I still get the sense that Taue does better by 2015 metrics than by 2002 metrics (more broadly portraying a character towards the overarching story of a match vs pure workrate), but I just don't have the matches under my belt to really run with that. It's a heavy generalization and it's not like the other three don't also gain in certain ways due to that shift (which as has been discussed, may mainly exist in my head). I do think it plays into some of what Dylan's recently said though.

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I still get the sense that Taue does better by 2015 metrics than by 2002 metrics (more broadly portraying a character towards the overarching story of a match vs pure workrate), but I just don't have the matches under my belt to really run with that. It's a heavy generalization and it's not like the other three don't also gain in certain ways due to that shift (which as has been discussed, may mainly exist in my head). I do think it plays into some of what Dylan's recently said though.

There a couple of thing to address in this:

1)People who are super high on Taue and regard high as an all time great are usually really big fans of japanese wrestling (shocking! I know). Most people that watch japanese wrestling don't view it like you do (I mean, most wrestling fans in general don't, but it's especially true for a style that's built so much on physicality, which isn't something that's as important in match quality as it is in grabbing someone's eye and getting them to check something new out).

2)As I've mentioned before you don't have a full grasp on Taue. I think right now his role in the All Japan tag matches is what you're so impressed with but I seriously doubt you've seen him in enough roles to understand why thinking Taue is a lesser worker than Misawa, Kawada or Kobashi is a majority opinion.

3)There's a pretty big chance Taue is going to do worse on this poll

3)Taue has been defended as an all time great for years. Daniel made a great video about it a few years ago which I'd recommend:

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I still get the sense that Taue does better by 2015 metrics than by 2002 metrics (more broadly portraying a character towards the overarching story of a match vs pure workrate), but I just don't have the matches under my belt to really run with that. It's a heavy generalization and it's not like the other three don't also gain in certain ways due to that shift (which as has been discussed, may mainly exist in my head). I do think it plays into some of what Dylan's recently said though.

There a couple of thing to address in this:

1)People who are super high on Taue and regard high as an all time great are usually really big fans of japanese wrestling (shocking! I know). Most people that watch japanese wrestling don't view it like you do (I mean, most wrestling fans in general don't, but it's especially true for a style that's built so much on physicality, which isn't something that's as important in match quality as it is in grabbing someone's eye and getting them to check something new out).

2)As I've mentioned before you don't have a full grasp on Taue. I think right now his role in the All Japan tag matches is what you're so impressed with but I seriously doubt you've seen him in enough roles to understand why thinking Taue is a lesser worker than Misawa, Kawada or Kobashi is a majority opinion.

3)There's a pretty big chance Taue is going to do worse on this poll

3)Taue has been defended as an all time great for years. Daniel made a great video about it a few years ago which I'd recommend:

 

Who's Daniel?

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That's all more than fair (though I'm less sure about the idea that we should simply accept the physicality as a necessity in japanese wrestling quality in a comparative look, but that's a broader issue being discussed across the board, especially with lucha right now; I'll gladly grant you the other points and that's why I qualified my statement so heavily). It just seems like every pro-Taue post that does pop up, even now, months after this thread was peaking, seems to follow along the same lines I mentioned.

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Ditch has tons of matches on his site where he praises Taue in his mini reviews, most of which came far before that Daniel video, and he even argued him as a top 10 all-time Japan guy on the old DVDVR board. I've also seen old forum posts from as far back as 2004 where people pimp Taue/Nagata as one of NOAH's best matches, so digging Taue is far from some new thing.

 

That video makes me miss puroresu.tv, by the way.

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So I've been watching a ton of All Japan and I am now 100% of the belief that Misawa is #1.

 

Also is it weird to think Misawa-Akiyama is by far the best series? And 02.27.00 is the best native vs. native AJPW match?

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This might be an unusual order but

 

1) Kobashi

2) Misawa

3) Taue

4) Kawada

 

For me what hurts Kawada is that his 2000s run is lacking and the other three easily surpass him in that area. Taue's 2003-2006 run is really terrific and is what made me put him over Kawada.

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Kawada's 2000s letdown is overstated. He was a top candidate for best wrestler in the world in 2000 and damn good into 2005, despite working in a much less healthy promotion than the others. I'd put him below Kobashi for the 2000s and I'm not saying he was clearly better than the other two. But I don't think he was clearly worse either.

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I mean I didn't think Kawada was bad or anything like that, just slightly disappointing post-2000. I would rank Kobashi and Misawa above him anyways even when excluding everyone's 2000's stuff but Taue's 2003-2006 bolstered his case enough for him to be #3, IMO.

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Will's set has 106 Kawada matches from 2000-2010, 100 of them after the split. The 100/106 aren't any attempt to get "everything" since the set was huge anyway. But it certainly is a representative sample, and an attempt to put out the good/important stuff.

 

Sure, there are 13 matches in Hustle, but 7 of those 13 have The Divine Tenryu in them... so... yeah... if Hustle isn't some blight on Tenryu's 39 year career, it's hard to see it a blight on Kawada's 28 year career.

 

Maybe someone wants to walk through it and get across how shitty Kawada was in the 00's. In turn, take 106 matches each from Misawa, Kobashi and Taue in the same period and let us know how great they were. Of course there's going to be more overlap on the NOAH guy's matches as they faced each other or teamed with one another, where as the list from Kawada has just 2 matches with Misawa (both singles), one with Kobashi (singles) and three with Taue as his partner... 5 of those 6 before the split.

 

Anyway, here it is for ease of reference if one wants to have fun.

 

Toshiaki Kawada vs. Kenta Kobashi (1/17/00)
Toshiaki Kawada & Akira Taue vs. Yoshihiro Takayama & Takao Omori (1/23/00)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Vader (2/17/00)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Mitsuharu Misawa (3/31/00)
Toshiaki Kawada & Akira Taue vs. Johnny Ace & Mike Barton (JIP) (6/9/00)
Toshiaki Kawada & Akira Taue vs. Yoshihiro Takayama & Takao Omori (6/9/00)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Masa Fuchi (7/1/00)
Toshiaki Kawada & Genichiro Tenryu vs. Stan Hansen & Maunakea Mossman (7/23/00)
Toshiaki Kawada & Dr. Death vs. Stan Hansen & Genichiro Tenryu (9/2/00)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Kensuke Sasaki (10/9/00)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Genichiro Tenryu (10/28/00)
Toshiaki Kawada & Masa Fuchi vs. Genichiro Tenryu & Nobutaka Araya (12/6/00)
Toshiaki Kawada & Masa Fuchi vs. Dr. Death & Mike Rotunda (12/9/00)
Toshiaki Kawada & Masa Fuchi vs. Yuji Nagata & Takashi Iizuka (12/14/00)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Hiroyoshi Tenzan (NJ 1/4/01)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Kensuke Sasaki (NJ 1/4/01)
Toshiaki Kawada & Masa Fuchi vs. Taiyo Kea & Johnny Smith (1/14/01)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Keiji Mutoh (4/14/01)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Mitsuya Nagai (4/29/01)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Satoshi Kojima (NJ 6/6/01)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Hiroyoshi Tenzan (6/8/01)
Toshiaki Kawada & Nobutaka Araya vs. Genichiro Tenryu & Masa Fuchi (6/30/01)
Toshiaki Kawada & Mitsuya Nagai vs. Genichiro Tenryu & Ricky Fuyuki (12/5/01)
Toshiaki Kawada & Mitsuya Nagai vs. Keiji Mutoh & Taiyo Kea (12/7/01)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Keiji Mutoh (2/24/02)
Toshiaki Kawada & Masa Fuchi vs. Satoshi Kojima & Keiji Mutoh (4/12/03)
Toshiaki Kawada & Masa Fuchi vs. Satoshi Kojima & Kendo Kashin (5/25/03)
Toshiaki Kawada & Satoshi Kojima vs. Keiji Mutoh & Arashi (6/5/03)
Toshiaki Kawada & Masa Fuchi vs. Satoshi Kojima & Jimmy Yang (6/8/03)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Arashi (6/11/03)
Toshiaki Kawada, Nobutaka Araya & Shigeo Okamura vs. Masato Tanaka, Shinjiro Ohtani & Hideki Hosaka (6/13/03)
Toshiaki Kawada & Keiji Mutoh vs. Shinya Hashimoto & Naoya Ogawa (Z1 7/6/03)
Toshiaki Kawada & Ryuji Hijkata vs. Satoshi Kojima & Jimmy Yang (7/12/03)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Keiji Mutoh (7/13/03)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. The Gladiator (9/6/03)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Shinjiro Ohtani (9/6/03)
Toshiaki Kawada & Ryuji Hijikata vs. Mike Awesome & TAKA Michinoku (10/5/03)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Don Frye (10/26/03)
Toshiaki Kawada, Nobutaka Araya & Ryuji Hijikata vs. Keiji Mutoh, Tomoaki Honma & Arashi (12/2/03)
Toshiaki Kawada & Kendo Kashin vs. Shinya Hashimoto & Wataru Sakata (12/5/03)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Naoya Ogawa (Z1 12/14/03)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Genichiro Tenryu (1/18/04)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Shinya Hashimoto (2/22/04)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Cactus Jack (Hustle 5/8/04)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Mitsuya Nagai (7/22/04)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Keizo Matsuda (IWA 8/31/04)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Osamu Nishimura (9/3/04)
Toshiaki Kawada & Mitsuya Nagai vs. Shinsuke Nakamura & Hiroyoshi Tenzan (NJ 10/24/04)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Taiyo Kea (10/31/04)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Hiroyoshi Tenzan (12/5/04)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Kensuke Sasaki (1/16/05)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Satoshi Kojima (2/16/05)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Naoya Ogawa (Hustle 3/18/05)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Kensuke Sasaki (4/20/05)
Toshiaki Kawada & Taichi Ishikari vs. Hi69 & Yuuji Hino (Kaientai Dojo 5/28/05)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Tomoaki Honma (6/3/05)
Toshiaki Kawada & Kensuke Sasaki vs. Keiji Muto & Kohei Suwama (6/19/05)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Mitsuharu Misawa (NOAH 7/18/05)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Tatsumi Fujinami (NJ 8/5/05)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Yuji Nagata (NJ 8/6/05)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Minoru Suzuki (NJ 8/11/05)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Osamu Nishimura (NJ 8/13/05)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Mikhail Ilioukhine (U-Style 11/23/05)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Touru Owashi (dragondoor 2/7/06)
Toshiaki Kawada & Kohei Sato vs. Wataru Sakata & Ryoji Sai (Hustle 5/13/06)
Toshiaki Kawada & Kohei Sato vs. Genichiro Tenryu & Ryoji Sai (Hustle 6/15/06)
Toshiaki Kawada & The Monster C vs. Tajiri & Kintaro Kanemura (Hustle 7/11/06)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. D-Lo Brown (7/30/06)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Taiyo Kea (8/27/06)
Toshiaki Kawada, Genichiro Tenryu, Kohei Sato, Giant Vabo & The Monster C vs. Naoya Ogawa, Tajiri, Shinjiro Ohtani, Razor Ramon HG & New Yin-sama (Elimination Match) (Hustle 10/9/06)
Toshiaki Kawada & Keiji Muto vs. Satoshi Kojima & Hiroyoshi Tenzan (AJ 12/2/06)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Shinsuke Nakamura (NJ 1/4/07)
Toshiaki Kawada, Keiji Mutoh & TAKA Michinoku vs. Brother YASSHI, Rosey & Kohei Suwama (2/12/07)
Toshiaki Kawada & Genichiro Tenryu vs. Shinjiro Ohtani & RG (Hustle 3/18/07)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. TAJIRI (3/28/07)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Satoshi Kojima (4/7/07)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Keiji Muto (4/7/07)
Toshiaki Kawada, Genichiro Tenryu & Tajiri vs. Shinjiro Ohtani, Kushida & RG (Hustle 4/19/07)
Toshiaki Kawada & Genichiro Tenryu vs. HG & RG (Hustle 4/21/07)
Toshiaki Kawada, Genichiro Tenryu & ACHICHI vs. HG, Wataru Sakata & Ryuji Sai (Hustle 6/10/07)
Toshiaki Kawada & ACHICHI vs. Yoshihiro Takayama & Minoru Suzuki (Hustle 6/17/07)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Yutaka Yoshie (Muga 6/21/07)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Yutaka Yoshie (Muga 9/23/07)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Kensuke Sasaki (10/18/07)
Toshiaki Kawada & Kensuke Sasaki vs. Osamu Nishimura & Masa Fuchi (11/23/07)
Toshiaki Kawada & Kensuke Sasaki vs. Satoshi Kojima & Kohei Suwama (12/9/07)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Ryouji Sai (Hustle 1/17/08)
Toshiaki Kawada, Kohei Sato & Monster C vs. HG, TAJIRI & Ryouji Sai (Hustle 2/21/08)
Toshiaki Kawada & Taiyo Kea vs. Keiji Mutoh & Tanahashi (All Japan 3/1/08)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Taiyo Kea (4/7/08)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Hiroshi Tanahashi (4/8/08)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Tigers Mask (8/31/08)
Toshiaki Kawada & Kintaro Kanemura vs. Riki Choshu & Shiro Koshinaka (11/3/08)
Toshiaki Kawada, Genichiro Tenryu & Tajiri vs. Shiro Koshinaka, Yuji Nagata & Jushin Liger (HUSTLE 8/27/09)
Toshiaki Kawada & Akira Taue vs. Jun Akiyama & KENTA (NOAH 10/3/09)
Toshiaki Kawada & Kohei Sato vs. Shinjiro Ohtani & Masato Tanaka (Z1 10/18/09)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Masato Tanaka (Z1 10/24/09)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Daisuke Sekimoto (Z1 1/1/10)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Takeshi Morishima (NOAH 2/28/10)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Ryuji Sai (Z1 3/2/10)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Mohammed Yone (NOAH 4/10/10)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Kohei Sato (Z1 4/11/10)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Naomichi Marufuji (NOAH 4/13/10)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Yoshihiro Takayama (NOAH 4/24/10)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Takeshi Morishima (NOAH 4/25/10)
Toshiaki Kawada vs. Akitoshi Saito (NOAH 5/2/10)

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