JerryvonKramer Posted February 27, 2016 Report Share Posted February 27, 2016 I've bolded those I see who are in real danger of not making the collective 100 this time around. I'm wondering how many of those Joshi workers are going to be casualties. I just don't see many discussing them at all:1. Jumbo Tsuruta – 4,594 points - 48 votes – 14 #1 votes - 35 top 5 votes - 40 top 10 votes - VHB This Is Workrate, Smoove Luv B, gordi, Mike Oles, ElPatoume, Ditch, Wolverine, Goodhelmet, wagnerpanther, Owen, Real Man’s man, Theseus, throughsilver, Famous Mortimer # 12. Toshiaki Kawada – 4,477 points - 48 votes – 7 #1 votes - 27 top 5 votes -36 top 10 votes - VHB Bozzaholic, Dangerous Dan, roro ur boat, JHM, Rainmaker, Monday Night Jericho, Ray #13. Chris Benoit – 4,442 points - 49 votes - 13 top 5 votes - 30 top 10 votes - VHB Andrew D Lacelle, Wild Pegasus #24. Jushin Thunder Liger – 4,388 points - 48 votes – 2 #1 votes - 15 top 5 votes - 34 top 10 votes - VHB Dan T, AoA #15. Kenta Kobashi – 4,311 points - 47 votes – 1 #1 vote - 15 top 5 votes - 40 top 10 votes - VHB greenman #16. Mitsuharu Misawa – 4,255 points - 47 votes – 12 top 5 votes - 28 top 10 votes - VHB Floyd, gordi, throughsilver #27. Eddie Guerrero – 4,190 points - 49 votes – 3 #1 votes – 8 top 5 votes - 21 top 10 votes - VHB Stunning Grover, Eivion Thanotos, WOODOO #18. Ric Flair – 4,141 points – 48 votes – 8 #1 votes – 13 top 5 votes – 23 top 10 votes - VHB Floyd, Shozo the strong, anarchistxx, Rocket Moose, Dylan Waco, Big Rob, Shoe, Loss #19. Bret Hart – 3,707 points - 46 votes – 3 #1 votes – 9 top 5 votes – 13 top 10 votes - VHB Andrew D Lacelle, Slick Rick, Insane Clown #110. Stan Hansen – 3,669 points - 45 votes – 2 top 5 votes – 10 top 10 votes - VHB Andrew D Lacelle #311. Terry Funk – 3,573 points - 43 votes – 8 top 5 votes - 15 top 10 votes - VHB Rocket Moose, Dylan Waco, Big Rob #212. Harley Race – 3,501 points - 42 votes – 1 #1 vote - 8 top 5 votes - 15 top 10 votes - VHB Rob Naylor #113. Ricky Steamboat – 3,301 points - 45 votes – 1 top 5 vote - 4 top 10 votes - VHB Big Rob #314. Dynamite Kid – 3,250 points - 45 votes – 2 #1 votes – 2 top 5 votes - 8 top 10 votes - VHB Wild Pegasus, Warriorfan #115. Akira Hokuto – 3,244 points - 36 votes – 1 #1 vote - 11 top 5 votes - 21 top 10 votes - VHB Mr Dragon #116. Steve Austin – 3,178 points - 44 votes – 2 top 5 votes - 8 top 10 votes - VHB anarchistxx, SE Williams #317. Vader – 3,157 points - 43 votes – 4 top 10 votes - VHB Big Rob #618. Aja Kong – 3,135 points - 38 votes – 4 top 5 votes - 11 top 10 votes - VHB FLIK #219. Nobuhiko Takada – 3,062 points - 36 votes - 2 #1 votes - 8 top 5 votes - 17 top 10 votes - VHB Rob Edwards, Frank O’Keefe #120. El Hijo Del Santo – 2,922 points - 35 votes – 5 top 5 votes - 11 top 10 votes - VHB Smoove Luv B, Bix, Loss #321. Genichiro Tenryu – 2,870 points - 40 votes – 1 top 5 vote - 3 top 10 votes VHB Eivion Thanotos #522. Rey Mysterio Jr – 2,791 points - 39 votes – 1 top 5 vote – 1 top 10 vote - VHB Eivion Thanotos #423. Jaguar Yokoda – 2,613 points - 32 votes – 1 #1 vote - 5 top 5 votes – 9 top 10 votes - VHB Ohtani’s Jacket #124. Shinya Hashimoto – 2,509 points - 38 votes – 2 top 10 votes - VHB WOODOO #625. The Destroyer – 2,463 points - 33 votes – 3 top 5 votes –4 top 10 votes - VHB Ohtani’s Jacket #326. Akira Taue – 2,439 points - 39 votes - VHB Eivion Thanotos #1127. Shinjiro Ohtani – 2,409 points - 39 votes - VHB This Is Workrate #1228. Barry Windham – 2,386 points - 37 votes - VHB Andrew D Lacelle #1129. Manami Toyota – 2,299 points - 33 votes – 1 top 5 vote - 5 top 10 votes - VHB greenman #330. Giant Baba – 2,180 points - 27 votes - VHB Slick Rick #1931. Mayumi Ozaki – 2,140 points - 29 votes – 1 top 5 vote - 5 top 10 votes - VHB Wild Pegasus #532. Blue Panther – 2,099 points - 28 votes – 1 top 5 vote – 5 top 10 votes VHB Stunning Grover #433. Hiro Hase – 2,069 points - 33 votes - VHB This Is Workrate, anarchistxx #2034. Arn Anderson – 2,058 points - 35 votes - VHB Big Rob #1135. Devil Masami – 2,014 points - 27 votes – 1 top 5 vote - 5 top 10 votes - VHB Famous Mortimer #336. Billy Robinson – 1,974 points - 27 votes - VHB Rocket Moose #1137. Owen Hart – 1,963 points - 36 votes - VHB Ray #1638. Negro Casas – 1,960 points - 25 votes – 3 top 5 votes – 5 top 10 votes - VHB Stunning Grover, wagnerpanther #239. Chigusa Nagayo – 1,958 points - 28 votes – 2 top 5 votes – 2 top 10 votes - VHB FLIK #340. Ted Dibiase – 1,942 points – 32 votes – 1 #1 vote – 1 top 5 vote - 2 top 10 votes - VHB – SE Williams #141. Jerry Lawler – 1,927 points - 29 votes – 1 #1 vote – 2 top 5 votes – 4 top 10 votes VHB Bix #142. Volk Han – 1,920 points - 27 votes – 1 top 5 vote - 6 top 10 votes - VHB Benoitsmark #243. Bull Nakano – 1,832 points - 28 votes – 1 top 5 vote – 1 top 10 vote VHB Mr Dragon #444. Randy Savage – 1,794 points - 30 votes – 1 top 10 vote - VHB Andrew D Lacelle #1045. Curt Hennig – 1,786 points - 34 votes – VHB Mr Dragon #1746. Shawn Michaels – 1,784 points - 30 votes – 1 top 10 vote VHB Insane Clown #1047. Terry Gordy – 1,717 points - 28 votes – 1 top 5 vote – 1 top 10 vote - VHB Rob Naylor #348. Jack Brisco – 1,585 points - 25 votes – 1 top 5 vote - 2 top 10 votes - VHB Shoe #449. Bobby Eaton – 1,581 points - 30 votes - VHB Goodhelmet #2450. Jun Akiyama – 1,557 points - 27 votes - VHB Ditch #1651. Dick Murdoch – 1,521 points – 24 votes – 1 top 5 vote – 1 top 10 vote - VHB Real man’s man #552. Steve Williams – 1,510 points - 32 votes - VHB Eivion Thanotos #1353. Keiji Mutoh – 1,498 points - 30 votes - VHB Slick Rick #1454. Steve Regal – 1,494 points - 30 votes - VHB Stunning Grover #1355. Dave Finlay – 1,469 points - 27 votes – 1 #1 vote – 1 top 5 vote – 2 top 10 votes - VHB Benoitsmark #156. Nick Bockwinkel –1,451 points - 24 votes - VHB SE Williams #1157. Tully Blanchard – 1,442 points - 26 votes - VHB Ohtani’s Jacket #1458. Tatsumi Fujinami – 1,441 points – 26 votes - 1 top 10 vote - VHB WOODOO #859. Mariko Yoshida – 1,438 points - 24 votes – 1 top 5 vote – 1 top 10 vote - VHB Benoitsmark #360. Dynamite Kansai – 1,381 points - 21 votes - VHB Wild Pegasus #1661. Akira Maeda – 1,326 points - 24 votes - VHB Benoitsmark #1162. Ultimo Dragon – 1,303 points - 32 votes - VHB throughsilver #1563. Kiyoshi Tamura – 1,277 points - 23 votes – 2 top 10 votes - VHB Benoitsmark, Theseus #864. The Rock – 1,268 points - 26 votes – 2 top 10 votes - VHB AoA #865. Kyoko Inoue – 1,176 points - 21 votes – 1 top 10 vote VHB FLIK #766. Kazuo Yamazaki – 1,173 points - 20 votes – 1 top 10 vote - VHB Benoitsmark #1067. El Dandy – 1,171 points - 19 votes – 4 top 5 votes – 4 top 10 votes VHB Ohtani’s Jacket, Bix #268. Tiger Mask – 1,143 points – 22 votes – VHB Warriorfan #1169. Dory Funk Jr – 1,143 points – 21 votes – 1 top 5 vote - 3 top 10 votes – VHB Theseus #570. Mick Foley – 1,134 points – 23 votes – 2 top 10 votes - VHB Eivion Thanotos #971. Antonio Inoki – 1,121 points - 21 votes – 1 top 5 vote – 1 top 10 vote - VHB Shozo the strong #572. Masahiro Chono – 1,034 points - 20 votes - VHB Eivion Thanotos #2073. Lioness Asuka – 1,029 points – 20 votes – VHB FLIK #1174. El Samurai – 1,020 points - 24 votes – VHB roro ur boat #2775. Ricky Morton – 1,018 points - 20 votes - VHB Loss #1976. Bob Backlund – 1,010 points – 21 votes – VHB Goodhelmet #1977. Shiro Koshinaka - 957 points - 18 votes - VHB Theseus #1478. Adrian Adonis - 938 points - 19 votes - VHB Ohtani’s Jacket #2279. Dump Matsumoto – 852 points – 17 votes – VHB Owen #1580. Kurt Angle - 817 points - 21 votes - VHB AoA #2381. Marc Rocco - 813 points - 18 votes - VHB Famous Mortimer #1682. Lou Thesz - 811 points - 12 votes – 1 top 5 vote - 4 top 10 votes - VHB Benoitsmark #483. Great Sasuke – 801 points – 19 votes – VHB Warriorfan #2384. Chris Jericho – 798 points – 22 votes – VHB AoA #2485. Rick Rude – 794 points – 19 votes – VHB Andrew D Lacelle #2686. Hulk Hogan – 780 points – 15 votes – VHB SE Williams #1387. TAKA Michinoku - 743 points - 19 votes - VHB Eivion Thanotos #1888. Brian Pillman – 737 points – 18 votes – VHB Andrew D Lacelle #2389. Satanico - 735 points - 12 votes – 1 top 10 vote - VHB Bix #990. Dean Malenko – 716 points – 22 votes – VHB Andrew D Lacelle, Shozo the strong #2591. Toshiyo Yamada - 699 points - 13 votes - VHB greenman #1492. Psicosis - 682 points - 19 votes - VHB AoA #2593. Tommy Rogers – 656 points – 17 votes – VHB Dylan Waco #3594. Atlantis – 621 points – 12 votes – VHB Insane Clown #1695. Dan Kroffatt – 619 points – 15 votes – VHB ElPatoume #2696. Rick Martel – 598 points – 14 votes – VHB Andrew D Lacelle #3297. Naoki Sano – 579 points – 14 votes – VHB Wild Pegasus #1398. Dick Togo - 575 points - 19 votes - VHB Mr Dragon #3899. Sgt Slaughter – 550 points – 14 votes – VHB Benoitsmark #32100. Riki Choshu - 516 points - 13 votes - VHB Warriorfan #28 What say you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Redman Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 I think Aja Kong and maybe Hokuto will make it on, but I wouldn't want to bet on any other women making it. Of the names you didn't bold, I can see Terry Gordy, Ultimo Dragon, Shiro Koshinaka and Toshiyo Yamada (I assume not emboldening her was an oversight) slipping out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bierschwale Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 Could Ohtani miss entirely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Childs Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 No way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Redman Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 No I think Ohtani has enough supporters. I know I'll be putting him quite high. He'll certainly drop though. I wouldn't be surprised if Harley Race dropped from #12 all the way off. He'll take a dive, just like DK. Benoit will probably take the biggest non-joshi dive, just because so many people will refuse to rank him altogether on principle. Luchadors, John Cena and Jimmy Breaks will be the big winners in this poll, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkdoc Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 Owen Hart seems like a hugely obvious one JvK didn't bold Benoit/Eddie/Liger are guys who will stay in the overall 100, but may fall farther than anyone else in the old top 20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Childs Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 Owen Hart seems like a hugely obvious one JvK didn't bold Benoit/Eddie/Liger are guys who will stay in the overall 100, but may fall farther than anyone else in the old top 20. I suspect Liger holds on better than Race, Dynamite, Austin, Hokuto, Aja, Takada and maybe Brett. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsem43 Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 What about the Destroyer and Blue Panther? Destroyer was at his peak of internet buzz when this list was done. Panther will probably make a fair amount of people's lists, I just question if he'll get enough points to rank. Strangely, for people in the 90's, I think both Atlantis and Rick Martel are both locks and probably make the top 50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 The DVDVR sets made a big difference for some of the AWA guys at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Childs Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 Biggest DVDVR beneficiaries: Fujiwara, Lawler, Dundee, Fujinami, Choshu, Bock, Andre, Satanico. Maybe Buddy Rose as well, even though Portland has yet to be released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotJayTabb Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 Of those not highlighted, I'd be interested to see if Psychosis still makes the 100. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soup23 Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 You didn't bold Muto but I think he is in danger. I think for a lot of people that have watched Japanese footage he is too inconsistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 I felt last time around like Jumbo was a foregone conclusion for the top spot and this time, I don't think anyone is, so that's a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 Ultimo Dragon is going to have a rough time too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkdoc Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 ah yea i forgot some of those names in the top 20 it's just that people here really don't talk about Liger, good or bad, so he's easy to forget. i know he still has his top-20 believers though also no way Psicosis makes the overall 100 this time, feels like he's gotten exposed in the eyes of those who watch tons of footage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohtani's jacket Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 Panther is kind of interesting since in theory he's had a second career after unmasking in '08. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 I don't think Lothario will make this list, but I think he would make it on in 3 years or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 I don't think Lothario will make this list, but I think he would make it on in 3 years or so. The 2026 list is sure going to be interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted February 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 Let me tell you where I am for 2026. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsem43 Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 Sasuke is right there on the edge unless people love his recent wacky MPro stuff. Looking the other direction, Bockwinkel has to be the lowest ranked person with a chance at the top 10, maybe Fujinami. If not one of them it will probably be either Lawler or Casas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 Sasuke is right there on the edge unless people love his recent wacky MPro stuff. Looking the other direction, Bockwinkel has to be the lowest ranked person with a chance at the top 10, maybe Fujinami. If not one of them it will probably be either Lawler or Casas I think Lawler makes top ten, I don't think Bock will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bierschwale Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 He's only 98th to start, but it would be a legitimate shame if Togo didn't make it, after having his true career peak four/five years after the original list. I do think that he'll make it, but it struck me as worth pointing out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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