Grimmas Posted April 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Is there a contingency plan in place in the likely event that Grimmas gets arrested after revealing a top 20 pick? Is there too much riding on one Canadian? There is no crime in Canada, so I wouldn't worry. One big "sorry" and the cops let you go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestintheworld3589 Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 I really thought I was going to end up being the high vote on Foley as I had him at number 12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliott Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Hahahahaha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Foley was my #45. Too much really good stuff in WCW and WWF plus his ECW stint that was incredible from a "character work" standpoint. Yeah, I know. There are still a few stuff that I'm really not a fan of though, the stupid potato match with Vader, the infamous Hell in the Cell match with Da Bump (who am I kidding, it's Shane O-Mac who's got the nod now), the awful chairshots match with Rock at the Rumble. Maybe he's a bit of a nostalgia pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Would have liked to see Satanico finish in the top 20. I know I'm not as high on Dandy as everyone else but I definitely think he should have ranked ahead of Dandy to be (what I am pretty sure will be) the 3rd highest ranked luchadore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Satanico should have been higher. I don't see a case for Dandy over him. Frankly, I don't see a case for almost anyone over him. He was in my top 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Crackers Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 With Fujiwara and Satanico down my numbers 1 and 2 are out there. I love both of those guys and I'm happy they managed to make the top half of the ballot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Had Buddy Rose at #87. Haven't seen enough to put him higher, but the Hennig feud and the AWA stuff is good enough for me to make him part of my Top 100. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 You all suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 A jump of 203 spots is really good for Buddy Rose. I had him higher on my ballot but can't complain about how he finished considering Portland isn't really one of the territories most people usually seek out. I'd say his huge jump is evidence of more available footage helping him out but maybe it's just more of that awful "mainstream U.S. bias" creeping in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Fujiwara will definitely be the highest guy on the list that I am pissed I forgot to put on my list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Still complaining. The footage is all out there. Good on Hales the younger. I was the #3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cross Face Chicken Wing Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Nooooooo......we've lost Buddy. Oh well, No. 36 is a great showing so I shouldn't be too upset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 I'd say his huge jump is evidence of more available footage helping him out but maybe it's just more of that awful "mainstream U.S. bias" creeping in. Yeah, I was really thinking about Buddy Rose when I talked about mainstream US guys... Fucking Portland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 I'd say his huge jump is evidence of more available footage helping him out but maybe it's just more of that awful "mainstream U.S. bias" creeping in. Yeah, I was really thinking about Buddy Rose when I talked about mainstream US guys... Fucking Portland. You aren't the only person spouting that nonsense. pol and fxnj were both saying yesterday that the list is somehow evidence of people NOT watching footage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Buddy Rose has been one of the most pimped guys in the last few years, along with Fuji & Fuji and Lawler. I'm not surprised he did well. Still, in the end, I do think the category that will progress the most in the Top 100 is mainstream US guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cad Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 There was a breakdown of what types of wrestling people considered. U.S. was far, far ahead of anywhere else except "mainstream Japan". There objectively was a bias. Also guys who get talked up as #1 candidates finishing in the thirties isn't much of an argument that there can't have been any kind of bias. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 I see Satanico as a win over all. I had him in my top 15, but considering the fact that probably a third of the voters don't seem to like lucha much if at all, a top 40 appearance is impressive. I myself wish I had rated him one spot lower than I did, but get the arguments for him in the top five too. I see Buddy as another win. He came from complete off the radar to a top forty guy on the back of footage found in his garage and one year of AWA stuff. That is a huge turnaround. At his best he's one of the best wrestlers of all time, and his average vote was great. I do wish he'd finished higher, but what's key is he's at least on the periphery of the top tier. That said I'm mad at Devon for not having him at number one (he originally did). El Dandy finishing ahead of Satanico is shocking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Buddy Rose, who hasn't been talked up anywhere except here and DVDVR, jumping 233 spots from 2006 is not evidence of people "not watching footage" and just going on memory or whatever BS people are trying to come up with to justify why their favorite niche didn't do well. It doesn't matter if people on this board were pimping him as a possible #1 candidate because there aren't any other places on the internet where that discussion would take place. The idea that the voting was "infiltrated" by a bunch of horrible voters who only voted mainstream U.S. wrestlers really is not coming through in the results at all. Are there some ballots that didn't have anything but U.S. wrestlers? Yea but definitely not enough to where it's somehow tainted the entire pool. And it's not like there weren't ballots that were all guys who wrestled in Japan as evidenced by the ballot that had Inoki as #1 that GOTNW posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Another impressive thing about Buddy finishing so high is that he did it on the back of a territory that is barely known, and is often treated as a irrelevant even when it's brought up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Schneider Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Fujiwara will definitely be the highest guy on the list that I am pissed I forgot to put on my list You stink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbo Slice Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Will try and post more reactions when I get home from Vegas and shake off the mental fog, but outside of the Styles placement (and eventual Michaels placement), I'm happy right now with what I've seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Styles placement is being panned but he has had more years as a good worker or better than Bret, and a superior peak. Yes I'm running that stance into the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpchicago23 Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 I wonder if people in Japan construct lists like this and lose their shit when Flair is gone in the 30s. Damn mainstream puro bias Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bierschwale Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 I laughed like an idiot at the Dylan/Devon juxtaposition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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