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That big monster just tapped? What is this?

A WWE Raw™ vs. Smackdown Live™ Survivor Series™ Elimination Match.

When you're in a battle for brand supremacy, the adrenaline can lead to amazing feats. Basic psychology, really.

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Match was awful. That being said, Alexa Bliss has improved a lot since NXT. At least as far as character work is concerned. She has a good look now and doesn't feel so bland.

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I thought the women's match was fine and fun for what it was. Anyone expecting expert psychology or pinfalls that aren't rushed clearly don't remember past Survivor Series matches - they're all like this.

 

Still, I agree with the criticisms - Carmella being pinned by a jobber like Foxy, Sasha being disposed of like a midcarder, and Jax tapping out so quickly - but that kind of stuff is par for the course in a Survivor Series match. Odd that Naomi, of all people, got "protected" with the countout loss.

 

What was with Nikki Bella being replaced? Legit injury or did Nattie attack her?

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Match was awful. That being said, Alexa Bliss has improved a lot since NXT. At least as far as character work is concerned. She has a good look now and doesn't feel so bland.

Knee to the face during the pin is worth at least a +10 in 2K17 overall rating.
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Alexa and Nia looked very good in this match, and to a lesser degree, so did Naomi. There were some spots that unfortunately fell apart, but overall it was fine.

 

Hope the crowd remains hot for the remainder of the show.

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I thought the women's match was fine and fun for what it was. Anyone expecting expert psychology or pinfalls that aren't rushed clearly don't remember past Survivor Series matches - they're all like this.

I've literally just watched Survivor Series 88 and that whole show is phenomenally well booked and has some great psychology.

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Well that was very disappointing. At first I thought they might give it time when it was down to 2 on 2. Then again when Lynch was down 2 to 1. But no.

 

I was hoping for Bayley to be the sole survivor and thought that's what they'd do.
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I thought the women's match was fine and fun for what it was. Anyone expecting expert psychology or pinfalls that aren't rushed clearly don't remember past Survivor Series matches - they're all like this.

I've literally just watched Survivor Series 88 and that whole show is phenomenally well booked and has some great psychology.

 

 

Fair enough, but watch '91 or beyond and they're not a far cry from that women's match. I'm not saying the women's match was blameless - there are definitely things to criticize - but I think people have rose-colored glasses about past Survivor Series matches.

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Well I guess they are already building up the inevitable James Ellsworth turn on Smackdown to join RAW

 

I hope not, because his whole appeal is that he's a babyface. Ditto for Foley's. (Obviously Foley was a fantastic heel in his day, but that's not the role anyone wants to see him in now IMO.)

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I thought the women's match was fine and fun for what it was. Anyone expecting expert psychology or pinfalls that aren't rushed clearly don't remember past Survivor Series matches - they're all like this.

 

I've literally just watched Survivor Series 88 and that whole show is phenomenally well booked and has some great psychology.

Fair enough, but watch '91 or beyond and they're not a far cry from that women's match. I'm not saying the women's match was blameless - there are definitely things to criticize - but I think people have rose-colored glasses about past Survivor Series matches.

Yeah, they put less care into the gimmick and its nuances over time definitely.

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How does the ten chants over the referees counts come off on TV?

 

Terrible and pointless. Its great when a crowd adds to a show, and they paid for their tickets so have at it. But no one is watching to see what kind of show the crowd will put on.

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