The Honor Roll: ROH's 50 Greatest Wrestlers Ever Project - RESULTS DISCUSSION

[bradhindsight]

To celebrate Ring of Honor’s 15th anniversary, Place to Be Nation and Voices of Wrestling have teamed up to present The Honor Roll: ROH’s 50 Greatest Wrestlers Ever and an offshoot poll ROH’s 10 Greatest Non-Wrestlers.

 

Here are links to both pages, which include the embedded form for voting. Links to the nominees' discussion threads and other project info are also within:

 

Top 50 ROH Wrestlers:

 

http://placetobenation.com/the-honor-roll-rohs-50-greatest-wrestlers-ever-poll/

 

Top 10 Non-Wrestlers:

 

http://placetobenation.com/the-honor-roll-rohs-10-greatest-non-wrestlers-poll/

 

I want to thank everyone in advance who takes the time to submit a ballot. Voting is open through the month of February and the results will be released March 1st - 9th in advance of their 15th Anniversary show.

[Mad Dog]

I sent a ballot in. I only added Sal Rinauro that wasn't already on the list.

[ShittyLittleBoots]

Submitted my ballot. Gonna be interesting to see who make the top-10. Danielson & Joe are locks for top-2, then Nigel, Punk, Aries, Styles, Roddy, Jay Briscoe, Low Ki & KENTA, I'd predict.

[Mad Dog]

I kind of based mine on appearances so guys like KENTA got moved down the list for fewer appearances.

[bradhindsight]

Thanks Mad Dog - I'll create a thread for Sal.

 

and thanks SLB - appreciate you guys both sending one in.

[Laz]

Similar to Mad Dog. I weighed overall quality of work, importance to ROH, and length of tenure in.

[bradhindsight]

Good stuff there.

 

The one category I found myself dismissing (from its roots in BIGLAV) was base ability. Because I feel like if you're in the top 50, ROH is a very worker-heavy promotion so everyone's base is high. I refined my categories to:

 

Length of run (calculated "years" worth of work so a 6 month run = .5)

Roles/styles (heel/face, tag/singles, etc)

Significance/influence (titles is a component here)

Matches/stories/feuds (quality of work plays into this cat)

Intangibles

[Grimmas]

Going to be difficult, because it's just not greatness, but greatness in ROH.

 

Someone like Hero is top 3 workers to work there, but wouldn't make top 3 on this kind of list.

[Jimmy Redman]

I so wish I could participate in this, I love a good list as much as anyone, but honestly I don't know if I could even name 50 wrestlers from ROH.

 

Will be watching with interest though.

[bradhindsight]

And hey - don't forget the Top 10 Non-Wrestlers offshoot poll guys. Our buddy Will threw in a late nomination for Papa Briscoe (I loved this). There's a good mix of managers/backstage guys and other folks in play here.

[goodhelmet]

I really can't believe people forgot about Papa Briscoe.

[El Dragon]

Can I nominate Mick Foley for the Non-Wrestler list? Thought he did some good work from 04-05.

[bradhindsight]

Yes- I started a thread and added to list. That's another good one. Thanks for participating!

[Childs]

I was thinking I'd submit a ballot. But then I went and looked at the nominees and couldn't find anywhere close to 50 I wanted to vote for. Anyone else have that problem? I'm hampered by not having followed ROH closely in recent years.

[Laz]

I had that issue once I got halfway in. The list of nominees came in very handy after 25/26, and my own ballot reflected the overall drop in quality after the SBG era started.

[Mad Dog]

I went in, put guys where I thought they should be. Then I started filling in the gaps. So guys moved up and down as I looked at nominations and weighed them against the guys that I hadn't ranked yet. So someone like Spanky started at 25 and moved up a few spots as I found people I thought he was better than.

 

Plus I had forgotten a lot of acts. Like I forgot the Havana Pitbulls which moved Rocky Romero way up my list.

[bradhindsight]

Rocky definitely deserves a spot, I'm hoping he finishes well.

 

Childs - it's funny, early on there were some big names where you'd see a guy say "there's no way he makes my list", but when you actually sit down to flesh it out, it's not that easy to get that many names.

 

Which is why we did 50 - it allows for some good variance in the last 20 or so (some actually scoffed at why we wouldn't do 100 - no way).

 

The SBG era has a lot of guys that don't rank at all when it comes to ROH significance or influence so they're muddled together in a lower tier (for me at least).

[goodhelmet]

SBG era?

[Mad Dog]

Sinclair Broadcasting.

[bradhindsight]

SBG era?

 

2011-present

[bradhindsight]

Both polls open through the end of the month!

[Stosh]

I just filled out a ballot. There's one jobber type near the end of my list that I'm interested to see if he gets many votes. I recall a really solid run where he was super over.

[Cap]

Just submitted my ballot. Saw this a few days back and gave it some thought. ROH is what got me back into wrestling in 2003 I haven't always kept up, especially since say 2010 or so, but i was at the 14th Anny show and kind of try to keep an eye on it, going to through natural ebbs and flows, so this was a lot of fun to put together.

 

The top 15-20 were pretty easy. The bottom few were really hard.

[goodhelmet]

I probably won't make the deadline

[supersonic]

Something to consider:

 

I have Aries and McGuinness pretty much equal. They both had their first quality match on the same night, involving each other actually. So what got the nod? Since they were pretty much equal, Aries by default by sticking around for another year.