sek69 Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 JR was being his usual passive-aggressive self on Twitter asking why people were mad about the end of the battle royal. "Was it because it was a draw", no Jim it's because the company is trying to pretend it was a draw when anyone with eyes could see it wasn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 I hope the finish to that battle royal wins Most Disgusting Promotional Tactic for 2017. Absolutely no place for lying in professional wrestling, I'm really disgusted. Hope #CancelWWENetwork starts trending over this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Well that's an appropriate level response for pointing out that WWE is pretending something happened that clearly didn't. Obviously it's not something warranting getting the tar and feathers out over, but apparently any mention of the obvious is seen as hysteria to some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Well that's an appropriate level response for pointing out that WWE is pretending something happened that clearly didn't. You just described the whole basis of pro wrestling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stro Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Are people actually upset about this? That a battle royal finish had a mistimed ending and they went with what they had planned anyway? It's 2017. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Uh, am I in some kind of bizzaro world here? Pointing out a screwup is now being upset about something. I mean, maybe they should have called an audible like Vince did at the Rumble that got screwed up (minus the blown quads of course) but no one's getting legit upset here. More like "lol, that didn't go as planned now did it". Â My initial post on it was JR being his usual self pretending that people were actually mad instead of pointing out the obvious screwup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stro Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 I don't know what happened so I was genuinely asking if people were mad or not. JR is a known rabble rouser, so I ignore him and the rest of wrestling talking heads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Did I miss any mention of Ivan Koloff on TV this week? Obviously George Steele would be more important in the "nothing prior to 1984 ever existed" WWE mindset, but considering Bruno is back in the fold there was a chance to give Uncle Ivan his due as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alucard Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 Did I miss any mention of Ivan Koloff on TV this week? Obviously George Steele would be more important in the "nothing prior to 1984 ever existed" WWE mindset, but considering Bruno is back in the fold there was a chance to give Uncle Ivan his due as well. Â He did get a little "In Memory Of" graphic on Raw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 Seeing Big Show in shape and kind of mobile like he was when he was younger made me really sad. What could have been if he could have managed his weight his whole career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stro Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 Becky should drop her missile dropkick. It looks terrible and also looks like she's going to give herself a concussion/back injury on the landing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Redman Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 Devil's Advocate: For the people who objected to Omega and Okada kicking out of a top rope dragon suplex in January, what is the fundamental difference between that and Braun kicking out of a top rope KO Punch of Doom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyPulis'Cap Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 Becky should drop her missile dropkick. It looks terrible and also looks like she's going to give herself a concussion/back injury on the landing. Â Yeah, much as I love Becky, I cringe when she pulls it out. When she was on Austin's podcast he actually called her up on it and basically said don't do it anymore unless it's a big match/Wrestlemania but I've noticed it creeping into TV matches again recently. I wonder if its a consequence of seeing some of the matches that Charlotte and Sasha were having and thinking that she needs to go all out in every match. Â Re: the match with Alexa this week, I was really digging it until the very abrupt ending. I was all geared up for the Mickie run in to cost her the match but the ending with the 'blow to the throat' seemed a bit weak when they were trying to get over the fact that the ref's back was turned and that Alexa stole the match. Â Also echo TG's points above about the Battle Royale being much more enjoyable than normal. I think just having the 10 guys in there meant more space for doing stuff and less just leaning on the ropes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 I'd say it was almost certainly because of Charlotte pulling out the "OMG" moves at every opportunity. Also didn't Becky have a serious concussion in her pre WWE life? I seem to remember the roverts of the world thinking her career was done at one point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMKK Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 Devil's Advocate: For the people who objected to Omega and Okada kicking out of a top rope dragon suplex in January, what is the fundamental difference between that and Braun kicking out of a top rope KO Punch of Doom? Â The top rope doesn't add anything to the KO punch - he jumped from the second rope and got punched when he landed on his feat. That's a lot different to being thrown backwards and at an angle onto the back of your neck from the top rope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stro Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 Why she thinks a shitty missile dropkick is on the same level as a moonsault off the announce table/stage is anyone's guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 Devil's Advocate: For the people who objected to Omega and Okada kicking out of a top rope dragon suplex in January, what is the fundamental difference between that and Braun kicking out of a top rope KO Punch of Doom? Â I wonder if the issue isn't that one move is wholly symbolic while the other is actually dangerous. Â I think the correct answer (and I haven't seen the match) is that it's different when a monster survives a killshot than even a main event wrestler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDuke Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 I didn't mind the finish to the Smackdown battle royal. Usually wrestling logic says it doesn't matter what the fans actually see, it only matters what the referee claims he did or did not see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirEdger Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Yes, for me too usually, except that in this instance, even with the camera angle, it was clearly evident that AJ Styles' feet touched the floor first so in essence, it was a botched finish. I'm not willing to necessarily blame both guys themselves but perhaps it should've been executed so differently that at least, if it was slightly botched, that it still wouldn't been obvious enough to cause an uproar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stro Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Has there ever been a finish to a battle royal where two guys went out at the same time and one was declared the winner by landing a fraction of a second later than the other? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Redman Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 I can't remember specifics but I feel like almost assuredly yes. I can picture it, I remember it happening quite clearly, but honestly it could have been any battle royal on WWE TV in the past 12 years for all I know. Â So not very helpful, but again I think the answer is yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBadMick Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Kinda/sorta related, but the 'same time exits' in cage matches with Undertaker/Batista in May '07 and the SNME Hogan/Orndorff had a bit of fancy editing on replays.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Dave always says Rock and Big Show at Royal Rumble 2000 had a messed up finish with Rock clearly hitting first and they had to come up with an angle to cover for it, but that wasn't evident from the camera angle watching the match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stro Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Dave always says Rock and Big Show at Royal Rumble 2000 had a messed up finish with Rock clearly hitting first and they had to come up with an angle to cover for it, but that wasn't evident from the camera angle watching the match. This looks pretty evident to me: Â There's no way Rock's feet didn't hit the floor even from that angle without actually seeing his feet hit. Half the arena saw it right in front of them. The AJ/Harper wasn't nearly bad looking, since both were out of the ring and hitting the floor anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricR Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 Holy shit that bump by Show tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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