hammerva Posted June 19, 2017 Report Posted June 19, 2017 So we got our first "Nakamura hasn't performed to his level in the ring" narrative on the pre-show. Granted he is right but don't really need Sam Roberts to tell me that. Don't see tonight being the time it happens as well Quote
Cap Posted June 19, 2017 Report Posted June 19, 2017 Man... my wife is really not a fan of Sam Roberts. Quote
...TG Posted June 19, 2017 Report Posted June 19, 2017 Man... my wife is really not a fan of Sam Roberts. I tend to agree with her. Not really sure what his purpose is. Quote
El Dragon Posted June 19, 2017 Report Posted June 19, 2017 Why is there a promo video AFTER the entrances? The hell? Quote
WingedEagle Posted June 19, 2017 Report Posted June 19, 2017 Why is there a promo video AFTER the entrances? The hell? Gotta cool off the live crowd before the showstealer. Quote
C.S. Posted June 19, 2017 Report Posted June 19, 2017 Sam Roberts is an idiot if he said that. Way to bury Nakamura. Quote
El Dragon Posted June 19, 2017 Report Posted June 19, 2017 I kinda love how back to ladder match basics this has been so far. Nothing crazy, but it's working for me. Quote
Flyin' Brian Posted June 19, 2017 Report Posted June 19, 2017 Wow. If that ending stands, that is a slap in the face to the Smackdown women's division. Quote
El Dragon Posted June 19, 2017 Report Posted June 19, 2017 Lynch/Ellsworth might be the best built long term program WWE has done in a long time. Quote
Flyin' Brian Posted June 19, 2017 Report Posted June 19, 2017 The first Women's Money In The Bank Ladder Match ever, and the winner has to have a man climb the ladder and win it for her. Amazing, and not in a good way. Quote
hammerva Posted June 19, 2017 Report Posted June 19, 2017 Well now we know why this was the 1st match on the show. Man that was embarrassing. If I was the RAW women I would be much more happier They really should replay the promo video from earlier in the match on Tuesday and then having Ellsworth goofy no chin ass at the end saying something like "Yeah but it takes a real man to win it". Quote
WingedEagle Posted June 19, 2017 Report Posted June 19, 2017 Really a shame. It was a very solid effort until the finish with enough big spots and transitions to keep things interesting. But that finish was a total killer. Quote
El Dragon Posted June 19, 2017 Report Posted June 19, 2017 I kept expecting them to reverse the decision, and they never did. I mean, that gets some heel heat maybe, but its gonna get more "Fuck this Bullshit" heat. Quote
jcmmnx Posted June 19, 2017 Report Posted June 19, 2017 Fucking Ellsworth. Well at least no one got hurt, and they were actually trying to win the match instead of setting up spots. Epic fail on the forced history stuff by having fuckface get the briefcase though. Quote
C.S. Posted June 19, 2017 Report Posted June 19, 2017 One of the worst finishes in a year filled with bad ones. Just brutal. Quote
Strummer Posted June 19, 2017 Report Posted June 19, 2017 I get the obvious problems but I still like Carmella and .Ellsworth as an act. Charlotte and Becky didn't need it. Tamina is a lost cause and Nattie doesn't fit the gimmick with her current character Quote
...TG Posted June 19, 2017 Report Posted June 19, 2017 The whole MitB gimmick is super played out at this point. Hopefully this is the final nail in that coffin. Quote
jcmmnx Posted June 19, 2017 Report Posted June 19, 2017 A man decides the winner in the history making first ever women's MITB match. I'm not much for the over the top forced history stuff, but if you're going to do it let the women have their moment. I'm surprised Becky can stay as over as she does while rarely winning anything. Quote
El Dragon Posted June 19, 2017 Report Posted June 19, 2017 The Usos are really really good right now. Trash talking Xavier all while setting up the Lariat on the outside. God they rule. Quote
Cap Posted June 19, 2017 Report Posted June 19, 2017 God Damn It... What useless nonsense. I am all for them playing their heels against the understood good of women's wrestling getting these kinds of opportunities and the momentum/respect women have been getting on the whole. Hell, I think that can actually be good for getting the women's divisions over long term and getting legit heat on heels in the short term. But going out of their way to muddy this felt unnecessary and was really unsatisfying. It was even poorly executed for what it was. All the heat goes to Ellsworth. They could have done this in a way where Carmella was the center of attention, even if she sent him up the ladder. Yep.. Usos are really thriving in this role. Quote
DMJ Posted June 19, 2017 Report Posted June 19, 2017 I think calling this a "slap in the face to the women" is the point and will be the focus going forward - as Charlotte, Becky, etc. have a legit babyface gripe that the women's match was "won" by a woman who needed a man to hand her the briefcase. I usually hate the WWE for their "troll" booking - but this time, it at least has some timely substance beyond "Fans think Jinder is a talentless, walking Wellness Violation so let's have him win the title! That'll really set those redditers off!" Plus, when you consider the options, you kind of need to give Carmella the briefcase. Tamina, from her work in this match, is still really green and not over at all, Charlotte and Becky are over enough that they don't need the briefcase, and Natalya is like the Women's Division version of Big Show - she's been a face, she's been a heel, she's done serious, she's done comedy - she's a solid hand but is a role player. Carmella with the briefcase at least gives that character relevance for the foreseeable future. Quote
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