Dreamboat Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 Is there a joshi wrestler that fits this criteria? I'd say Aja Kong. Not sure how far back you'd want to go, but vs Satomura in 2016 is the later end I'd go for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlag Posted May 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 Is there a joshi wrestler that fits this criteria? Aja Kong -- 27 years tag with Grizzly Iwamoto, Nakano and Bison Kimura in 1990 vs Chihiro Hashimoto (2017) Two others who are approaching that level: Meiko Satomura -- 22 years vs. Toshiyo Yamada (1996) vs. Io Shirai (2018) Ayako Hamada -- 20 years vs. Mariko Yoshida (1998) vs. Chihiro Hashimoto (2018) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohtani's jacket Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 Devil Masami was a good worker from the late 70s through to the late 90s and even her 2000 stuff hasn't been as bad as I expected. I'm sure she passes the 25-year benchmark. Jaguar, Chigusa, Lioness, and Aja would also be contenders. Apparently, I need to watch Chihiro Hashimoto matches. The one that I strongly agreed with was Fujinami. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohtani's jacket Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 Don't forget about Blue Panther. Blue Panther -- 21 years vs. Atlantis (1991) vs. Casas (2012) He may have had a great match lately. I haven't been paying attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 I liked Panther's match with Sam Adonis from last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohtani's jacket Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 I am an old man and don't know who Sam Adonis is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss Rock Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 Corey Graves' brother who works for CMLL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Hall Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 The likes of William Regal, Dave Taylor and Dave Finlay have to be in there don't there? All were having great matches well into the 21st century and all been wrestling since the late seventies/early eighties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 Yeah, I'm not sure if the Roy Regal stuff is great (it might be, I haven't seen it), but we could call the Ohno match in 2013 his last great one, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 What's Steve Grey's last great match? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Hall Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 Yeah, I'm not sure if the Roy Regal stuff is great (it might be, I haven't seen it), but we could call the Ohno match in 2013 his last great one, right? His first televised match against Marty Jones from 1986 is actually on YouTube and he already looks very technically proficient despite only being a skinny 18 year old, so potentially looking at 27 years as I can't imagine much footage before that exists, but I think we can comfortably say he's in the 20 year + category. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSR Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 The likes of William Regal, Dave Taylor and Dave Finlay have to be in there don't there? All were having great matches well into the 21st century and all been wrestling since the late seventies/early eighties. Finlay has got the Young David match from '82, although I've no idea what his last 'great' match would be as I don't follow modern Indy stuff that much. OJ would have a better idea regarding Regal, however there's nothing that sticks out in my mind from his UK stuff until he arrived in WCW. What's Steve Grey's last great match? There's a few matches from the mid-2000s up on youtube. I remember Rob Brazier used to talk highly of the Steve Quintain bout from WAW, plus there's another on there against Jonny Storm. Whether that reaches the 'great' level... He wrestled as late as 2015, the issue is I doubt whether much of his stuff from the 2000s was taped (although I know PWF at one point put their shows on DVD as I used to have some). A post from Rob in the GWE thread on Grey: Longevity gives Grey an edge over a lot of the WOS guys too, they guy was flat out awesome in to the 00's, having really good matches with a wide range of guys like Taiji Ishimori, Marty Scurll and his old rival Mal Sanders. I also saw him work heel once, it was spectacular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss Rock Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 El Satanico - 30 years 1984: Koshinaka, Cochise, Atlantis 2014: El Dandy (maybe not so much "great" as "two old-timers having a really solid match") Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superkix Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 What about Masanobu Fuchi? He had a pretty great (for his age) match last year against TAJIRI and I know he had good matches and tags with Wagner in 1980 but I haven't seen much of his work from the 1970s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Schneider Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 Yeah, I'm not sure if the Roy Regal stuff is great (it might be, I haven't seen it), but we could call the Ohno match in 2013 his last great one, right? The Cesaro match was after the Ohno match, and was his last match period. I have the Regal vs. Jones match from 1986 rated as a GREAT match, and the Tiger Singh match from 87 rated as an EPIC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Hall Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 Yeah, I'm not sure if the Roy Regal stuff is great (it might be, I haven't seen it), but we could call the Ohno match in 2013 his last great one, right? The Cesaro match was after the Ohno match, and was his last match period. I have the Regal vs. Jones match from 1986 rated as a GREAT match, and the Tiger Singh match from 87 rated as an EPIC Just went and rewatched the Marty Jones match, I would agree there. Not seen the Tiger Singh match though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richeyedwards Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 Yeah, I'm not sure if the Roy Regal stuff is great (it might be, I haven't seen it), but we could call the Ohno match in 2013 his last great one, right? Same year but the cesaro match was pretty great too, I think it was his last ever match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordi Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 Great idea for a topic! Along similar lines, which wrestler had the * shortest * time between two pretty great matches? Examples: Bob Backlund vs Ken Patera (Texas Death Match, 5/19/80) and vs Dusty (5/27/80, in New Japan) - 8 days Jumbo vs Misawa 4/18/91 and Misawa, Kawada, & Kobashi vs Jumbo, Taue, & Fuchi 4/20/91 - 2 days Benoit & Jericho vs Austin & HHH (RAW 5/21/01) and vs E&C, Hardys, Dudleys (SD, 5/24/01) - 3 Days (There is almost certainly an argument to be made for Kong or Hokuto and/or Kansai having done it within a few hours during the Big Egg V*TOP tournament...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickH Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 Great idea for a topic! Along similar lines, which wrestler had the * shortest * time between two pretty great matches? Bret Hart vs Mr Perfect (KOTR 93), Bret Hart vs Bam Bam Bigelow (KOTR 93) approx. 30 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordi Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 Good call, NickH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotJayTabb Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 How early can you go for Steamboat? The Jericho match and his brief comeback in 2009 was a lot of fun. According to Wiki, he even had a match this year for AIW, though I've no idea if it was any good. But you could certainly get nearly 30 years up to the Jericho match Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordi Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 How early can you go for Steamboat? His '77 run vs Flair, maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss Rock Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 Kenny Omega vs. Kazuchika Okada (8/12/17) and Kenny Omega vs. Tetsuya Naito (8/13/17)-1 day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 I am still quasi serious that I think we should do a footage-based "Greatest Peak Ever," with a 3 or 6 month period in mind and maybe no arguing between two peaks of the same wrestler. GWE focused on the whole career and GME focuses on one night. This would be somewhat in the middle (though you'd look at everything a wrestler did in that small period). I just think the arguments could be interesting and it could potentially put a whole different group of people at play towards the top (Guerrero becomes more interesting, for instance). I'm probably nuts though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Childs Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 I am still quasi serious that I think we should do a footage-based "Greatest Peak Ever," with a 3 or 6 month period in mind and maybe no arguing between two peaks of the same wrestler. GWE focused on the whole career and GME focuses on one night. This would be somewhat in the middle (though you'd look at everything a wrestler did in that small period). I just think the arguments could be interesting and it could potentially put a whole different group of people at play towards the top (Guerrero becomes more interesting, for instance). I'm probably nuts though. I'm envisioning 8-page threads on what constitutes "peak." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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