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[rovert]

"I had to tell creative, if there is a Fire Russo chant in this arena, I will fire someone else."

 

There it is, TNA in a nutshell.

I can sort of understand her logic here (without the benefit of context of the question asked and her whole answer). "Fire Russo" to her, means that they hate the booking. Shit rolls downhill, always has and always will. So if the fans dislike the booking, then it's going to be the low man on the totem pole who feels the brunt of it. It's no different than last year when the WWE started feeling the impact of the shitty economy. They didn't respond by firing HHH, Orton, Cena, etc. when they headlined PPVs that drew less money than the previous year. They responded by laying off front office staff.

 

Especially when the wrap was that most of segments that got a fire Russo chant were Dutch Mantels.

[Bix]

Dixie is strangely endearing.

[jdw]

Here's some better evidence for those Sherdoggers that UFC is pure evil: UFC's Fertitta brothers are not above using illegal tactics to thwart union formation

Good timing by the NLRB, and for reasons that have nothing to do with the Brothers or UFC.

 

John

[sek69]

Oh man, it looks like they got questions for that Dixie shoot from Wrestling Classics. Nothing like having completely delusional shut-ins browbeating the owner of a wrestling company on how she should run her business.

[Boondocks Kernoodle]

Those delusional shut-ins probably could run a wrestling company better than Dixie Carter.

[sek69]

I'm sure Crimson Mask would book an angle where someone jumps over a car in a red speedo and Mark Nulty would replace Don West as TNA's pitchman except he would be hawking DVDs of deceased old timey wrestlers.

 

And then no matter what else happens, Dr. Jeff will come out and say he did it better when he was in the biz.

[kjh]

"I had to tell creative, if there is a Fire Russo chant in this arena, I will fire someone else."

 

There it is, TNA in a nutshell.

I can sort of understand her logic here (without the benefit of context of the question asked and her whole answer). "Fire Russo" to her, means that they hate the booking. Shit rolls downhill, always has and always will. So if the fans dislike the booking, then it's going to be the low man on the totem pole who feels the brunt of it. It's no different than last year when the WWE started feeling the impact of the shitty economy. They didn't respond by firing HHH, Orton, Cena, etc. when they headlined PPVs that drew less money than the previous year. They responded by laying off front office staff.

 

Especially when the wrap was that most of segments that got a fire Russo chant were Dutch Mantels.

Wasn't that just Vince Russo working Wade Keller?

[rovert]

Had a look at 57talk all there is a message of:

Season 3 starts Soon ... issues with the boss (working through them)

Check out the price of gold on the top right hand corner of the site with the Euro tanking

http://57gold.com/index.asp

 

 

Gold continues to fall and Garry posted this

Anyone who has guest suggestions for season 3 (our last) is welcome to email (FAST BLAST) or call 480-634-1320 ... That includes Kenny E and anyone else who has been trying to get in touch with me =)... Looking for contact info for Sonny King etc ...

Noooo

 

Wasn't that just Vince Russo working Wade Keller?

Not sure but Russo has been blamed for angles he didnt book. Remember Alex Shelley and others aped Jackass for a few shows beginning the PPV Russo was backstage? Everyone blamed him but he didnt start booking until the next IMPACT!

[S.L.L.]

Wasn't that just Vince Russo working Wade Keller?

Not sure but Russo has been blamed for angles he didnt book. Remember Alex Shelley and others aped Jackass for a few shows beginning the PPV Russo was backstage? Everyone blamed him but he didnt start booking until the next IMPACT!

 

Angle started on the third Impact before that PPV. Russo wasn't even announced as returning to the fold until just before the PPV itself, and it was blown off at that PPV. Nobody blamed him for that at the time. I don't know if he's caught some retroactive blame for it, but nobody thought that was his when it was happening.

[Grimmas]

That blowup doll ruining a match and Petey Williams wrestling after being slipped a laxative had to had been Russo.

[Loss]

Russo getting blamed for stuff he had nothing to do with is still a valid criticism, because it was the Russo philosophy at play, even if he didn't write it. That's not unique to him. Plenty of Dusty finishes have happened that Dusty didn't book.

[kjh]

Matt Hardy continues his descent into drunken insanity...

[rovert]

Wasn't that just Vince Russo working Wade Keller?

Not sure but Russo has been blamed for angles he didnt book. Remember Alex Shelley and others aped Jackass for a few shows beginning the PPV Russo was backstage? Everyone blamed him but he didnt start booking until the next IMPACT!

 

Angle started on the third Impact before that PPV. Russo wasn't even announced as returning to the fold until just before the PPV itself, and it was blown off at that PPV. Nobody blamed him for that at the time. I don't know if he's caught some retroactive blame for it, but nobody thought that was his when it was happening.

 

Im fairly sure that he was blamed initially at the time.

 

Matt Hardy continues his descent into drunken insanity...

He is like Paul London if Paul London was interested in Wrestling.

[Bix]

At least he stopped tweeting in code about getting wasted on pills.

[S.L.L.]

Wasn't that just Vince Russo working Wade Keller?

Not sure but Russo has been blamed for angles he didnt book. Remember Alex Shelley and others aped Jackass for a few shows beginning the PPV Russo was backstage? Everyone blamed him but he didnt start booking until the next IMPACT!

 

Angle started on the third Impact before that PPV. Russo wasn't even announced as returning to the fold until just before the PPV itself, and it was blown off at that PPV. Nobody blamed him for that at the time. I don't know if he's caught some retroactive blame for it, but nobody thought that was his when it was happening.

 

Im fairly sure that he was blamed initially at the time.

You're wrong.

 

Angle begins on the 9/7/06 Impact.

 

Russo is rehired on 9/21/06, and is announced as being rehired shortly thereafter.

 

Angle ends at the No Surrender PPV, held on 9/24/06

 

People not only wouldn't have known that Russo wasn't to blame, they wouldn't have even known he was around to blame, and the angle ended right after they found out. If you look through what was written at the time, nobody was blaming him for any then-current TNA booking until after they actually knew he was in the company again. Jackass angle was before that.

[rovert]

Wasn't that just Vince Russo working Wade Keller?

Not sure but Russo has been blamed for angles he didnt book. Remember Alex Shelley and others aped Jackass for a few shows beginning the PPV Russo was backstage? Everyone blamed him but he didnt start booking until the next IMPACT!

 

Angle started on the third Impact before that PPV. Russo wasn't even announced as returning to the fold until just before the PPV itself, and it was blown off at that PPV. Nobody blamed him for that at the time. I don't know if he's caught some retroactive blame for it, but nobody thought that was his when it was happening.

 

Im fairly sure that he was blamed initially at the time.

 

You're wrong.

 

Angle begins on the 9/7/06 Impact.

 

Russo is rehired on 9/21/06, and is announced as being rehired shortly thereafter.

 

Angle ends at the No Surrender PPV, held on 9/24/06

 

People not only wouldn't have known that Russo wasn't to blame, they wouldn't have even known he was around to blame, and the angle ended right after they found out. If you look through what was written at the time, nobody was blaming him for any then-current TNA booking until after they actually knew he was in the company again. Jackass angle was before that.

 

I guess Russo was just blamed for the doll then if anything, damn you and your facts.

[Hollinger.]

I am 900% sure that the word even before the angle started was that it was something Shelley, Sabin and Dutt came up with.

[El-P]

Matt Hardy continues his descent into drunken insanity...

This is quite the good introducing vignette from the 80's/90's.

[kjh]

At least he stopped tweeting in code about getting wasted on pills.

When was this? I was being kind when I labelled his insanity merely drunken.

[Bix]

http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Atwit...tthardybrand+xm

[sek69]

Those all linked to tweets about listening to XM radio, is XM some kind of drug shorthand I'm not aware of?

[Guest The 3H's]

Yeah, I don't see the pill codes either.

[Bix]

Those all linked to tweets about listening to XM radio, is XM some kind of drug shorthand I'm not aware of?

It is among the OMEGA alumni.

[Bob Morris]

Russo getting blamed for stuff he had nothing to do with is still a valid criticism, because it was the Russo philosophy at play, even if he didn't write it. That's not unique to him. Plenty of Dusty finishes have happened that Dusty didn't book.

 

Point taken, but the problem comes with people assuming, if an angle in TNA was bad at any point, it must have been Russo, when it's not necessarily the case. Plenty of bookers have booked bad material.

 

That being said, to know when it's likely Russo's booking, you look for certain elements. The most prominent example is anything built around a "worked shoot," such as the VKM stuff a few years back (and as I recall, Keller did confirm Russo wrote that stuff). I would also believe nearly everything that centered around the Main Event Mafia vs. the TNA Originals had Russo's hand in it as that was certainly based on a "worked shoot" concept (old guys don't want to give up their spots to the young guys... or a reverse New Blood vs. Millioniare's Club, if you prefer ).

 

I did hear that Abyss was booking some of his own material at one point when the stuff he had a hand in was bad (some would say it still is). I know it's easy to pin the blame on Russo for it, but if it was proven correct that Abyss did book his own stuff, it wouldn't surprise me.

[Jingus]

I personally love the youshoots(except for Missy's) and the timelines. I think they are great concepts. The youshoot concept gets rid of the producers not knowing certain aspects of guys careers and gets the questions the people want to ask. The only parts I don't like are when they involve sex or when they include the people who are trolling.

I like Oliver's style too. He's better than any other shoot interviewer I can think of, although that's admittedly not unlike being the world's friendliest suicide bomber. The Youshoot gimmick is actually pretty brilliant, since it allows him to ask all the hard questions that guys like Feinstein would always puss out on, yet still allow him to stay friendly with the worker in question since it's not technically him who asked. He was nailing Dixie with some pretty fucking vicious shit in that trailer, but the way he works it makes it seem like he's not the bad guy. He can bring up the same subjects that the most bitter asshole smarks would, and phrase it as "oh, you wacky nerds with your inappropriate queries!" and a mark like Carter never knows the difference.

 

I noticed our kind friend Hollinger was nice enough to link to a megaupload of Maria's YS video a couple threads down. Does any other generous gentlemen happen to have any of these laying around in convenient digital format? Cornette's is the one everyone would be most interested in, of course, but any of 'em would be worth a looksee.

 

She has also never did drugs apparently?

 

What about her mythical party house everyone used to go on about?

I can't speak for her house, but it was common to see Dixie double-fisting beers in the crowd at the Nashville shows.

 

Matt Hardy continues his descent into drunken insanity...

Is it strange that my first reaction to that speech was "man, Teddy Hart really let himself go"?

 

Those all linked to tweets about listening to XM radio, is XM some kind of drug shorthand I'm not aware of?

It is among the OMEGA alumni.

Code for what? Drug acronyms usually aren't very creative, and I can't offhand think of any popular pills that have an X and an M in the name. Only thing even vaguely related would be DXM, the active ingredient in cough medicine, but that stuff is legal over the counter. Not saying I don't think he wouldn't pop prescription pills like a rock star, he's 1.a wrestler and 2.a Hardy, but this particular code sounds rather tenuous.